I'm one of those who rate Dalton very highly {[] from reading the Books
I feel, He nailed it. There are many different kinds of Bond fans, some
Have no interest in the books, although I do feel ( trying not to sound too
Pompous ) by not reading the books, you are missing out on the original
Source material, which every actor who has played Bond has delved into
To work on their interpretation of 007. so basically if the actors playing
Bond feel it's important to read the books, to understand , Bond the man.
Then perhaps we as fans to help understand our hero should at least read
A few. )
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
I am interested in reading the books. I just prefer to watch the films first. Films are easier to complete and I can finish them all before Bond 24 comes out.
I'm young. I'll have my whole life to read the books.
The sooner that you are reading the books, the sooner you can dive deep into a very special world.
Reading the books or watching the remaining movies (exception TLD and LTK) are not a burden, they are a pleasure - so why wait?
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I am interested in reading the books. I just prefer to watch the films first. Films are easier to complete and I can finish them all before Bond 24 comes out.
I'm young. I'll have my whole life to read the books.
Seriously, read the books. You will watch the films in a different way
1. For Your Eyes Only 2. The Living Daylights 3 From Russia with Love 4. Casino Royale 5. OHMSS 6. Skyfall
I am interested in reading the books. I just prefer to watch the films first. Films are easier to complete and I can finish them all before Bond 24 comes out.
I'm young. I'll have my whole life to read the books.
Like everyone else has said, read the Books because you will not regret doing so -{
1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
After the huge success of MR, Broccoli and Moore entered a game of brinksmanship. Moore publicly stated he did not want to play Bond again, Broccoli let it be known that he was testing other actors. Meanwhile, agents were negotiating. Eventually terms were agreed.
Moore knew he could get better terms if he held out (the huge profits from MR left him in a position of strength). Broccoli wanted to get the best deal he could.
And that is why new actors were auditioned for FYEO.
Which means that the only time Roger Moore was cast as Bond from the get go in the 80s was FYEO.
In both OP and AVTAK other candidates were seriously considered, and any minute the negotiations with Moore could have failed. Furthermore, had Connery not starred in NSNA in 83, IMHO they would have cast a new Bond for OP.
If I remember correctly, there was no real doubt about the main actor for OP and AVTAK.
Cubby wanted Moore to continue - Moore had fun negotiating a good deal and continue ripping Cubby off with Backgammon - everything else was just haggling for the price.
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Has to be remembered in the early 1980, cool was The Clash, the Pistols, the Jam and Bowie. Action stars were Harrison Ford and Stallone.
Meanwhile, James Bond movies were made by old men, principally an elderly producer who wouldn't have dreamed of casting Daniel Craig, and a leading actor who couldn't raise a cent at the box office in his own films (sound familiar?) but who liked to live the lifestyle of a international movie star.
So a "comfortable, can't be arsed" status quo existed. And so some very ordinary Bond films followed. But the old gents did indeed get wealthier and fatter.
After the huge success of MR, Broccoli and Moore entered a game of brinksmanship. Moore publicly stated he did not want to play Bond again, Broccoli let it be known that he was testing other actors. Meanwhile, agents were negotiating. Eventually terms were agreed.
Moore knew he could get better terms if he held out (the huge profits from MR left him in a position of strength). Broccoli wanted to get the best deal he could.
And that is why new actors were auditioned for FYEO.
Which means that the only time Roger Moore was cast as Bond from the get go in the 80s was FYEO.
No, it means that your claim in post 21 re Moore's age causing other actors to be tested is incorrect.
I am interested in reading the books. I just prefer to watch the films first. Films are easier to complete and I can finish them all before Bond 24 comes out.
I'm young. I'll have my whole life to read the books.
Like everyone else has said, read the Books because you will not regret doing so -{
Or listen to the audiobooks. Another great way to discover the Fleming novels.
Meanwhile, James Bond movies were made by old men, principally an elderly producer who wouldn't have dreamed of casting Daniel Craig, and a leading actor who couldn't raise a cent at the box office in his own films (sound familiar?) but who liked to live the lifestyle of a international movie star.
So a "comfortable, can't be arsed" status quo existed. And so some very ordinary Bond films followed. But the old gents did indeed get wealthier and fatter.
Sorry, but you could not be any wronger!
After AVTAK the same "old men" decided to go with a much younger Tim Dalton whom some (not me) consider having brought a much harder tone to the movies.
As you criticize Moore not "having made a cent" in his other movies, this has been the same for Connery until "the name of the rose" in 1986.
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Bond in the early 1980 was out of date compared with EVERYTHING. -{
Not the best time to tell you late teenage mates you were a fan...
rubbish!
