TWINE is another one of those that you could switch off after the PTS (or may be after the theme song) .... If you had to be generous, may be till Bond drives to Azerbaijan (must say the background score was nice in that sequence) and introduces himself to Electra .... Switching off at the point would save you the trouble of watching that ski fight sequence, Jones (and her "radiations levels are low") Renard, the submarine fight, etc. ) .... In b/w all these, it does have a few watchable sequences though such as Bond in casino, Electra's torture machine, etc. but they are probably not that good to make you want to sit through the bad sequences for them
However, TND is fun. It is a sit back and enjoy film in the mold of MR -{
I agree that you could switch off at the PTS..
We can all switch off any film at any time. But I don't for a moment imagine anyone of us here would actually do that to a Bond movie. Not even your least favourite one. If you have actually done than, even once, please delete your AJB007 account immediately, and, as my daughter puts it, "you're not my friend!".
We can all switch off any film at any time. But I don't for a moment imagine anyone of us here would actually do that to a Bond movie. Not even your least favourite one. If you have actually done than, even once, please delete your AJB007 account immediately, and, as my daughter puts it, "you're not my friend!".
I have done that many times to ALL Bond films. I guess it also depends up on how many times you have watched the films, when you are watching a film, how much you find it interesting, its repeat value to you, etc. At times, it could be a choice of watching a little of a film or not at all .... It is NOT possible to watch a movie completely ALL the time .... Let's not forget that at the end of the day, we are humans. Even Bond film makers probably skip films depending up on the variables
You have a daughter. Imagine you are watching a Bond film for the 86th time and she has some urgent work. Will you tell her that "No, come later, I am watching a Bond film?" If you set such comical rules, it would be a tough choice b/w becoming a good father or a good Bond fan. When the truth is that you could be both :007)
We can all switch off any film at any time. But I don't for a moment imagine anyone of us here would actually do that to a Bond movie. Not even your least favourite one. If you have actually done than, even once, please delete your AJB007 account immediately, and, as my daughter puts it, "you're not my friend!".
I have done that many times to ALL Bond films. I guess it also depends up on how many times you have watched the films, when you are watching a film, how much you find it interesting, its repeat value to you, etc. At times, it could be a choice of watching a little of a film or not at all .... It is NOT possible to watch a movie completely ALL the time .... Let's not forget that at the end of the day, we are humans. Even Bond film makers probably skip films depending up on the variables
You have a daughter. Imagine you are watching a Bond film for the 86th time and she has some urgent work. Will you tell her that "No, come later, I am watching a Bond film?" If you set such comical rules, it would be a tough choice b/w becoming a good father or a good Bond fan. When the truth is that you could be both :007)
That's different. I was referring to putting on a movie and then deciding to turn it off because it was boring r otherwise not worth watching. For scenarios like yours I recommend using the "pause" button for short breaks, and for longer ones set your player to "play from the saved position" next time you turn it on. You're welcome!
That's different. I was referring to putting on a movie and then deciding to turn it off because it was boring r otherwise not worth watching. For scenarios like yours I recommend using the "pause" button for short breaks, and for longer ones set your player to "play from the saved position" next time you turn it on. You're welcome!
This has turned in to an interesting topic. Let's stick to the case of a skipping a film or turning it off because if it was boring. Since someone is doing that it is likely that he has purchased the BR. And if he has done that he probably likes the film. And watching a film has its own advantages including re-watching parts you like most and not watching parts that you don't like.
