Black Bond Actor?

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  • stagstag Posts: 2,083MI6 Agent
    If I was being cynical I might suggest the comments by DC & 'leaked' emails are simply a method of setting up the public for what has already been decided.

    Personally I have never heard of Idris Elba. I had to google his name to find out who he is.

    IE in Bondesque poses.

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    No doubt the man has style & presence but Bond? No! Let the filmmakers stick with the original script as laid down by Fleming.

    Replacement Bond: White, British, about 6ft tall, athletic build, dark hair.

    Nothing racist about it.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • David SchofieldDavid Schofield EnglandPosts: 1,528MI6 Agent
    Does one assume that Elba isn't quite bankable enough without Bond that no one has the courage to build a big movie around him?

    Say as a slick, suave action hero?

    8-)
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Sadly for Idris, he'll be too old for Bond by the time Craig stops.
    So I'm hoping he'll be a villain, or an ally in a couple of films. -{
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    Yes, he will be mid 40's by the Time Craig leaves.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    He could be pushing 50 by the time Craig leaves, and then I'd
    Be looking for a younger man in his early 30s !
    (This is nothing to do with Bond just a personal advert, I'm working
    On :)) )
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • stagstag Posts: 2,083MI6 Agent
    I think it would be interesting to see him as one of the other 00's in a 'mirror' film, no doubt he'd be able to pull it off & could make the role his own. Unfortunately Sony wouldn't have this as it may tread on the toes of 007.
  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    edited December 2014
    Eon could just fire Craig after Spectre and hire Elba for two movies.

    Nah, just kidding. That wouldn't go well for anyone.
  • 00730073 COPPosts: 977MI6 Agent
    I do NOT want a Black Bond.
    But I would still watch the film series and find enjoyment in it if they do go ahead. :) -{ Idris Elba is a fantastic actor, one of my favourites actually.
    IMHO I feel people want a Black Bond just for the sake of having a Black Bond. To be all politically Correct. Not because they feel it would enhance the film in anyway. I'm looking forward to having the 7th Bond actor to look more like Timothy Dalton. Since they are looking back on the Books now
    Well said, sir.
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  • Smiert-SpionamSmiert-Spionam Posts: 318MI6 Agent
    stag wrote:
    I think it would be interesting to see him as one of the other 00's in a 'mirror' film, no doubt he'd be able to pull it off & could make the role his own. Unfortunately Sony wouldn't have this as it may tread on the toes of 007.

    YES! In a role as another 00 agent he'd be perfect. I feel he could have a big role next to Craig as a valuable ally. Equally I could see him as a very interesting villain.
    Smiert Spionam
  • fanofbondfanofbond Posts: 35MI6 Agent
    It all falls to 2 words.... Political Correctness.

    and its all BS. Just ain't going to happen. EON are much smarter than that and Cubby would have never allowed it.
  • UltimateTruthUltimateTruth Posts: 140MI6 Agent
    Race aside, I think that guy"s looks would change dramatically if he got rid of the goatee.......If they're going to allow Bond w a goatee, then get David Gandy in acting classes ASAP !
  • always shakenalways shaken LondonPosts: 6,287MI6 Agent
    personally in my opinion, I cant see a non-white Bond working, simply due to the history of the man,
    No more than ,say David Yip could be Sherlock Holmes , or Warwick Davies playing Tarzan ,Mind you I think Ricky Gervais
    could be a good LT Kojak :D
    By the way, did I tell you, I was "Mad"?
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    fanofbond wrote:
    It all falls to 2 words.... Political Correctness.

    and its all BS. Just ain't going to happen. EON are much smarter than that and Cubby would have never allowed it.

    As much as I try to stay out of these conversations, I get pulled back in again! (to paraphrase Michael Corleone in The Godfather III). There are legitimate reasons that many fans would be opposed to having a Black actor play Bond that have nothing to do with racism. For some, the only way for the cinematic Bond to be true to the character Fleming created is for him to be portrayed by a white male. I understand that point of view. There are also a number of individuals who feel that Idris Elba or some other capable Black actor has what it takes to play a modern day Bond, and that belief may have absolutely nothing to do with so-called "Political Correctness". I think it would behoove us all not to be so dismissive about that opinion, even if we might disagree with it.
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • Westward_DriftWestward_Drift Posts: 3,085MI6 Agent
    fanofbond wrote:
    It all falls to 2 words.... Political Correctness.

    and its all BS. Just ain't going to happen. EON are much smarter than that and Cubby would have never allowed it.

