Criticisms of Casino Royale

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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,210Chief of Staff
    While I agree that Fleming's half is so much better, it would have been a much shorter movie if they'd stuck rigidly to the book. I think the expansion was called for and handled well. Today's audiences have different expectations- the camera/bomb sequence from the novel plus discovering Le Chiffre has Bond's room tapped would have been too small in scale.
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  • Virgil37Virgil37 Posts: 1,212MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Virgil37 wrote:
    Matt S wrote:

    I would have really preferred this.

    You realise you're not only getting rid of the airport scene, but also the whole buildup up to that scene, which is basically the whole movie, don't you?

    That would be only half the movie. The other half (Fleming's half) is so much better.

    You would have a 65-75 minute movie. 8-)
  • ToTheRightToTheRight Posts: 314MI6 Agent
    I actually wouldn't have minded if CR were about 15- 20 minutes shorter. I don't really like when they go much past, say 130 mins. Even at that films like OP and TLD seem to flow much better IMO. Bond shouldn't be Lawrence of Arabia.
  • superadosuperado Regent's Park West (CaliforniaPosts: 2,652MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    While I agree that Fleming's half is so much better, it would have been a much shorter movie if they'd stuck rigidly to the book. I think the expansion was called for and handled well. Today's audiences have different expectations- the camera/bomb sequence from the novel plus discovering Le Chiffre has Bond's room tapped would have been too small in scale.

    The stakes for Le Chiffre's Baccarat game would have been "one mee-lee-on dollars" :)) Yes, I agree that the adaptation of a 50+ year old novel was done extremely well and in keeping with how Fleming placed Bond a minute into the future.
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  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,292MI6 Agent
    CR is prob my top 3 pick with OHMSS and Thunderball.

    After crazy repetitive viewings over the years I must admit the airport scene is prob the only one bit I find that drags on a bit. Judging also by the views above maybe it could've been edited a little shorter. The keying / bomb finale with 007 smiling with the cops all over him is class though, just feels forever to get to it!!!
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  • Virgil37Virgil37 Posts: 1,212MI6 Agent
    edited October 2015
    welshboy78 wrote:
    CR is prob my top 3 pick with OHMSS and Thunderball.

    After crazy repetitive viewings over the years I must admit the airport scene is prob the only one bit I find that drags on a bit. Judging also by the views above maybe it could've been edited a little shorter. The keying / bomb finale with 007 smiling with the cops all over him is class though, just feels forever to get to it!!!

    The airport chase is like 7 minutes. 7 minutes of non stop action. I wouldn't call that "dragging on", but that's your opinion.
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,292MI6 Agent
    Precisely my point - it feels longer
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  • Virgil37Virgil37 Posts: 1,212MI6 Agent
    welshboy78 wrote:
    Precisely my point - it feels longer

    Sorry, I corrected it.
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Virgil37 wrote:
    welshboy78 wrote:
    CR is prob my top 3 pick with OHMSS and Thunderball.

    After crazy repetitive viewings over the years I must admit the airport scene is prob the only one bit I find that drags on a bit. Judging also by the views above maybe it could've been edited a little shorter. The keying / bomb finale with 007 smiling with the cops all over him is class though, just feels forever to get to it!!!

    The airport chase is like 7 minutes. 7 minutes of non stop action. I wouldn't call that "dragging on", but that's your opinion.

    I think even action can drag on if it's not that interesting. I can't believe that sequence is only 7 minutes. I feels like twice that.
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  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    ^ agree that it feels long. And drags out on subsequent viewings - but then again, so do Vesper and James talking...

    The 747 blowing away the police car is epic though, makes the airport sequence for me!
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  • Gala BrandGala Brand Posts: 1,172MI6 Agent
    welshboy78 wrote:
    Precisely my point - it feels longer

    Funny, I was told the same thing yesterday.

    Sorry. That was an homage for TP.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :)) I'm staying away from this argument ! :D
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