Again, it is NOT possible to like everything in every film ALL the time. Take DAF (or even GE) for e.g. I used to love the film earlier. But find it has not aged that well. However, i still love the first half of the film. Based on your rule, a Bond fan has two choices - a) watch the parts he like or b) not watch it at all because if he watches it he has to watch it completely .... I would rather that he picked the first option
Now let's take your implied condition that if you select part a, you are not a true Bond fan. So by picking b, does it make someone a true Bond fan (ignoring the movie he does not like but only watching the film that he likes completely)? .... On the other hand - A good Bond fan could also be someone who finds something interesting even in the films that he does not rate highly
To summarize, it is NOT possible to like everything about everything ALL the time. If that were the case, there would be no divorces. And people would be working with the same companies all their life :007)
Tomorrow, someone can even come up with a rule saying that a true Bond fan will always have DN at #1 in his ranking. If you don't have that, you are not a true Bond fan, even if according to your rule, you are one because you never skip a Bond movie .... And what about the rule - anyone who see a con in a Bond film is not a true fan. That would leave almost everyone who participated in pros and cons thread as not true fans .... So which rule is right? )
That's different. I was referring to putting on a movie and then deciding to turn it off because it was boring r otherwise not worth watching. For scenarios like yours I recommend using the "pause" button for short breaks, and for longer ones set your player to "play from the saved position" next time you turn it on. You're welcome!
This has turned in to an interesting topic. Let's stick to the case of a skipping a film or turning it off because if it was boring. Since someone is doing that it is likely that he has purchased the BR. And if he has done that he probably likes the film. And watching a film has its own advantages including re-watching parts you like most and not watching parts that you don't like.
Again, it is NOT possible to like everything in every film ALL the time. Take DAF (or even GE) for e.g. I used to love the film earlier. But find it has not aged that well. However, i still love the first half of the film. Based on your rule, a Bond fan has two choices - a) watch the parts he like or b) not watch it at all because if he watches it he has to watch it completely .... I would rather that he picked the first option
Now let's take your implied condition that if you select part a, you are not a true Bond fan. So by picking b, does it make someone a true Bond fan (ignoring the movie he does not like but only watching the film that he likes completely)? .... On the other hand - A good Bond fan could also be someone who finds something interesting even in the films that he does not rate highly
To summarize, it is NOT possible to like everything about everything ALL the time. If that were the case, there would be no divorces. And people would be working with the same companies all their life :007)
Tomorrow, someone can even come up with a rule saying that a true Bond fan will always have DN at #1 in his ranking. If you don't have that, you are not a true Bond fan, even if according to your rule, you are one because you never skip a Bond movie .... And what about the rule - anyone who see a con in a Bond film is not a true fan. That would leave almost everyone who participated in pros and cons thread as not true fans .... So which rule is right? )
Good points! But…
There is a difference between being a Bond fan, being a Timothy Dalton fan, and a being Timothy-Dalton-as-Bond fan (insert any other Bond actor’s name in the example!). This website if for Bond fans, so if you are a Daniel Craig fan and hate Moore and Brosnan, for example, then I wonder why you would be here.
Of course it is not possible to like everything in every film all the time. Bond movies are good, but not THAT good, I’m afraid. But you have to watch a movie to find out which bits are not your favourite, and then you need to re-watch it to check if you are still holding the same opinion. I generally put a Bond movie on because I’m in the mood for it, and I imagine I’m not the only one. Would anyone really buy a movie so that they can occasionally watch the water chase, the bomb planting scene and the bit in which Bond checks into the hotel only? I can understand paying more attention to some bits and then getting up to take the beer out of the fridge during others, but that’s just about it. My point it – if you only watch parts of the movie, you are not watching the whole movie, and therefore you are missing something, even though it may not be your favourite part. You are missing the whole movie experience. Next time try not to skip any bits – I’m sure you will enjoy it! I will add a third choice – if you think a particular film has not aged well, don’t watch it at all. Until you are in the mood for it again. I never said you must watch all the movies equally – you don’t. And when you watch it again, you will be able to see if it really has not aged that well. And, if it hasn’t, you will be able to laugh at the ridiculous bits, point out poor special effects, and so on. It’s still fun! -{
This website if for Bond fans, so if you are a Daniel Craig fan and hate Moore and Brosnan, for example, then I wonder why you would be here.
Exactly.
