Spectre In Relates To The Past Film

I am confused at this point. When Skyfall came out, they said that the film has no relation to the past films (Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace) and stand alone entirely. Now we are know Spectre ties back to Skyfall, Quantum of Solace and Casino Royale. What is going on? ?:) ?:)
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Vicsane007 wrote:
    I am confused at this point. When Skyfall came out, they said that the film has no relation to the past films (Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace) and stand alone entirely. Now we are know Spectre ties back to Skyfall, Quantum of Solace and Casino Royale. What is going on? ?:) ?:)

    The Skyfall story stood alone, unlike how QOS was a direct sequel to CR. But now SF is like how CR was made without considering there could be a direct sequel to it. They're not changing anything that happened in the previous films, they're just giving us more information to what happened and figured a way to link all the films that they hadn't thought of before.
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  • perdoggperdogg Posts: 432MI6 Agent
    Vicsane007 wrote:
    I am confused at this point. When Skyfall came out, they said that the film has no relation to the past films (Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace) and stand alone entirely. Now we are know Spectre ties back to Skyfall, Quantum of Solace and Casino Royale. What is going on? ?:) ?:)


    It is called lack of creativity. Spectre is just Skyfall with different players.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    lack of creativity, like a fox ! :D
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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    perdogg wrote:
    Spectre is just Skyfall with different players.

    Oh, so you've seen it already. How did you manage to pull that off?
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I guess, you could say. The Box Moneypenny gives Bond, which
    was found in the ruins of Skyfall lodge. :)

    On that point,wasn't Skyfall Lodge sold ? So all the stuff in it should
    belong to the new owner. As compensation at least after Bond blew
    the crap out of it. :))
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  • ShatterfangShatterfang Posts: 538MI6 Agent
    People keep thinking Skyfall is a reboot. The reboot is at Casino Royale. Just because Skyfall didn't have any links to Casino and Quantum doesn't mean they are starting over. Spectre has mr. White. all there is to it
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    People keep thinking Skyfall is a reboot. The reboot is at Casino Royale. Just because Skyfall didn't have any links to Casino and Quantum doesn't mean they are starting over. Spectre has mr. White. all there is to it

    This is actually the first I've heard of people thinking Skyfall is a reboot. I hear more people trying to deny that CR was a reboot than accepting the producers' word that it is.
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  • Gala BrandGala Brand Posts: 1,172MI6 Agent
    I guess, you could say. The Box Moneypenny gives Bond, which
    was found in the ruins of Skyfall lodge. :)

    On that point,wasn't Skyfall Lodge sold ? So all the stuff in it should
    belong to the new owner. As compensation at least after Bond blew
    the crap out of it. :))

    Maybe the new owners voided the contract (payment still in escrow).

    Or

    Maybe the insurance company paid off (ignoring the clause which read "no payment shall be made in event of damages caused by insane fromer Mi6 agents").

    In which case the box belongs to the insurance company. :)
  • HatThrowingHenchmanHatThrowingHenchman Russia With LovePosts: 1,834MI6 Agent
    from what I've read there will be a bigger connection between all 4 movies
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Gala Brand wrote:
    I guess, you could say. The Box Moneypenny gives Bond, which
    was found in the ruins of Skyfall lodge. :)

    On that point,wasn't Skyfall Lodge sold ? So all the stuff in it should
    belong to the new owner. As compensation at least after Bond blew
    the crap out of it. :))

    Maybe the new owners voided the contract (payment still in escrow).

    Or

    Maybe the insurance company paid off (ignoring the clause which read "no payment shall be made in event of damages caused by insane fromer Mi6 agents").

    In which case the box belongs to the insurance company. :)

    Would the government not have the right to seize anything in the house, no matter who it belongs to, since anything there could be valuable intelligence?
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  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    perdogg wrote:
    Vicsane007 wrote:
    I am confused at this point. When Skyfall came out, they said that the film has no relation to the past films (Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace) and stand alone entirely. Now we are know Spectre ties back to Skyfall, Quantum of Solace and Casino Royale. What is going on? ?:) ?:)


    It is called lack of creativity. Spectre is just Skyfall with different players.

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  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    from what I've read there will be a bigger connection between all 4 movies

    yeah probably Mr White is the link...
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  • ShatterfangShatterfang Posts: 538MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    People keep thinking Skyfall is a reboot. The reboot is at Casino Royale. Just because Skyfall didn't have any links to Casino and Quantum doesn't mean they are starting over. Spectre has mr. White. all there is to it

    This is actually the first I've heard of people thinking Skyfall is a reboot. I hear more people trying to deny that CR was a reboot than accepting the producers' word that it is.

    Oh i have definetely heard people on yutube thinking its a reboot, also adding that they think Skyfall succeeded because it erased everything that happened in Quantum of Solace. i honestly don't know what they're on about.
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    One can of at least two minds on this.

    In some ways, this limits Craig's tenure. So far, his entire history as Bond seems to be one grand mission, interrelated in ways that are, at best, improbable, but aping the current trend in movies and television to tell "soap opera" style episodic stories. It's also another concession to imitating what other film series have done.

    In other ways, it follows some of Fleming's books more closely than many of the previous films. Fleming often treated his books as quasi-sequels to one another, starting one where the other left off. In some cases, the plot points did in fact have a direct correlation to each other and led to stories that could be seen as a single one rather than a separate title.

    Having come up through the 80s and 90s, when sequels were the norm, I'd prefer more standalone stories. They require more of the people making them because they can't rely on the momentum of a previous story. To me, that's more creative and interesting.
  • Lady IceLady Ice Posts: 279MI6 Agent
    People keep thinking Skyfall is a reboot. The reboot is at Casino Royale. Just because Skyfall didn't have any links to Casino and Quantum doesn't mean they are starting over. Spectre has mr. White. all there is to it

    Not a literal reboot but I think possibly a creative reboot, with Q and Moneypenny being integrated again, a new M and emphasis on Bond's past.
  • HatThrowingHenchmanHatThrowingHenchman Russia With LovePosts: 1,834MI6 Agent
    from what I've read there will be a bigger connection between all 4 movies

    yeah probably Mr White is the link...

    and beyond
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Lady Ice wrote:
    People keep thinking Skyfall is a reboot. The reboot is at Casino Royale. Just because Skyfall didn't have any links to Casino and Quantum doesn't mean they are starting over. Spectre has mr. White. all there is to it

    Not a literal reboot but I think possibly a creative reboot, with Q and Moneypenny being integrated again, a new M and emphasis on Bond's past.

    It's a stretch to call Skyfall any kind of reboot. All of Craig's Bond films have slowly been introducing the traditional Bond elements back into the series, and all have been examining the origins of the character, they just explored it in a different way in Skyfall. But nothing in Skyfall is incongruous with Craig's first two films.
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  • UnderwaterBattle007UnderwaterBattle007 Posts: 284MI6 Agent
    I can't wait for Bond to walk into M's office and he's given his 00 sanctioned mission. Simples.
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,990Quartermasters
    I can't wait for Bond to walk into M's office and he's given his 00 sanctioned mission. Simples.

    I've come to believe that that will be post Craigger.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Ah yes, " post Craigger" ............ That's when I usually have a cigarette. ;) :D
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