"Debut" Bonds Seem to be the Best

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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    Brosnan got a very poor introduction, ... hanging about in a
    Russian toilet. :#

    And we don't count the breathtaking stunt before because it's a stuntman doing the jump? :))
    In all things, I blame Brosnan. :v
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • James SuzukiJames Suzuki New ZealandPosts: 2,406MI6 Agent
    I like all the actor's introductions to be honest. Even Moore's. He was the only Bond to begin with him in bed with a girl -{
    I feel like that's a great introduction to what Moore was like. :)
    I personally love Brosnan's intro, who cares if it was in a toilet, he was being a badass and made a funny one-liner (Sorry, forgot to knock).
    I feel like Connery's intro is a bit overplayed, but its still great and oozes class etc. George's one was great, lighting the cigarette and all, and I loved the Barry music. Dalton's one was utter superb! Very cleverly done, with you not knowing which one was 007, until that one shot where he turns his head and everyone's like 'THAT"S HIM!'
    Craig's intro was done very well, the film-noir scene with the bathroom fight. All of them do a good job and portraying what their Bond was like just by the first scene.
    “The scent and smoke and sweat of a casino are nauseating at three in the morning. "
    -Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,058Chief of Staff
    chrisisall wrote:
    In all things, I blame Brosnan. :v

    Who are you, and what have you done with our Chris? :D
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    chrisisall wrote:
    In all things, I blame Brosnan. :v
    Who are you, and what have you done with our Chris? :D
    I was just trying to fit in with the He-Man-Brosnan-Hater's Club.
    Not a good fit for me... :s
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Yes, they're a bit too butch for me as well. :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • WadsyWadsy Auckland, New ZealandPosts: 410MI6 Agent
    I agree with only On Her Majesty's Secret Service (obviously), The Living Daylights and Goldeneye. For Moore, FYEO gets my vote and for Craig, SF gets the vote.
    1. FYEO 2. OHMSS 3. LTK 4. FRWL 5. TLD 6. TSWLM 7. GF 8. AVTAK 9. MR 10. DN 11. SF 12. LALD 13. TB 14. OP 15. CR 16. GE 17. YOLT 18. TMWTGG 19. SP 20. TND 21. TWINE 22. QOS 23. NTTD 24. DAF 25. DAD 26. NSNA 27. CR '67

    1. Dalton 2. Moore 3. Connery 4. Craig 5. Lazenby 6. Brosnan
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    Sean - Dr No
    George - OHMSS
    Rog - Live and Let Die
    Tim - The Living Daylights
    Pierce - (lets out sigh) Goldeneye
    Daniel - Casino Royale

    Yep, all solid entries. Strangely enough Rog coasts through LALD. Probably the right thing to do - to get away from Sean's epic run...
    1. For Your Eyes Only 2. The Living Daylights 3 From Russia with Love 4. Casino Royale 5. OHMSS 6. Skyfall
  • Smiert-SpionamSmiert-Spionam Posts: 318MI6 Agent
    Connery had the best 'Opening Screen' Appearance, whilst Moores was not that spectacular.

    Connery's opening scene is the most classic by far but I absolutely love Dalton's first appearance in TLD during the training exercise in Gibraltar. Usually I'm watching it after a marathon of silly Moore entries and as soon as I see Dalton I think 'thank god we're back to a serious, Fleming-esque Bond again'. :))
    Smiert Spionam
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I always thought Dalton's " reveal" with the wind blowing his hair etc,
    Was a nod to his then, best known role as Heathcliff in Wuthering Heights ?
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Gala BrandGala Brand Posts: 1,172MI6 Agent
    The "first film the best" only works for me for Craig and Brosnan (I'm not counting Lazenby). In both cases EON had extra time to make the movie, so that's probably why they're the best.

    Just think how good the Bond movies would be if EON only made one every ten years!

    Of course most of the posters at AJB would go insane if that happened . . .
  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    IMO, CR has Craig's weakest 007 performance. He did do quite well in the PTS, but I think throughout the rest of the movie his portrayal was often dry.

    I feel it took Craig one more film to make 007 his own, and that was QoS (just my opinion).

    I think Connery and Brosnan had better debut performances than Craig. Then again, I happen to like both more.
    "Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
    New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
    1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
    Bond actors to be re-ranked later
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    IMO, CR has Craig's weakest 007 performance. He did do quite well in the PTS, but I think throughout the rest of the movie his portrayal was often dry.