Until "First Blood" action movies had to be big and funny - it was kind of the formula back then - and even "Raiders" followed that formula.
I remember FYEO being one of the first action movies with a much more serious approach - that was kind of new and exciting back then (1981).
And even after "First Blood" Bonds have been highly successful until AVTAK which fell short with fans and casual audiences. But it still made good money on the box office.
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Bond in the early 1980 was out of date compared with EVERYTHING. -{
Not the best time to tell you late teenage mates you were a fan...
rubbish!
Until "First Blood" action movies had to be big and funny - it was kind of the formula back then - and even "Raiders" followed that formula.
I remember FYEO being one of the first action movies with a much more serious approach - that was kind of new and exciting back then (1981).
And even after "First Blood" Bonds have been highly successful until AVTAK which fell short with fans and casual audiences. But it still made good money on the box office.
Obviously, you and I, in our different worlds, had different ideas of what was "new and exciting" back in 1981.
Around these parts, Rambo was cool. Rog-Bond wasn't. A hero with a face dyed ginger and liver spots? Though I've never disputed he made Cubby a few bob anywhere, have I?
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I feel, He nailed it.
Have no interest in the books, although I do feel ( trying not to sound too
Pompous ) by not reading the books, you are missing out on the original
Source material, which every actor who has played Bond has delved into
To work on their interpretation of 007.
Bond feel it's important to read the books, to understand , Bond the man.
Then perhaps we as fans to help understand our hero should at least read
A few.
and don't forget the casual audiences.... 8-)
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I agree, watch the Dalton Bonds WITH GLASSES and sober and you will understand why the sane fans put Dalton in the muddy bottom of the bucket
And you'll easily manage to avoid those irrelevant blinds who still rate him high
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Full of Bond fans !
I'm young. I'll have my whole life to read the books.
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The sooner that you are reading the books, the sooner you can dive deep into a very special world.
Reading the books or watching the remaining movies (exception TLD and LTK) are not a burden, they are a pleasure - so why wait?
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Seriously, read the books. You will watch the films in a different way
Like everyone else has said, read the Books because you will not regret doing so -{
Which means that the only time Roger Moore was cast as Bond from the get go in the 80s was FYEO.
In both OP and AVTAK other candidates were seriously considered, and any minute the negotiations with Moore could have failed. Furthermore, had Connery not starred in NSNA in 83, IMHO they would have cast a new Bond for OP.
Cubby wanted Moore to continue - Moore had fun negotiating a good deal and continue ripping Cubby off with Backgammon - everything else was just haggling for the price.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Meanwhile, James Bond movies were made by old men, principally an elderly producer who wouldn't have dreamed of casting Daniel Craig, and a leading actor who couldn't raise a cent at the box office in his own films (sound familiar?) but who liked to live the lifestyle of a international movie star.
So a "comfortable, can't be arsed" status quo existed. And so some very ordinary Bond films followed. But the old gents did indeed get wealthier and fatter.
No, it means that your claim in post 21 re Moore's age causing other actors to be tested is incorrect.
No, as Higgins said in post 41.
Post 5 above, and quoted in post 7: There really was no other choice than Moore for OP.
Bond in the early 1980 was out of date compared with EVERYTHING. -{
Not the best time to tell you late teenage mates you were a fan...
Or listen to the audiobooks. Another great way to discover the Fleming novels.
Sorry, but you could not be any wronger!
After AVTAK the same "old men" decided to go with a much younger Tim Dalton whom some (not me) consider having brought a much harder tone to the movies.
As you criticize Moore not "having made a cent" in his other movies, this has been the same for Connery until "the name of the rose" in 1986.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Until "First Blood" action movies had to be big and funny - it was kind of the formula back then - and even "Raiders" followed that formula.
I remember FYEO being one of the first action movies with a much more serious approach - that was kind of new and exciting back then (1981).
And even after "First Blood" Bonds have been highly successful until AVTAK which fell short with fans and casual audiences. But it still made good money on the box office.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
No, he was a huge British film star IN his 70's.
removing Peppermill from my list of favorite AJBers
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Putting him back on my list
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Obviously, you and I, in our different worlds, had different ideas of what was "new and exciting" back in 1981.
Around these parts, Rambo was cool. Rog-Bond wasn't. A hero with a face dyed ginger and liver spots? Though I've never disputed he made Cubby a few bob anywhere, have I?
The past has taught me (Tom Ford QoS sunglasses) me not to engage further into discussions with you
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Considering the trash that was around in the eighties ie Rambo, Die Hard....I'd say that was a good thing.
Bond stuck around. It survived. And went on be one of the best decades,
Bond is a genre of its own, so doesn't have to strictly follow fashion.