Walther PPK/S 9mm Short (Page 1 of 5)

It's a good question, and I certainly don't have an answer, but I'm glad he's using a PPK.  I suppose I'm a bit old fashioned, or a traditionalist in that regard.  I do like that he's being formally issued with one in SF, which certainly is a callback to DN.  These are the kinds of anniversay tidbits that longtime Bond fans can enjoy.

My own PPK is a .380.  Nice snappy action...and if the silvertip hollowpoints don't drop their target...call a priest    I did fire the 7.65mm once, and it didn't buck quite as much, which makes a good grouping easier, but then that's all about practice.  I've fired hundreds of .380 rounds, and maybe three clips of the smaller round, so my opinion is skewed to my own experience.

I'm gonna take a stab at this, donk will probably have a chuckle and correct me but here goes;

From a practical point of view;

The original ppk, in 7.65mm is quite a small gun, easy to conceal but the 7.65mm is now becoming somewhat lesser used in firearm design (so I'm told) and most handguns these days are commonly chambered in 9mm for the stopping power. Also, if you're travelling the globe, the common 9mm ammo might be easier to acquire in places more remote? Making the 9mm a more practical calibre.

These days, most handguns have a larger capacity of rounds, 18 here, 21 there. By comparison, the 7+1 of the ppk is quite small. I guess the ppk/s allows a slightly more feasible option? But then you also have the grip;

DC's mitt I would imagine could be quite big for the ppk. I find the ppk a good size in my palm, but I have ridiculously small hands. Maybe the ppk/s was chosen to accommodate DC's hand a bit better? The extra 10mm in height might make all the difference between the gun feeling too tight (resulting in slide bite for poor DC) and a comfy grip he can be confident with?

Then there's this palm reader gizmo. The S&W ppk/s has quite an extended 'beaver tail' to avoid your hand getting hit by the slide (the afore mentioned slide bite issue). But not only does the beaver tail help here, but also it's the only place you can put in them daft LED's etc. the original Ppk's frame has virtually no spare space to instal anything extra like the fake palm reader gizmo, the ppk/s however, with it's beaver tail does.

Therefore, I'd put money in the gun used being a slightly modified S&W ppk/s.

Oh and more on the grips soon....   

MG

The optical palm reader is cool....very Bond. Nice to see a gadget in a Bond film again.

Yeah, I remember in FYEO, the grip extension on his PPK was absent and it only had a flat magazine plate.

I too agree that the larger size of the PPK/S would work better in the hands of a muscle-bound Bond like Craig, and it allows for the palm reader to be installed.

But looking at the size of the PPK/S once the palm reader is on there, it is now almost comparable in size to the Walther P5.  It actually also resembles the size of the short-lived 9x18mm (or 9mm police) Walther PP Super.

With the gun at such a bulky size now, it almost seems redundant to use the smaller 9x17mm (or 9mm short) PPK/S.  With technology at it's present rate in the Bond movies (remember the adaptive camouflage Vanquish in DAD), surely Q-branch could create a smaller palm reader about the size of a pair of Crimson Trace lasergrips for Bond's gun.

It's going to be a s&w ppk/s they're the only ones making the ppk variants now, walther no longer manufacture them. I think they switched to ppk/s simply to have room to use the optic scanner modification.

In the fictional/fantasy world of James Bond, "Q" has perfected the design of the optical palm reader and battery life is no longer a concern as a new micro battery has been developed based upon the technology used in heart pacemaker batteries which last for years.

Excuse me? What did you say? Clearly you are delusional, man. 'Just a film'!! Whatever next. Phfft.

What an utterly rubbish gun.  Let's take one of the finest sleekest designed pistols in history and slap some great lumpy chunky grips on.  Yay!!! or not.  Hurrah.

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Oi, my face ain't old.  Well at least not as old as a sausage sucking gentleman I could refer to.

Give him a PPS for godsake.  All this sentimaental crud is like an anchor to the character and he doesn't need it.  This Bond is bang up to date, why lumber him with an old gun.  Even worse, why lumber him with a very nice old gun and ruin it by adding great ugly greeblies.  It's horrible aesthetically and utterly dumb tactically.  So there.

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About time you kept it in your trousers Singe 

Welcome back ASP, very good to see you 

Oh, great!
A new movie is coming up and all the morons are returning to AJB!
Who's next, Dell Deaton?

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