    As much as I try to stay out of these conversations, I get pulled back in again! (to paraphrase Michael Corleone in The Godfather III). There are legitimate reasons that many fans would be opposed to having a Black actor play Bond that have nothing to do with racism. For some, the only way for the cinematic Bond to be true to the character Fleming created is for him to be portrayed by a white male. I understand that point of view. There are also a number of individuals who feel that Idris Elba or some other capable Black actor has what it takes to play a modern day Bond, and that belief may have absolutely nothing to do with so-called "Political Correctness". I think it would behoove us all not to be so dismissive about that opinion, even if we might disagree with it.

    Well said. {[]
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    fanofbond wrote:
    It all falls to 2 words.... Political Correctness.

    and its all BS. Just ain't going to happen. EON are much smarter than that and Cubby would have never allowed it.

    As much as I try to stay out of these conversations, I get pulled back in again! (to paraphrase Michael Corleone in The Godfather III). There are legitimate reasons that many fans would be opposed to having a Black actor play Bond that have nothing to do with racism. For some, the only way for the cinematic Bond to be true to the character Fleming created is for him to be portrayed by a white male. I understand that point of view. There are also a number of individuals who feel that Idris Elba or some other capable Black actor has what it takes to play a modern day Bond, and that belief may have absolutely nothing to do with so-called "Political Correctness". I think it would behoove us all not to be so dismissive about that opinion, even if we might disagree with it.

    Well {[] said.
    Ve {[] ry!
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:

    As much as I try to stay out of these conversations, I get pulled back in again! (to paraphrase Michael Corleone in The Godfather III). There are legitimate reasons that many fans would be opposed to having a Black actor play Bond that have nothing to do with racism. For some, the only way for the cinematic Bond to be true to the character Fleming created is for him to be portrayed by a white male. I understand that point of view. There are also a number of individuals who feel that Idris Elba or some other capable Black actor has what it takes to play a modern day Bond, and that belief may have absolutely nothing to do with so-called "Political Correctness". I think it would behoove us all not to be so dismissive about that opinion, even if we might disagree with it.

    Well {[] said.
    Ve {[] ry!

    100% {[] agree.
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:

    Well {[] said.
    Ve {[] ry!

    100% {[] agree.

    Yes, me too {[]
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  • DEFIANT 74205DEFIANT 74205 Perth, AustraliaPosts: 1,881MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    As a fan of Star Trek, I would welcome the homogenization of Humanity in the hopes it would encourage whirled peas.

    And as a fellow Star Trek fan, I too would welcome different characters of different ethnicity to the Bond film franchise. However, I would place the emphasis on different characters. No one but a white Anglo-Saxon British man of about 6' tall and an athletic build should be Bond, irrespective of acting ability. I believe in the selection of actors to portray a well established character, physical appearance and physical characteristics are just as, if not more important than acting ability.

    What if Abrams had cast Jamie Foxx as the new Captain Kirk, instead of Chris Pine? Nicole Kidman as Uhura? Samuel L Jackson as Spock? It just would not work. They are characters that have long been established, with established backgrounds and ethnicity dating back to the original series. You cannot simply change that and displace it with a different background. Kirk is not African American any more than Uhura is Australian.
    stag wrote:
    No doubt the man has style & presence but Bond? No! Let the filmmakers stick with the original script as laid down by Fleming.

    Replacement Bond: White, British, about 6ft tall, athletic build, dark hair.

    Nothing racist about it.

    -{

    Well said.
    fanofbond wrote:
    It all falls to 2 words.... Political Correctness.

    and its all BS. Just ain't going to happen. EON are much smarter than that and Cubby would have never allowed it.

