Do you think Craig's Defiance director could do Bond 23?

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  • Rick RobertsRick Roberts Posts: 536MI6 Agent
    I'm a huge Ed Zwick fan. Glory, Last Samurai, and Blood Diamond are some of my favorite films, and Defiance was good as well. I just don't really see him as a Bond director. Zwick's style is more befitting of sweeping epics, not the epsionage/action/suspense of Bond.

    I think he could pull it off if the script interested him.
  • Rick RobertsRick Roberts Posts: 536MI6 Agent
    Dan Same wrote:
    The only reason why The Rock watchable was because Sean Connery and that's it. Bay just blows crap up.
    I don't agree. I think The Rock was a brilliant film all around, and not because of Connery. Plus, even if he was a director who just 'bows crap up' that's still alot better than directors of 'torture porn' films. Either way, I don't think he deserves the attacks that he receives on a daily basis.

    I really don't think one is better then other. Anyway, Mr. Explosion will probably think Bond is too boring anyway so he'll never be interested. :))
  • LexiLexi LondonPosts: 3,000MI6 Agent
    In a word, Yes, I think he could direct a Bond movie. I thought Defiance was really well crafted, and although slightly slow at the beginning, you soon got caught up in the emotion and drama of the sheer integrity and persistence of these people who were defiantly resisting the Nazi's.

    I haven't seen any of his other movies, but blood diamond is on my list, and I'm really keen to see it.

    However, as I think Bond needs to get back to the action, and more traditional style (as has been hinted at by Craig et al ) - the next Bond film might not be the best vessel for him, but perhaps in the one after that.....
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  • John DrakeJohn Drake On assignmentPosts: 2,564MI6 Agent
    Here's my choices for Bond 23:

    1. Kathryn Bigelow
    2. Ed Zwick
    3. Werner Herzog
    4. Neil Jordan
    5. Ridley Scott
    6. Steven Soderbergh

    That's it for now.

    Bigelow would be perfect. Zwick is a bore, with the exception of producing the greatest teen TV drama ever, My So Called Life, Herzog's best work since the 70's has been in documentary form, Jordan is my all-time favourite film director, but unless you want Craig falling in love with a trannie or a werewolf is not going to get the call. Ridley has apparently agreed to do another Alien movie which should keep him busy, while Soderbergh is more interesting when making low-budget films than studio movies. Though I would happily pay a small fortune to see the leading lady of his last movie, The Girlfriend Experience, play a Bond girl.
  • Rick RobertsRick Roberts Posts: 536MI6 Agent
    edited August 2009
    John Drake wrote:
    Here's my choices for Bond 23:

    1. Kathryn Bigelow
    2. Ed Zwick
    3. Werner Herzog
    4. Neil Jordan
    5. Ridley Scott
    6. Steven Soderbergh

    That's it for now.

    Bigelow would be perfect. Zwick is a bore, with the exception of producing the greatest teen TV drama ever, My So Called Life, Herzog's best work since the 70's has been in documentary form, Jordan is my all-time favourite film director, but unless you want Craig falling in love with a trannie or a werewolf is not going to get the call. Ridley has apparently agreed to do another Alien movie which should keep him busy, while Soderbergh is more interesting when making low-budget films than studio movies. Though I would happily pay a small fortune to see the leading lady of his last movie, The Girlfriend Experience, play a Bond girl.

    God I hope you are joking, My So Called Life ? :s

    Ed Zwick is anything but boring, Defiance was a hell of a film and Glory is one of the greatest war films ever made. I disagree with you about Herzog immensely, Red Dawn was a great film. Jordan is alot more versatile then that, he convinced me with THE BRAVE ONE. Yes Ridley Scott is busy with Robin Hood right now, IDK if the Alien prequel is happening in the immidiate future. And as for Soderbergh, the Oceans films, which I am not a huge fan of, have that Bond flavor of the 60's I think he could capture.
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,990Quartermasters
    They could do a hell of a lot worse than Ed Zwick, IMO...but I'd be surprised if he were interested in something like Bond; doesn't seem his style. Bigelow seems an excellent choice. I don't think either of the Scott brothers---Ridley or Tony, each of which could do an excellent job---would allow Eon's yolk to be placed round their necks...without a piece of the back end.
    Neil Jordan is an interesting idea...

