Lulu Vs. Alice Cooper

The CatThe Cat Where Blofeld is!Posts: 711MI6 Agent
I know a lot of you hate Lulu's The Man With The Golden Gun, and I admit it's not amongst the great ones. I wonder what you think about this song, which can be downloaded from

http://wwww.geocities.com/bsarlald/sgoldcooper.mp3
(It's very small sized!)

This is Alice Cooper's version of the song; he would have liked to sing the title theme of a Bond film and gave it a shot in the wake of Paul McCartney's LALD. However, the song wasn't accepted.

Do you think it would be better insted of Lulu's song?
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  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 26,416Chief of Staff
    You link doesn't work I'm afraid Cat, could you try again ?
    YNWA 97
  • The CatThe Cat Where Blofeld is!Posts: 711MI6 Agent
    Sorry, I misse out a g.

    The correct link is:

    http://wwww.geocities.com/bsarlald/sgoldgcooper.mp3
  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,882Chief of Staff
    I can't link to the new one, Cat. Anyway, I have heard Alice's song, and, as a fan of my fellow Arizonan (who's also a terrifically nice guy who gives a lot of money to Phoenix charities), I have to say I would have loved if his song had been used. Then again, the Bay City Rollers might have been an improvement over Lulu's shrieking roller disco song.
    Vox clamantis in deserto
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 26,416Chief of Staff
    Quoting Hardyboy:
    I can't link to the new one, Cat. Anyway, I have heard Alice's song,

    Me neither, and I haven't heard the song - could you please try again ?
    YNWA 97
  • The CatThe Cat Where Blofeld is!Posts: 711MI6 Agent
    Oh! I'm such an idiot cat. Theer are only three w-s. Let's try this for the final time.

    http://www.geocities.com/bsarlald/sgoldgcooper.mp3

    That should be correct.
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 26,416Chief of Staff
    Cheers Cat - that last one worked. A good track and quite different from Lulu's, it would have been good to see what the titles would have looked like over that.
    YNWA 97
  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,882Chief of Staff
    Quoting Sir Miles:
    A good track and quite different from Lulu's, it would have been good to see what the titles would have looked like over that.

    Ah, yes, what coulda been. Alice's song has a "shimmering" quality about it, so I could see the titles being made up of rotating mirrors (a la the funhouse), with glances of Bond and some golden-gun-clutching beauties stalking each other reflected in them. Hmmm. . .already it sounds better than the water-and-Asian-babes motif used in the film!
    Vox clamantis in deserto
  • AlexAlex The Eastern SeaboardPosts: 2,694MI6 Agent
    edited March 2004
    Quoting Hardyboy:
    Ah, yes, what coulda been. Alice's song has a "shimmering" quality about it, so I could see the titles being made up of rotating mirrors (a la the funhouse), with glances of Bond and some golden-gun-clutching beauties stalking each other reflected in them. Hmmm. . .already it sounds better than the water-and-Asian-babes motif used in the film!
    I have to say your title sequence sounds great!

    And as another fan of the Coopman, yeah it really would have been something if he had sang TMWTGG.
  • Dr ShatterhandDr Shatterhand Posts: 31MI6 Agent
    Personally I don't like either version. But I would be interested in hearing the original version that John Barry wrote which was slower in temple. Maurice Binder complained about this often during the mid 70s and early 80s because he would be in the middle of creating his nude credit montages and Barry would be asked to rewrite the score.

    Barry eventually would write approximately 6 different songs and let the studio heads decide.
  • delon64delon64 RiyadhPosts: 176MI6 Agent
    to be fair to barry and the tmwtgg score it was written very quickly in a matter of weeks and lacks his other works polish but is still an adequate piece of work imo...on a similar note has anyone heard blondies for your your eyes only theme song...it is available in the uk at least on the cheap best of cd...that i think was exclusive to virgin megastores...its a good eighties style tune and would have worked well
  • Stromberg1Stromberg1 Posts: 32MI6 Agent
    I know someone related to Alice Cooper.
  • yodboy007yodboy007 McMinn CountyPosts: 129MI6 Agent
    Mrs. Gloria Henderson I presume?
  • The CatThe Cat Where Blofeld is!Posts: 711MI6 Agent
    As the starter of the forum I'll add my comments as well!

