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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    They have to explain the plot to a cinema audience, not to
    Bond fans. ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    They have to explain the plot to a cinema audience, not to
    Bond fans. ;)
    Yeah, just kidding. I get it. And agree with your take on it TP.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    If you're agreeing with me Chrisisall, I must be wrong ! :p :))
    ( just kidding ) ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    And agree with your take on it TP

    Me too. -{
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    I have a question, amongst the Brosnan Bashing over at MI6 someone said there was the huge continuity error in TWINE where Bond injures his right shoulder in the PTS, yet it's his left shoulder in the rest of the movie...that's assuming it was the landing that hurt his shoulder, and sometimes injuries happen in stranger ways than an impact you brace for- check out how Bond hits that final wire, it looks to me like it jamms up his left arm before he secures himself with his right. That could have been it, so IMO not a continuity error so much as the film makers not making it clear precisely where his left shoulder gets the injury.

    What does everyone think? ?:)
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Falling on to the 02 dome, Brosnan stops himself by holding on to
    A cable with his right arm his left hanging by his side. On walking away as
    The titles start you can see Bond raise his right arm to rub his left
    Shoulder !
    So I'd say it was his left shoulder that was injured. Only my opinion
    Though. :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    Falling on to the 02 dome, Brosnan stops himself by holding on to
    A cable with his right arm
    Yeah, if his right was damaged, how could he hold on, anyway? Thanks pal. {[]
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    I've always wondered about this, but Bond and Honey pass out around the Sofa and then there suddenly in Bed? Did they wake up again or did one of the Doctors Assistants move them to the Beds?
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I always guessed the nurses put them to bed ?
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    Camille wearing casual clothes during their commando raid at the end of QoS. Her gear reminds me of Becky in Clerks II.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I always thought I'd odd, how quickly the fire spread in the drug
    Lab in LTK.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    I always thought I'd odd, how quickly the fire spread in the drug
    Lab in LTK.

    Same here. Bond created a relatively small distraction and suddenly the whole place is exploding. Must be Bond's magic touch.
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • hehadlotsofgutshehadlotsofguts Durham England Posts: 2,107MI6 Agent
    Health and safety isn't a Bond villain's strong point.
    Have you ever heard of the Emancipation Proclamation?"

    " I don't listen to hip hop!"
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :)) a well placed fire extinguisher, would have sorted it out . :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • hehadlotsofgutshehadlotsofguts Durham England Posts: 2,107MI6 Agent
    You see one of Sanchez's men with one. Useful as a chocolate fireguard. A sprinkler system would've been better.
    Have you ever heard of the Emancipation Proclamation?"

    " I don't listen to hip hop!"
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :)) saving money on the building costs ! :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    Are you guys kidding me?? The place was filled with gasoline, Remember? No inspections or regulations... it was a tinderbox waiting for the match Bond provided! Let us also remember for a moment that Bond's world is not OUR'S. Much like Zorro & Superman, he exists in a fantasy version of Earth, and in THIS version, coincidence & extreme flamability rule. B-) :))
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    Would shooting a Planes Instruments really make it start to descend? That's something I've always wondered when watching MR :))
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  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    When Brosnan says "The world is not enough" in TWINE, it feels canned (compared to everything else in the conversation).
  • hehadlotsofgutshehadlotsofguts Durham England Posts: 2,107MI6 Agent
    Did Pam Bouvier work for the Contras at one point? Just Dario's line about her flying for some friends of his. How could she be a CIA agent if she had been doing that?
    Have you ever heard of the Emancipation Proclamation?"

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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    Ah, this classic Thread :D

    Maybe she was undercover?
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  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,644MI6 Agent
    Did Pam Bouvier work for the Contras at one point? Just Dario's line about her flying for some friends of his. How could she be a CIA agent if she had been doing that?

    I think that perhaps Dario was trying to reel Pam into a trap.
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    Goldeneye:

    I never quite understood the elaborate plan that Bond cooked up on how to appeal to Valentin's wallet. How did Bond arrange all that so quickly?

    And in return, what did Valentin say to Janus? "James Bond wants to meet you. Go collect him at the health spa."

    I would expect them to put a sack over Bond's head (like in Spectre) and drive him there as a prisoner. Instead Bond retains his gun and control of the situation.


    Octopussy:

    "I'm afraid there's not much to go on."

    "Well, we do have one lead- Property of a Lady"

    They actually had a lot to go in. Investigate circuses that were in East Berlin!

    Much later in the film, when they are finally back in Berlin, M says "We confirmed the Octopussy Circus was in East Berlin when 009 was killed."

    Ok good…why didn't you figure that out sooner instead of sending Bond all the way to India?
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • JagJag Posts: 1,167MI6 Agent
    Did Pam Bouvier work for the Contras at one point? Just Dario's line about her flying for some friends of his. How could she be a CIA agent if she had been doing that?


    CIA financed the contras. She could easily have been paid by both.
  • am747am747 Posts: 720MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:

    Octopussy:

    "I'm afraid there's not much to go on."

    "Well, we do have one lead- Property of a Lady"

    They actually had a lot to go in. Investigate circuses that were in East Berlin!

    Much later in the film, when they are finally back in Berlin, M says "We confirmed the Octopussy Circus was in East Berlin when 009 was killed."

    Ok good…why didn't you figure that out sooner instead of sending Bond all the way to India?