I belong to no Batman discussion groups because I basically only like Keaton's version. Hence, I am not a fan of the series of movies per se. I also have no novels and only 20 or so comics & graphic novels featuring him. I am a casual fan.
Why go to a Batman site just to bash Nolan's films then?
Can you say 'troll'? )
I have better uses of my time.
Like heaping praise on SPECTRE for one. And Brosnan... )
This website if for Bond fans, so if you are a Daniel Craig fan and hate Moore and Brosnan, for example, then I wonder why you would be here.
Exactly.
I belong to no Batman discussion groups because I basically only like Keaton's version. Hence, I am not a fan of the series of movies per se. I also have no novels and only 20 or so comics & graphic novels featuring him. I am a casual fan.
Why go to a Batman site just to bash Nolan's films then?
Can you say 'troll'? )
I have better uses of my time.
Like heaping praise on SPECTRE for one. And Brosnan... )
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"Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
Bond actors to be re-ranked later
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This website if for Bond fans, so if you are a Daniel Craig fan and hate Moore and Brosnan, for example, then I wonder why you would be here.
Exactly.
Likewise, of course, if (for a further example) you adore Moore or Brosnan and hate Craig And yet we do have a few members who don't seem to like Bond films much at all, which is certainly an interesting phenomenon. Perhaps some hate-site's server's aren't large enough!
I hate no Bond films, nor any Bond actors, although we all have our favourites and the ones we like least. The definition of 'polarizing' would be those who have large camps on either end; in that light SP certainly gets the prize---at least it does right now, while it's still fresh...but the dividing lines seem deep enough that it will stand the test of time )
Aside from that obvious one, I'd have to say TB and YOLT among those from the Connery Era, and LALD and OP from the Moore tenure. There seems a pretty solid split on Brozzer's TWINE.
It can be tricky, though, because our own subjectivity will tend to cloud what we see as unpopular. For example, there is a film I mention above...and I will always be utterly baffled by the affection poured upon it, so I may be in the actual minority in my opinion (although I do read scattered agreements with me from time to time and from place to place), so to me it is polarizing.
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"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
This website if for Bond fans, so if you are a Daniel Craig fan and hate Moore and Brosnan, for example, then I wonder why you would be here.
Exactly.
And yet we do have a few members who don't seem to like Bond films much at all, which is certainly an interesting phenomenon.
I hate no Bond films, nor any Bond actors
Same here. DAF is my least fave Bond film, but I don't hate it, I like to think all EON Bond films have something to be liked or disliked. They are the only films I know of that defy the laws of science, in that they can't be judged the same way other films can be judged.
Outside of Bond, I do have a strong hatred for A Good Day to Die Hard. Now there's an abysmal pile of dung.
As for the Bond actors, I really like all of them. Craig might be my least fave, but I do enjoy watching him as 007 from time to time. I respect that he's taken the series down a different road, although that ended with SP, and even if I'm not as huge on his portayal as others, I can still enjoy it in the right mood.
"Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
Bond actors to be re-ranked later
There is a difference between being a Bond fan, being a Timothy Dalton fan, and a being Timothy-Dalton-as-Bond fan (insert any other Bond actor’s name in the example!). This website if for Bond fans, so if you are a Daniel Craig fan and hate Moore and Brosnan, for example, then I wonder why you would be here.
Of course it is not possible to like everything in every film all the time. Bond movies are good, but not THAT good, I’m afraid. But you have to watch a movie to find out which bits are not your favourite, and then you need to re-watch it to check if you are still holding the same opinion. I generally put a Bond movie on because I’m in the mood for it, and I imagine I’m not the only one. Would anyone really buy a movie so that they can occasionally watch the water chase, the bomb planting scene and the bit in which Bond checks into the hotel only? I can understand paying more attention to some bits and then getting up to take the beer out of the fridge during others, but that’s just about it.
My point it – if you only watch parts of the movie, you are not watching the whole movie, and therefore you are missing something, even though it may not be your favourite part. You are missing the whole movie experience.
