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ajb007/lol  I'm pretty stupid too, I loved it.  ajb007/cheers

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Thunderpussy wrote:

ajb007/lol  I'm pretty stupid too, I loved it.  ajb007/cheers

I hardly ever go to the cinema anymore, so ME going & enjoying it means ANYONE will love it!
Err.. except... those that don't. ajb007/embarrassed

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It's amazing since the American critic's started hating on SP and calling it one of the worst Bond films, people are coming out of the wood work and are questioning film critic's like Mark Kermode and others for given it such a high rating. Check Kermode's twitter page, he's getting some abuse as are fellow critic's for giving it top marks.

I didn't like SP too much (seen it twice and still find it boring in parts), and find it mind blogging that many find it better then SF or CR but I respect opinions. But to call it the worst Bond film of all time like some U.S critic's and to bully other critic's into changing their minds on it is a little OTT. It seems to have ticked the box for many Bond fans, many non fan's are calling it one of the worst films of the year which I find a little silly. I just find it funny on here, aside from one or two groans it's either enjoyed or been given top marks outside the Bond fandom it's been slaughtered.

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ArcticArsenal wrote:

I didn't like SP too much (seen it twice and still find it boring in parts)

In MY case, the 2 1/2 hours FLEW by! SF by comparison was a chore to get through.

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I could easily see myself watching SP more often than SF.

Just a colorful, fun film to watch.

I like SF, but I think I might come to like SP even more.

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ArcticArsenal wrote:

It's amazing since the American critic's started hating on SP and calling it one of the worst Bond films, people are coming out of the wood work and are questioning film critic's like Mark Kermode and others for given it such a high rating. Check Kermode's twitter page, he's getting some abuse as are fellow critic's for giving it top marks.

I didn't like SP too much (seen it twice and still find it boring in parts), and find it mind blogging that many find it better then SF or CR but I respect opinions. But to call it the worst Bond film of all time like some U.S critic's and to bully other critic's into changing their minds on it is a little OTT. It seems to have ticked the box for many Bond fans, many non fan's are calling it one of the worst films of the year which I find a little silly. I just find it funny on here, aside from one or two groans it's either enjoyed or been given top marks outside the Bond fandom it's been slaughtered.

It's obvious that the North Koreans are behind the negative reviews and the internet bullying of people who wrote positive reviews. ajb007/biggrin
On a more serious note, anyone calling SPECTRE one of the worst films of the year...well hmm, uh....may be it really is the North Koreans..

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ajb007/lol  Love the North Korean idea.  ajb007/martini

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If Amy Pascal was still at Sony and Sony re-upped with EON, the PTS of Bond 25 would be Bond assasinating a thinly vailed version of Kim Jong Ill II ajb007/lol  ajb007/martini

Levity is fine, but I do belive there are serious questions that need to be investigated. Are these critics being paid by the North Korean government? Have these critics or their loved ones been threatened by agents of North Korea and coersed? Are these scathing reviews actually being posted by agents of North Korea posing as legitimate film critics?

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HowardB wrote:

If Amy Pascal was still at Sony and Sony re-upped with EON, the PTS of Bond 25 would be Bond assasinating a thinly vailed version of Kim Jong Ill II ajb007/lol  ajb007/martini

Levity is fine, but I do belive there are serious questions that need to be investigated. Are these critics being paid by the North Korean government? Have these critics or their loved ones been threatened by agents of North Korea and coersed? Are these scathing reviews actually being posted by agents of North Korea posing as legitimate film critics?

Saw the film today and enjoyed it a lot. It's not perfect but it is far better than just about anything else playing right now. Will post more specific impressions later but with regard to all the negative reviews: its a phenomenon that I've seen again and again with these high profile blockbuster films.

Skyfall was really well received critically and so I was hardly surprised at all the unfair derision Spectre got, in fact I was kind of expecting it. Commercially viable franchises are always targeted by critics; when they actually praise one you can almost always be sure they will go out of their way to find fault with the followup. It's as if the critics are saying to themselves, "wait a minute, I actually liked one of these commercial movies and dared to praise it when I should have been singing the virtues of some obscure no-budget movie no rational person would think of watching. I'll have to remember to pan the next one to make up for it". 

I've seen it again and again with high profile franchise films:
- Casino Royale was praised, Quantum was panned
- Iron Man got raves, IM2 was derided
- Avengers was hailed as a great ensemble piece, Age of Ultron was maligned

There are far far more examples; none of the followups were nearly as bad as these snobby critics would have you believe.

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This is true.  Skyfall was overhyped.  And as a result, Spectre is probably getting backlash from the crowd who are holding Skyfall to a higher standard.

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SF was Mendes' training ground.
Boy did he learn!!! ajb007/martini

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My fist kid, an Angel. Second one the Antichrist !  ajb007/lol
So it might be a natural thing ?

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chrisisall wrote:

SF was Mendes' training ground.
Boy did he learn!!! ajb007/martini

Agreed.  I think he did a good job directing SF, but an even better one directing SP.

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Agent Purple wrote:

Agreed.  I think he did a good job directing SF, but an astounding one directing SP.

Fixed that for ya, bro. ajb007/biggrin

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chrisisall wrote:
ArcticArsenal wrote:

I didn't like SP too much (seen it twice and still find it boring in parts)

In MY case, the 2 1/2 hours FLEW by! SF by comparison was a chore to get through.

Same for me ajb007/martini

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chrisisall wrote:

In MY case, the 2 1/2 hours FLEW by! SF by comparison was a chore to get through.

Sorry, have to agree  ajb007/shifty

Yep!

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Higgins wrote:
chrisisall wrote:

In MY case, the 2 1/2 hours FLEW by! SF by comparison was a chore to get through.

Sorry, have to agree  ajb007/shifty

Yep!

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chrisisall wrote:
ArcticArsenal wrote:

I didn't like SP too much (seen it twice and still find it boring in parts)

In MY case, the 2 1/2 hours FLEW by! SF by comparison was a chore to get through.

I find it crazy that many find SF boring but I thought SP was one of the biggest disappointments of the year and was bored by the end, a big step back  for Bond. That's after two screenings.
Give me SF over SP any day of the week.

But Craig is awesome as Bond but they need to keep things dark instead of going into Moore type laughs. I expect a big step up if he does one last film.

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ArcticArsenal wrote:

I find it crazy that many find SF boring but I thought SP was one of the biggest disappointments of the year

Never mind that SP has a more cohesive story where the characters make more logical choices, eh? ajb007/bond

But Craig is awesome as Bond but they need to keep things dark

Ohhhh, you're one of THOSE people.
No happy endings for YOU!

ajb007/lol

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ArcticArsenal wrote:

But Craig is awesome as Bond but they need to keep things dark instead of going into Moore type laughs. I expect a big step up if he does one last film.

I take it you don't like Connery's Bond either?

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Matt S wrote:

I take it you don't like Connery's Bond either?

Connery had no angst and ended up with a live girl way too often... ajb007/lol

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Well Sp opened here in NZ today, i went to the first showing in my town at 1030... was the only one there, so had a private viewing (there are only about 6 people who live in NZ!)

I really enjoyed it, sure there are plot holes, the sam smith is music is a bit crap and some of the CGI is a bit obvious, but it had planes, trains and autos, boats, guns, bangs and fights..... do i need to be a film critic to enjoy it? nope, damn good film i say

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Nice!
I live in New Zealand as well. I'm watching it in a few hours! Can't wait.

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