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    :)) :)) :)) :)) :))

    I have just watched Craigs performance in Casino Royale. From the first scene to the last he gives a bravura performance
    '
    I'd watch it again if I were you...
    1. For Your Eyes Only 2. The Living Daylights 3 From Russia with Love 4. Casino Royale 5. OHMSS 6. Skyfall
  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    I might rewatch CR sometime, but it's currently my least fave of the Craig films. It just grew off hard for me.
    "Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
    New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
    1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
    Bond actors to be re-ranked later
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :)) I agree, the term " Exploded on to the screen" could be used for
    Craig's debut performance. ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    I've always thought that the debut for each Bond actor was when they were at their "coolest".

    Agreed, youth and novelty is the formula for cool.
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    Wasn't he nominated for a Bafta for Casino Royale?
    1. For Your Eyes Only 2. The Living Daylights 3 From Russia with Love 4. Casino Royale 5. OHMSS 6. Skyfall
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    It just grew off hard for me.

    What does this mean?
    1. For Your Eyes Only 2. The Living Daylights 3 From Russia with Love 4. Casino Royale 5. OHMSS 6. Skyfall
  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    It just grew off hard for me.

    What does this mean?

    That I like it less than when I first saw it.

    I will concede that there are aspects I like: the directing by Campbell, Mikkelsen's acting, the torture scene, the PTS, some of the action, and Craig's delivery of the introductory line.

    But I've my issues, we can discuss them more in the "Criticisms of Casino Royale" thread.
    "Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
    New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
    1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
    Bond actors to be re-ranked later
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    It just grew off hard for me.

    What does this mean?

    That I like it less than when I first saw it.

    I will concede that there are aspects I like: the directing by Campbell, Mikkelsen's acting, the torture scene, the PTS, some of the action, and Craig's delivery of the introductory line.

    But I've my issues, we can discuss them more in the "Criticisms of Casino Royale" thread.

    I have a theory on why you don't like the Craig era. I bet I'd right...
    1. For Your Eyes Only 2. The Living Daylights 3 From Russia with Love 4. Casino Royale 5. OHMSS 6. Skyfall
  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent

    What does this mean?

    That I like it less than when I first saw it.

    I will concede that there are aspects I like: the directing by Campbell, Mikkelsen's acting, the torture scene, the PTS, some of the action, and Craig's delivery of the introductory line.

    But I've my issues, we can discuss them more in the "Criticisms of Casino Royale" thread.


    I have a theory on why you don't like the Craig era. I bet I'd right...


    I quite like QoS and love SF. But no, I'm not too big on Craig as 007. I'd say I prefer Brosnan, Connery, Moore, and maybe even Dalton to him.
    "Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
    New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
    1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
    Bond actors to be re-ranked later
  • Lady IceLady Ice Posts: 279MI6 Agent
    I think the theory does hold up; as a debut has to sell the new actor as Bond, the film cannot let the actor down. Once the actor has proved themselves in the first film, the latter films don't need to convince us that they are Bond because we accept it. Also, the fun of the gamble- will the new actor 'become' Bond?- adds another level of excitement.
  • WadsyWadsy Auckland, New ZealandPosts: 410MI6 Agent
    While I agree with this to some extent, it only goes towards The Living Daylights and Goldeneye for me. Dr No is a terrific film indeed, but was surpassed by it's two follow ups. Live And Let Die was just... a mediocre mixed bag. I don't hate it, or Moore's performance, but it misses out on his later films, and what makes 007 a great film series. Casino Royale is a great action movie but not a Bond movie in my opinion. Both Skyfall and Spectre were more enjoyable to watch.

    For the ones I do agree with, TLD is an amazing Bond film with the best Bond performance in a Bond movie. I loved the locations, cast, plot and score. While the villains aren't great, this is better than LTK simply because of M16 being more involved in 007's mission, and the excellent final score by John Barry.
    1. FYEO 2. OHMSS 3. LTK 4. FRWL 5. TLD 6. TSWLM 7. GF 8. AVTAK 9. MR 10. DN 11. SF 12. LALD 13. TB 14. OP 15. CR 16. GE 17. YOLT 18. TMWTGG 19. SP 20. TND 21. TWINE 22. QOS 23. NTTD 24. DAF 25. DAD 26. NSNA 27. CR '67

    1. Dalton 2. Moore 3. Connery 4. Craig 5. Lazenby 6. Brosnan
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