Next time try not to skip any bits – I’m sure you will enjoy it! I will add a third choice – if you think a particular film has not aged well, don’t watch it at all.Until you are in the mood for it again. I never said you must watch all the movies equally – you don’t. And when you watch it again, you will be able to see if it really has not aged that well. And, if it hasn’t, you will be able to laugh at the ridiculous bits, point out poor special effects, and so on. It’s still fun! -{
Is that a serious post? ) .... How is re-watching a film, that you have watched for 50 times before completely, equal to missing something when you watch the film for the 51st time in parts or find it boring because you probably aren't in the mood you believed you were in? ..... By watching a film so many times, you probably would have figured out what you like or not. Most people already know what the next dialog is going to be .... Say you buy a huge house. So would you have to go to every room every day to feel you are at home? If you want to watch a movie, you go to the entertainment room. If not you may not go there. It is not like you have to go to the entertainment room even though you don't want to watch a film to get the complete experience of your house, which you already know everything about
Why would you assume that people watch films totally randomly? They watch it because they are in mood for it. And they may discover that the film that they consider as not having aged well in fact has not aged well. But it would still have some interesting parts. And that's why it is a Bond film. So again, there is no harm in just checking out the parts you like rather than ignoring the film completely, imo. And by watching your fav parts (instead of dumb parts), your opinion of the film is likely to improve .... Who knows by watching the fav parts, people could in fact be giving such films a chance to become fav again
I like all Bond actors (Btw Connery and Moore are my fav. Others are equal) .... And even if someone does not like an actor, I am not concerned with it. Just because EON picks an actor to play Bond or makes a movie, it does not mean that every Bond fan will have to like it .... People even criticize some of Fleming's books, along with many of the continuation books. Would you say that they have to like every Bond author / book too? .... So I don't know why you are so concerned with all these? There are many things about the Bond franchise (films, books, ....) that are polarizing ..... There is more to Bond than what meets the eye :007)
You can surely change your mind about a movie - like it first, and then decide it has not aged well. But it's also possible to go the other way - dislike a movie first, and then gradually develop a fondness for it...
You can surely change your mind about a movie - like it first, and then decide it has not aged well. But it's also possible to go the other way - dislike a movie first, and then gradually develop a fondness for it...
. This website if for Bond fans, so if you are a Daniel Craig fan and hate Moore and Brosnan, for example, then I wonder why you would be here.
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And what if you love Brosnan and abhor Craig - doesn't the thing apply to you??
You cant write off peoples views as they don't accord with yours. To be honest the reason we are Bond fans is told excellently in am747s post
And even if someone does not like an actor, I am not concerned with it. Just because EON picks an actor to play Bond or makes a movie, it does not mean that every Bond fan will have to like it .... People even criticize some of Fleming's books, along with many of the continuation books. Would you say that they have to like every Bond author / book too? .... So I don't know why you are so concerned with all these? There are many things about the Bond franchise (films, books, ....) that are polarizing ..... There is more to Bond than what meets the eye
1. For Your Eyes Only 2. The Living Daylights 3 From Russia with Love 4. Casino Royale 5. OHMSS 6. Skyfall
I'm currently watching sky007 when I have the time to...TND I've seen 5 times in the last 3 weeks and still I watched it and not turned it off! why? because I'm a Bond fan!
the same applies to DAF, not my favourite Bond-movie, still I would watch it when it's on.
"You see Mr.Bond, you can't kill my dreams...but my dreams can kill you.Time to face destiny" - "Time to face gravity"
I'm currently watching sky007 when I have the time to... ;% TND I've seen 5 times in the last 3 weeks and still I watched it and not turned it off! why? because I'm a Bond fan!
the same applies to DAF, not my favourite Bond-movie, still I would watch it when it's on.