    The Cooper song is great and could have substituted the Lulu song (and I'm using this term loosely). But I couldn't imagine the song to appear in any kind of score! Honestly, I like the TMWTGG theme, but not in the performance of Lulu, but in the orchestral incarnations.
  • JD_WestJD_West Posts: 2MI6 Agent
    I actually have many of Alice Coopers CD's including the "Muscle of Love" album which has that song. It's a good song
    but is doesn't have *nearly* the octane of Lulu's version with John Barry's horn section blasting in high gear. Sure it's a tad hockey in a sense, but that movie *is hockey* so it's a suitable match in my opinion. Lulu's voice just cuts through that tune like a knife. And also, there's nothing disco about that tune by any stretch of the imagination. I especially like the horn section blasting away at the end
    Da, Da, Da, Da, Da, Da, Da Da Da Da Da

    So there......... James Bond 007........................Jim
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  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    I'm also an Alice Cooper fan, and while i really dig that song, it just doesn't have that Bond feel to it. So I'm glad they went with Lulu.


    and having two rock songs in a row might have been weird.
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • Mr TwilightMr Twilight Posts: 2MI6 Agent
    Has anyone heard the version with Alice Cooper and Liza Minelli? I read about it somewhere...
  • JD_WestJD_West Posts: 2MI6 Agent
    Find "Muscle of Love" by Alice Cooper and you
    will get that tune. It's called "Teenage Lament 74". It's also on the greatest hits CD where they are dressed in 40's attire. Alice is sooooo Hollywood.

    ....................Jim
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  • Dr ShatterhandDr Shatterhand Posts: 31MI6 Agent
    Lulu said she had a sore throat when she recorded TMWTGG song. Perhaps that is why she sounds so strained.
  • goldfingergoldfinger Posts: 2MI6 Agent
    I heard on a documentary, that the titles were sped up because there was a change in the theme. So maybe it was supposed to be the theme and was changed during the process.
  • royalmileroyalmile Station CPosts: 115MI6 Agent
    I still can't get the link to hear Alice's version....
  • The CatThe Cat Where Blofeld is!Posts: 711MI6 Agent
  • Agent WadeAgent Wade Ann ArborPosts: 321MI6 Agent
    I hate that song. Blah. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I like the Lulu song better.
  • 00640064 Somewhere out west...Posts: 1,083MI6 Agent
    Wow, thanks for the link cat....i happen to like this theme much more than the one tha LuLu did, this is a great improvement... :)
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly Liverpool, UKPosts: 1,048MI6 Agent
    Lulu vs Alice Cooper - now there's a wrestling match I'd love to see. My money's on the Scot.

    I'd go with Lulu, every time. Alice's version doesn't have its bombast, its complete OTTness; though I never thought I'd say this about an Alice Cooper track, it's too laid back...
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  • steelydan3steelydan3 Posts: 65MI6 Agent
    Lulu vs Alice Cooper - now there's a wrestling match I'd love to see. My money's on the Scot.

    I'd go with Lulu, every time. Alice's version doesn't have its bombast, its complete OTTness; though I never thought I'd say this about an Alice Cooper track, it's too laid back...

    Yeah, I totally agree with you jetset, it's a bit restrained by the great man. I expect to be a bit more, er, rocking? :) However, I don't mind it, it's good. Have to give it another listen when I get the chance. Not as good as the tracks we know Mr Cooper for!
  • Hunter HarryHunter Harry Posts: 21MI6 Agent
    Lulu's version is much better.
  • Pierce_BrosnanPierce_Brosnan Posts: 329MI6 Agent
    Lulu's is very much better! Cooper's does not sound bondian (or for that matter, LISTENABLE!)
  • arthur pringlearthur pringle SpacePosts: 366MI6 Agent
    I'm sure that isn't the best example of Alice Cooper but it sounds like a bit of a racket to me. I'm glad they hired Lulu.
  • JennyFlexFanJennyFlexFan Posts: 1,497MI6 Agent
    This song is way better than Lulu's piece of tripe (though the orchestral version of it is very pretty to listen to). This admittedly would be hard to score though, only a few bits would work.
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    edited August 2006
    I may be in a minority here but I love Lulu's rendition of TMWTGG. It's one of my four favourite Bond theme songs (the others being GF, LALD and Nobody Does it better.) I also don't particularly love Cooper's rendition (or his music in general) so I am certainly relieved that the producers stuck with Lulu.
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
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