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I marvel at the optimistic view that this vehicle is "still out there". You can rest assured that it was parted out, burned or dropped in a swamp.

The DB5 was a victim of greed, like the Baby Lindbergh, and those who stole it could have cared less if it was a famous Bond car, or if it was a Chevy belonging to Mr. Jones. In fact Mr. Jones Chevy, because it was anyomymus, stands only a slightly better chance of being parted out rather than simply destroyed.

Those who stole this car don't want to be caught!

If I wanted a "piece" of this car, I'd look for one of those side indicators on ebay. ajb007/wink

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emtiem wrote:

Yeah, it was the prototype DB5, originally maroon in colour and featured in many DB5 roadtests (and had also appeared in The Saint- so Roger got it first! ajb007/smile ) and easy to spot as it was the only DB5 to feature side repeaters on the wings- if you look in the film Bond's car is constantly losing and gaining these side indicators.

I've not seen the episode (maybe in the 60s but not recently) in which th DB5 appears, but I have seen a clip of it, and it's Sir Anthony Quayle driving it, not Sir Roger.

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to re cap ..

the stolen DB5 was taken from an aircraft hanger in Florida .. where it was in storage..

it has been said that thiefs ... broke through a security gate with a truck .. wrapped chains around the front axle and chasis of the car and draggged it out... the hanger... onto a waiting cargo plane.. possibly just big enough to carry a single vehicle....

there was evidence of rubber markings and skidding on the hanger floor..

other reports claim it was pushed out by hand .. or hot-wired... etc

now there must have been a few involved with the crime.... no one or 2 men could do all the breaking in .. cutting the alarms in teh hanger and pulling the car out and flying the plane etc .... it was a planned job!

maybe Michael Caine was involved... Only supossed to pull the Bloody Car out!  ajb007/lol

there was also reported failed attempts to steal the car a feew nights before etc etc .... I think this was to make the story look good..

there is too much suspect behaviour and dispute between the cars owner at the time and the guy who publicised teh car and got it publicity and made money from it on tours and exhibitions... the 2 guys were family at one point etc ...

anyway ..

the car could not have gone anywhere but onto a plane ....   and this could explain the other.. suspicions that it was dumped out in the ocean...

the whole idea of teh car being broken down.. seems too risky as there ewas a hunt on for it... at the time surely... and breaking down such a famous car would surely arise suspicion...

this is why it may have been a planned theift by a wealthy individual for there own keep.... and collection

or it was simply a planned job to destroy the car for an insurance payout ?


why hasn't that pretend Yokel.. Justin Lee Colins.. done a documentary "bring back Bonds DB5" God knows hes done everything else such as crap about the A-Team... and other wastes of time .. petrol and oxygen.. maybe time to go on the hunt for the DB5...something usefull and interesting for a change.... but i think this is more than he could handle... stick to Bad 80's ... mind rumming shows such as the Gimp Team and crap like fame .. etc

I think Louis Theroux would be the very man to track it down or get to the truth of the matter.. I could just picture him .. interviewing all the oners of the originals and the guy who owned the car before the big insurance payout... ajb007/lol that would be fantastic

if this car was dropped in the ocean .. I am sure it would have been found by now.. surely...

the whole crime and theft of the car seems to me as if .. hardly any effort was made to recover the car .. ? no big worldwide hunt etc

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lol

right, IMO, the db5 is gone. it ain't in someone's collection, its too hot to move on and why would someone steal a car they can't show, drive, talk about or even mention to anyone?

its in bits, its more than likely sold on as parts and there won't be anything left of it.

i agree with the insurance scam idea, and as much as it pains me to say it, that car is no longer in one piece.

crying shame, but some people will do anything for money.

no-one will find out for sure, or until someone confesses in a will or something lol, but i don't think it'll ever be found.

the thing with stripping for parts is that parts can't be traced. aston parts are always easily shifted due to demand, so who's not to say someone set up a few ebay accounts and shifted the parts that way?

i'm afraid at the end of it, theres no big X marking the spot, and that gorgeous car is gone.

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Insurance Job ! is deffinetly the most obvious explanation and most realistic.

It pains me that it was not just auctioned off..

someone involved with the theft will talk eventually .. I have a good feeling about that. and then the search will be back on..

If the car was dropped at sea.. surely some shark hunters or marine biolgysts would have said at some point .. thats a bit odd! theres a jelly fish sitting on the Bonnet of that DB5 beside that rock down there... ajb007/lol

Even if it was dropped from the cargo plane.. the height ... and the impact hitting the water .. would have seriously damaged the aluminum body work .. and from 1997 until .. present.. the cars interior will be rotted..

but some closure would be nice..