    I'll be surprised if Eon goes for second non-British (or extended Commonwealth) director in a row...but they're not averse to surprising these days.
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  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    John Drake wrote:
    Bigelow would be perfect. Zwick is a bore, with the exception of producing the greatest teen TV drama ever, My So Called Life, Herzog's best work since the 70's has been in documentary form, Jordan is my all-time favourite film director, but unless you want Craig falling in love with a trannie or a werewolf is not going to get the call. Ridley has apparently agreed to do another Alien movie which should keep him busy, while Soderbergh is more interesting when making low-budget films than studio movies. Though I would happily pay a small fortune to see the leading lady of his last movie, The Girlfriend Experience, play a Bond girl.
    It's funny, JD, we usually disagree with each other, but on this occasion I pretty much agree with you. :D That is to say, I agree that Bigelow would be superb; Zwick is a bore (the only films of his that I like are for reasons other than his self-important direction); I agree that Herzog's best work since the 70's has been in documentaries (certainly since Fitzcarraldo in 1982); I agree that Jordan is a magnificent director (has he ever directed a bad film? :o) but, as you said, would almost certainly bring an unusual take to it (although, as shown by The End of the Affair, he can do straight); and I also agree that the lead of The Girlfriend Experience would make a great Bond girl. The only thing I would disagree with is that Soderbergh is more interesting when making low-budget films than studio movies, if only because I think he has made terrific and disappointing films of both kinds.
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  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    I don't think either of the Scott brothers---Ridley or Tony, each of which could do an excellent job---would allow Eon's yolk to be placed round their necks...without a piece of the back end.
    Neil Jordan is an interesting idea...

    I'll be surprised if Eon goes for second non-British (or extended Commonwealth) director in a row...but they're not averse to surprising these days.
    I'm not a fan of star directors taking on Bond, but if it were to happen, I would gladly settle for one of the Scott brothers; particularly Ridley, one of my all-time favourite directors and IMO one of the most inventive directors of all time. :D
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • John DrakeJohn Drake On assignmentPosts: 2,564MI6 Agent
    Dan Same wrote:
    I agree that Jordan is a magnificent director (has he ever directed a bad film? .

    Yes, three of them. High Spirits, We're No Angels and The Good Thief/
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    John Drake wrote:
    Dan Same wrote:
    I agree that Jordan is a magnificent director (has he ever directed a bad film? .

    Yes, three of them. High Spirits, We're No Angels and The Good Thief/
    My apologies. Although from where I'm standing, he only directed one bad film; We're No Angels (my all-time favourite actor in De Niro plus one of the all-time greats in Sean Penn, and it still sucked. :#) I haven't seen High Spirits and I loved The Good Thief.
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • Rick RobertsRick Roberts Posts: 536MI6 Agent
    They could do a hell of a lot worse than Ed Zwick, IMO...but I'd be surprised if he were interested in something like Bond; doesn't seem his style. Bigelow seems an excellent choice. I don't think either of the Scott brothers---Ridley or Tony, each of which could do an excellent job---would allow Eon's yolk to be placed round their necks...without a piece of the back end.
    Neil Jordan is an interesting idea...

    I'll be surprised if Eon goes for second non-British (or extended Commonwealth) director in a row...but they're not averse to surprising these days.

    Yeah Ridley Scott is more of a dreamer suggestion. EON wants someone who knows they could put their thumbs under. Too bad since I think Scott has done some really great films in the past ten years.
  • John DrakeJohn Drake On assignmentPosts: 2,564MI6 Agent
    God I hope you are joking, My So Called Life ? :s

    Deadly serious. Masterpiece. One of the truly great TV shows.
    I disagree with you about Herzog immensely, Red Dawn was a great film.