    Again, I agree. I don't think we should be 'colour blind' in the selection of a new actor to portray Bond for reasons I have already mentioned. Both of Bond's parents are white, his mother being Swiss and his father being Scottish. But for exceptionally rare instances, white parents do not give birth to a black child. Bond has a background which cannot be changed, for to do so would be to destroy Fleming's work.
    As much as I try to stay out of these conversations, I get pulled back in again! (to paraphrase Michael Corleone in The Godfather III). There are legitimate reasons that many fans would be opposed to having a Black actor play Bond that have nothing to do with racism. For some, the only way for the cinematic Bond to be true to the character Fleming created is for him to be portrayed by a white male. I understand that point of view. There are also a number of individuals who feel that Idris Elba or some other capable Black actor has what it takes to play a modern day Bond, and that belief may have absolutely nothing to do with so-called "Political Correctness". I think it would behoove us all not to be so dismissive about that opinion, even if we might disagree with it.

    Maybe I'm too single minded, but I fail to see why there is any rational argument that the character of Bond should be changed.
    "Watch the birdie, you bastard!"
  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    fanofbond wrote:
    It all falls to 2 words.... Political Correctness.


    I'll bite. I don't see my acceptance of a black Bond as a huge campaign for social justice or a shift to the political-left. I don't think Ibris Elba was considered because having him as Bond would improve socially disadvantaged people.

    I really don't get the stigma toward "political correctness", though. Usually, the PC label is used as a way to justify rude comments.
  • always shakenalways shaken LondonPosts: 6,287MI6 Agent
    I still think Warwick Davis should Tarzan :))
    By the way, did I tell you, I was "Mad"?
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    I really don't get the stigma toward "political correctness", though. Usually, the PC label is used as a way to justify rude comments.

    I agree wholeheartedly. That's why it bugs the hell out of me when people use that phrase instead of articulating an actual basis for their position.
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Maybe I'm too single minded, but I fail to see why there is any rational argument that the character of Bond should be changed.

    I believe the argument goes something like this - Idris Elba strikes some fans as the sort of handsome, suave, physically skilled British bloke who reminds one of James Bond. True, up until now Bond has always been white, but in this modern age why would it not be possible for Bond to be Black? Of course that is not how the character was written and presented in the novels, but we are talking about the cinematic Bond here. Is his Scottish/Swiss background really that crucial to the character we see in the movies? Perhaps not, and over time it is possible that fans could get used to Bond being Black after a few outings. Besides, Idris Elba (or perhaps another Black actor) is such a skilled performer that he would eventually make Bond his own and viewers would begin to focus more on 007's latest adventure, and less on his race. Now I completely understand that there are legions of fans who simply would not buy this argument under any circumstance, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's not rational.
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    +1, -{
    Black or White doesn't matter, so long as he's not an American ! :p :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    +1, -{
    Black or White doesn't matter, so long as he's not an American ! :p :))

    With the exception, of course, being me!!!! :))
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    I think Micheal Jackson wrote a Song about this :))
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    I really don't get the stigma toward "political correctness", though. Usually, the PC label is used as a way to justify rude comments.

    I agree wholeheartedly. That's why it bugs the hell out of me when people use that phrase instead of articulating an actual basis for their position.
    PC started out very noble, then got a little full of itself to the point where it's now the butt of jokes. Like any other 'movement' it got perverted. I fully agree with political correctness THE WAY IT STARTED. It was another way of saying "let's be real here." It was neither right nor left in concept.

    *falls off soapbox*
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  • stagstag Posts: 2,083MI6 Agent
    PC got 'perverted' by all those with an axe to grind who sought to use it to further their own agenda.

    Back to Bond - cinematic vs literary - I've only seen it once but didn't Skyfall go into detail about Bonds heritage? Didn't part of the action take place at the ancestral home of the Bond family? If I'm correct then it established JBs celluloid lineage to the point where there could be little room for doubt?
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Yes, he should have a Scottish accent ! :))
    Now what actor was able to do that ? ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 26,417Chief of Staff
    Yes, he should have a Scottish accent ! :))
    Now what actor was able to do that ? ;)

    Why ? He's half Swiss ;) :D
    YNWA 97
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