    Let's look at the events:

    a) 009 was found in West Berlin with the egg
    b) The egg led to Kamal
    c) Kamal went to India
    d) Bond went to Ind
    e) In Ind, Bond learned about the circus
    f) M confirmed the info about the circus

    So immediately after 009 was killed:

    a) MI6 may not have had all the information available (there was no Google too at that time)
    b) During the time Bond was in Ind, new scraps of info would have surfaced
    c) Those scraps of info corroborated when Bond presumably brought in additional details

    Now say if Bond had gone to East Berlin immediately, what would he have discovered? Kamal and Octopussy (and her traveling circus) had already moved out of there and were in Ind

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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    am747 wrote:
    Firemass wrote:

    Octopussy:

    "I'm afraid there's not much to go on."

    "Well, we do have one lead- Property of a Lady"

    They actually had a lot to go in. Investigate circuses that were in East Berlin!

    Much later in the film, when they are finally back in Berlin, M says "We confirmed the Octopussy Circus was in East Berlin when 009 was killed."

    Ok good…why didn't you figure that out sooner instead of sending Bond all the way to India?

    Let's look at the events:

    a) 009 was found in West Berlin with the egg
    b) The egg led to Kamal
    c) Kamal went to India
    d) Bond went to Ind
    e) In Ind, Bond learned about the circus
    f) M confirmed the info about the circus

    So immediately after 009 was killed:

    a) MI6 may not have had all the information available (there was no Google too at that time)
    b) During the time Bond was in Ind, new scraps of info would have surfaced
    c) Those scraps of info corroborated when Bond presumably brought in additional details

    Now say if Bond had gone to East Berlin immediately, what would he have discovered? Kamal and Octopussy (and her traveling circus) had already moved out of there and were in Ind

    {[]

    I agree.

    What would have Bond found if he went to the place 009 died? Probably nothing because everyone involved had gone home to India. If 009 had survived, he most likely would have gone to the auction in London and then followed Kamal Khan to India. I'm just assuming Bond started where 009 finished. The egg was just as good a lead as where 009 died. We don't know why 009 was in East Berlin and what he knew. If Bond had gone to East Berlin, he probably would have found something that would have sent him to India and wasted his time.
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  • CmdrAtticusCmdrAtticus United StatesPosts: 1,102MI6 Agent
    OHMSS: 1. The casino staff in the Lisbon casino speak in French instead of Portuguese. Never heard an explanation for that.
    2. As Bond is hanging on the aerial tramway cable about to have his hands severed by the cable wheels he lets go just before
    it can happen and in the very next cut he is holding on to the skeletal support above the car. This has always bothered me as there is obviously quite a distance from the support to the front of the wheels. I rode in this on my visit and all I could figure out is they did this jump cut so no one would hopefully notice. However, in reality when I looked out of the car windows at the distance it seemed more likely if someone really let go right in front of the wheels they would drop about fifteen feet before hitting the front roof of the car. Even if one could throw themselves towards the skeletal support gravity and the speed of the car would cause them to end up at the very least hitting the bottom of the support at the roof base! I guess I have to chalk this one up to another case of Bond film cartoon physics. PS - when I went up to Piz Gloria the day after Christmas and there was snow and it looked just like it did in the film - except as I left Murren a fog rolled in so it ended up like you see in this picture where this poor lady had the same experience. Here I was in the Alps and couldn't see a bloody thing! That's alpine winter weather for you...
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  • CoolHandBondCoolHandBond Mactan IslandPosts: 6,030MI6 Agent
    OHMSS: 1. The casino staff in the Lisbon casino speak in French instead of Portuguese. Never heard an explanation for that.
    2. As Bond is hanging on the aerial tramway cable about to have his hands severed by the cable wheels he lets go just before
    it can happen and in the very next cut he is holding on to the skeletal support above the car. This has always bothered me as there is obviously quite a distance from the support to the front of the wheels. I rode in this on my visit and all I could figure out is they did this jump cut so no one would hopefully notice. However, in reality when I looked out of the car windows at the distance it seemed more likely if someone really let go right in front of the wheels they would drop about fifteen feet before hitting the front roof of the car. Even if one could throw themselves towards the skeletal support gravity and the speed of the car would cause them to end up at the very least hitting the bottom of the support at the roof base! I guess I have to chalk this one up to another case of Bond film cartoon physics. PS - when I went up to Piz Gloria the day after Christmas and there was snow and it looked just like it did in the film - except as I left Murren a fog rolled in so it ended up like you see in this picture where this poor lady had the same experience. Here I was in the Alps and couldn't see a bloody thing! That's alpine winter weather for you...
    6064241.jpg

    DSCF0270.jpg

    In the 60's and 70's, casino's throughout Europe would always use French as the language on the big tables (high stakes) as a matter of course - I remember "Rien ne va plus" (no more bets) being used in several casino's in England when I played the roulette tables as part of a syndicate playing the even bets - we were so successful that they changed the rules and banned groups of players playing as a team - English was used on the smaller tables, so I think that the use of French is par for the course in this instance.

    As for your second point, it's James Bond, he can defy the laws of gravity :D
    Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    In my mind, ( not shown on film) Bond begins swinging on the cable, in
    a pendulum effect, which gives him enough forward momentum to
    successfully land on the cable car's support bracket. :)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
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