    Red Dawn was anti-Soviet propoganda directed by John Milius, who might have made a great Bond film back in the 80's. Rescue Dawn was a Chuck Norris version of Herzog's documentary Little Dieter Yearns to Fly starring the charmless Christian Bale. Herzog hasn't made a decent narrative film since his Nosferatu remake 30 years ago. Much as I love Neil Jordan, and I love him more than any other film director, Bond wouldn't suit him, unless he could have 007 fall for a tranny, or a ghost, or a prostitute. His entire ouvre is based around people not getting what they want. But Soderbergh would be a superior choice to any director in recent years. And if he could cast Sasha Grey opposite Daniel Craig I would forgive him his boring Che Guevera movies.
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    John Drake wrote:
    Herzog hasn't made a decent narrative film since his Nosferatu remake 30 years ago
    What about Fitzcarraldo? :D
    John Drake wrote:
    Much as I love Neil Jordan, and I love him more than any other film director, Bond wouldn't suit him, unless he could have 007 fall for a tranny, or a ghost, or a prostitute. His entire ouvre is based around people not getting what they want.
    That's not entirely true. What about (the delightful) Breakfast on Pluto? :v
    John Drake wrote:
    But Soderbergh would be a superior choice to any director in recent years. And if he could cast Sasha Grey opposite Daniel Craig I would forgive him his boring Che Guevera movies.
    When you made the comment about preferring his independent stuff, I immediately thought of Che, which was subjected to one of your classic reviews. :))

    I have to say though, I agree about Soderbergh being a great choice. Although I doubt he would do it, as Ocean's 11 was His James Bond.
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • Rick RobertsRick Roberts Posts: 536MI6 Agent
    edited August 2009
    John Drake wrote:
    Deadly serious. Masterpiece. One of the truly great TV shows.

    Sorry but I find that a joke. No TV teen drama is worthy of a "great" title.
    Red Dawn was anti-Soviet propoganda directed by John Milius, who might have made a great Bond film back in the 80's. Rescue Dawn was a Chuck Norris version of Herzog's documentary Little Dieter Yearns to Fly starring the charmless Christian Bale.

    Sorry I meant Rescue.

    Rescue Dawn was a hell of a good action film. I didn't see any cornball 80's action or dialogue like the average Norris film. I honestly don't know how you can see an equivilent to a film of that sort in this other then the location of Vietnam. Bale or no protagonist in the film just bursted out with a machine gun, kicking ass and taking numbers, those POWs broke free using their brains and not brawn.
    Much as I love Neil Jordan, and I love him more than any other film director, Bond wouldn't suit him, unless he could have 007 fall for a tranny, or a ghost, or a prostitute. His entire ouvre is based around people not getting what they want.

    That's an extremely broad spectrum. Anyway a film like THE BRAVE ONE was about vengence and dealing with it, the same thing QUANTUM OF SOLACE was. Though BRAVE ONE had a very dissappointing ending.
  • John DrakeJohn Drake On assignmentPosts: 2,564MI6 Agent
    Sorry. Little Dieter Needs to Fly. I always get that title wrong.
  • EDOG51EDOG51 EnglandPosts: 29MI6 Agent
    Martin Campbell for me hands down, look at the success of his 2 previous movies Goldeneye & CR. Both have that true 'Bond feel' and go down as classics for me. What ever the cost, GET HIM IN FOR 23!
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    EDOG51 wrote:
    Martin Campbell for me hands down, look at the success of his 2 previous movies Goldeneye & CR. Both have that true 'Bond feel' and go down as classics for me. What ever the cost, GET HIM IN FOR 23!
    I loved GE, didn't love CR, ;) but you raise an interesting question; what about previous directors? Well, IMO Michael Apted should be rehired. I was extremely impressed with TWINE (yes, it had its flaws), and I was quite disappointed that he wasn't hired to direct DAD. I think he's a fantastic director and I think he would be perfect for Bond 23. :D
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • PPK 7.65mmPPK 7.65mm Saratoga Springs NY USAPosts: 1,230MI6 Agent
    I understand that Christopher Nolan (Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, Momento,) is a Bond fan. I was pretty impressed with his work on the Batman films and he seems to know what works on film and what does not based on some of the interviews I have read. If the next Batman film held off long enough maybe he direct Bond 23.
  • Rick RobertsRick Roberts Posts: 536MI6 Agent
    Campbell sure did surpass himself in CR and did the best direction of any Bond film. However, I think it's best someone else should take the limelight.
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