I am going with insurance Job .... and the car was dumped as one piece...

Myabe because I love the car and the DB5 and the whole Bond thing.. is why I refuse to beleive its gone forever... have to have a little faith sometimes... even when the truth is obvious.... ajb007/lol just being nieve I know .. I know...

Unless a fishing trawller .. rescued the car from the water .. dragged it back to the shore .. and has it in an old rusty cargo container.... on the Florida coast

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.... hmmmm after reading all this, I think, that I should not have purchased these revolving numberplates on ebay 3 years ago....

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One thing that puzzles me also with regards to the stolen original DB5 is these parts that were suposedly from it.... I know these parts were fake replicas

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur … N%26um%3D1

in the Cannonball Run i KNOW THAT THE ORIGINAL DB5 Prototype gadget car was used for light film work and when Roger moore and the girls are standing beside it and insert shots of the car ,....

and for high speed car chasing and stunts a DB4 GT was used .. it was pretty rough looking and baddly sprayed... and lumpy .. and the air intake on the bonet was done very badly...

so the last know bit of film work for teh original DB5 was indeed the Cannonball Run with Roger Moore.... and the poorly replicated gadget buttons and devices can bee seen .. on film...

I did enjoy the cannonball run film and Roger Moore was a highlight.. funny stuff.... just a bit of fun .. Dont hold it against old ROGER.... and he did look very cool in the DB5 ... so at least we can all say every single Bond has drove and Aston ... WELL EVERYONE HAS DROVE A db5 ... APART FROM timothy dalton.. LAZENBY drove a DB5 with gadgets in the return of the man from uncle.... desparate times for old George..... Roger looked and was cool in the DB5. the return of the man from uncle.. was a waste of a petrol time money .. and film

another thing that puzzles me .. is that I have a newpaper clipping showing / stating that the original gear stick top with the little red button sold at auction for £40,000 or something like that .. how did that come about .. was that from the actual original prototype DB5 or from one of the promotional cars etc ....

I think a follow up book to Dave Worrall's first book is long over due... full of conspricies and speculation.. and opinions... and the continuation of the story....

I am going to make a dedication mimorial to the original DB5 on my website soon... i am hopefully going to have access to an original DB5 at a local classic car garage close to where I live.. for photographing... etc

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I love the way it handles, but 60's British engineering means it over heats a lot when I thrash it down country lanes. It was difficult to steal, and even harder to transport back to England, but well worth it. And now it's mine! ALL MINE! HAH! HAH! The revolving numberplates are useful and so are the oil-slikers and machine guns, but the chariot style shredders were irripairably damaged on some flousy's Mustang...

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thesecretagent wrote:

I love the way it handles, but 60's British engineering means it over heats a lot when I thrash it down country lanes. It was difficult to steal, and even harder to transport back to England, but well worth it. And now it's mine! ALL MINE! HAH! HAH! The revolving numberplates are useful and so are the oil-slikers and machine guns, but the chariot style shredders were irripairably damaged on some flousy's Mustang...

damn...that confounds my theory that it was taken by alien collectors, kept alongside a lunar rover and the special version of the bmw x5 built for exploring mars...

human technology at it's best....

nanu nanu....

on the knob (gearstick) i was told by aston martin veterans that it was taken off one of the show cars when aston stripped them on their return, and lived  on the desk of an aston office worker (or two) for decades......

i was staggered by the hammer price (plus commissions, taxes and harrods wrapping paper) but hey, imagine the fun u can have fondling it's cap, flipping it up to reveal the big reg button....one press and you're freed from the incessant requests to slow down from the misses......

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for fear of stawberry jam, and the lack of a sunroof, its best i don't install any 'little red button's. ajb007/amazed

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any new thoughts on this ..

Why hasnt the car been found ?

why hasnt anyone spoke out or broke there silence ?

why hasnt parts of the car been found or sold on ?

why hasnt any scuba teams searched the the Forida coast line ?

why has a car of this value just vaniashed..

surely if it was an insurance job ,, the owner would have made more money selling it on at auction and keeping it as the ORIGINAL car, rather than settling for an insurance payout ?

i think the whole thing would make for a fantastic conspiricy movie

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wow interestingly enough i just watched the little 10 minute extra featurette of the DB5 on the goldfinger blu-ray. i would hate to be the guy that stole it never actualy getting to drive it or really in a sense own it, probably the second most beutiful car ever manufactured right under bonds own battle ship grey  bentley with amherst viller supercharger. ajb007/bond

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thesecretagent wrote:

I love the way it handles, but 60's British engineering means it over heats a lot when I thrash it down country lanes. It was difficult to steal, and even harder to transport back to England, but well worth it. And now it's mine! ALL MINE! HAH! HAH! The revolving numberplates are useful and so are the oil-slikers and machine guns, but the chariot style shredders were irripairably damaged on some flousy's Mustang...

Nonsense! I've got it! Problem is, my hooves can't reach the pedals.

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Wasted in your day job Nap... ajb007/lol

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I know the location of the car..My garage and no you can't have it back!

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As much as pains me to write this, I too feel that that BMT 216A is just a pile of parts now. 10 years after the theft and not one sign of it. I am pretty sure that the persons responsible for stealing it had planed to cut it up, as it would near impossible to sell or put in a private collection.  Unless the thieves switched the license plates and repainted the car after stealing it, to make it look like a regular DB5. I have seen quite a few pictures of DB5's in other colors thought the sliver color was defiantly the most poplar following Goldfinger's release.

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Just prior to the actual theft, an attempt had been made to steal the car in another location. On the Monday night just prior to the theft, the storage container in which the Aston Martin DB5 had been stored at Delray Beach (for a prior promotion) had been broken into, but the car was already in Boca. That means that this was definitely a well-funded and planned event. Given that this was the second attempt within a week at two separate locations, we're talking about a specific plan to steal THIS car for a private interest. I agree with those who say the car is intact, but in a private collection. This is akin to the "Gone in 60 Seconds" operations. You pay enough money, you can get someone to steal the car.  They'll own it until they die (and maybe thereafter the family will keep it). It is possible the vehicle shipped overseas, where it would be easy to hide in a private collection in, say, the Middle East or China.

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Finally someone who truly sees the side of why it
could still be intact,

I have to admit I am 50 / 50 on the whole thing the part
of me that thinks the car is still alive some where in the
world is probably the part that just loves the original Bond
car so much, and want it to still be out there,

there is lots of reasons for and against it still existing,

ok if it was dropped from a plane into the sea surely some
bits of it would have surfaced by now or washed up on the
shores, also there would have been an atempt to go down
and see it out in the ocean if there was solid fact that it was
out there in a general area, maybe if there is enough history
and cult following for the search and the conspiricy  it will be
like the raising of the titanic at some point ajb007/lol

I honestly dont think it was dropped at sea, why would some
one go to the trouble of getting it up into the air in a plane ok,
after having a failed atempt to steal it the ( week before as
number 11 stated ) were talking proffesional auto theft here
not some young guys looking for something to joy ride,
we need to remember what this car was and is the history
of it what its worth, it was a spacific target car for what ever reason,

now if you were wanting to steal a DB5 or vintage car for selling off
the spear parts I could point you in the location of about 4 DB5's
around my general location where i live that are not that well hidden
or locked up etc, NOW THAT I WOULD NOT DO! but i am trying to make
the point of it being less risk for the same spare parts so it was THE
BOND car that was wanted and not A DB5 FOR BREAKING !

NOW if you had the kind of money lying around that could pay Nicolas
Cage and his crew from ''Gone in 60 SECONDS'' to steal wouldnt you be
better just offering the owner of the car a lump sum of money for it and
own it legaly ?

if the car was still in pristine condition etc I would bet it was in
some oil sheik's privite underground marble personal car collection,
museum, under his gold plated palace. ok if you had the kind of
money to pay a team of experts to steal the car for you surely
paying off some coast guard authorities and border air contol
people to look the other way, while the cargo plane was flying
overhead carrying the Bond DB5, wouldnt be too difficult?

its a debate that can and will go on until somthing of the car is found,

Heres another theory of mines,

What if the car, the ORIGINAL car had the chasis number renewed and
replaced new documents etc / old doccuments taken from another DB5
of the same era of manufacture, the plain other DB5 was then destroyed,
and the ORIGINAL with new ID now registered as a standard road DB5 was
then SUPOSEDLY converted to feature replica Bond gadgets etc and passed
off as a replica although it was actualy the original ?

that way it could be in the public eye and as long as it was on display as
a replica no authorities would question it if it had the documentation etc
of the BROKEN UP NEW ID DB5 etc with it that complied with it,

A NEW CHAPTER BEGINS ajb007/lol

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