How is that you watched TND for 5 times but DAF not even once? That is discrimination . .... It is not hard to completely watch a film when it is on once in a while
A fair comparision would be if you had BR for both, and watched them 5 times each in 3 weeks w/o turning off or skipping parts of DAF, not one of your favorite films .... And then keep rotating the films frequently
Until you dont do that your claim for being a Bond fan may not be accepted by all
I'm currently watching sky007 when I have the time to... ;% TND I've seen 5 times in the last 3 weeks and still I watched it and not turned it off! why? because I'm a Bond fan!
the same applies to DAF, not my favourite Bond-movie, still I would watch it when it's on.
How is that you watched TND for 5 times but DAF not even once? That is discrimination . .... It is not hard to completely watch a film when it is on once in a while
A fair comparision would be if you had BR for both, and watched them 5 times each in 3 weeks w/o turning off or skipping parts of DAF, not one of your favorite films .... And then keep rotating the films frequently
Until you dont do that your claim for being a Bond fan may not be accepted by all
I don't really know what you're on to.
I watched DAF a gazillion times since the beginning of october (sky007).
my opinion about the Bond films is that I love them all, and whenever I am able to watch one, I'll do it. So if you forgive me, I think I have the right to call myself a Bond fan, at least more than others who clearly despise half the franchise.
p.s.: I NEVER skip(ed) parts in a Bond movie
"You see Mr.Bond, you can't kill my dreams...but my dreams can kill you.Time to face destiny" - "Time to face gravity"
I don't really know what you're on to.
I watched DAF a gazillion times since the beginning of october (sky007).
my opinion about the Bond films is that I love them all, and whenever I am able to watch one, I'll do it. So if you forgive me, I think I have the right to call myself a Bond fan, at least more than others who clearly despise half the franchise.
p.s.: I NEVER skip(ed) parts in a Bond movie
I am just having some fun at the illogical (and scientifically unproven) notion of not skipping a Bond film = some kind of a certificate of being a Bond fan )
Nice to know that you watched the film a gazillion times since the beginning of Oct. However, the movie has been available since 1971 .... So again its watch-ability will be different for say someone has been watching that film since it came out in cinemas in 1971 vs. someone who has probably just started watching it recently because it happens to come on TV (the film probably is relatively new for you)
nah, I'm watching it since I got the DVD in '02.
couldn't have watched it in '71, at the age of -25
Since some people are so proudly equating the scientifically unproven rule of not skipping a Bond film = a certificate of being a Bond fan. I would not be surprised if another unscientific claim of having watched a Bond film at -whatever age = a certificate of being a Bond fan gets thrown it ) .... (That's how ridiculous such claims sound :007) )
What's next? Watching a Bond film while standing on only one leg = some kind of a certificate
Not being born is no excuse, since we perfected the Einstein-Rosen Bridge, to create
a time worm hole in 2134, it's been so easy to go back and watch anything ! .....
.... Sorry, I may have posted this too early, Crap!
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
Not being born is no excuse, since we perfected the Einstein-Rosen Bridge, to create
a time worm hole in 2134, it's been so easy to go back and watch anything ! .....
.... Sorry, I may have posted this too early, Crap!
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That calls for a new rule that supersedes others - "you are a Bond fan only if you have watched all the Bond films in the year of their release in their original form in cinemas (being not born is not an excuse)"
After all the brainstorming, we finally found a good rule
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We can all switch off any film at any time. But I don't for a moment imagine anyone of us here would actually do that to a Bond movie. Not even your least favourite one. If you have actually done than, even once, please delete your AJB007 account immediately, and, as my daughter puts it, "you're not my friend!".
I have done that many times to ALL Bond films. I guess it also depends up on how many times you have watched the films, when you are watching a film, how much you find it interesting, its repeat value to you, etc. At times, it could be a choice of watching a little of a film or not at all .... It is NOT possible to watch a movie completely ALL the time .... Let's not forget that at the end of the day, we are humans. Even Bond film makers probably skip films depending up on the variables
You have a daughter. Imagine you are watching a Bond film for the 86th time and she has some urgent work. Will you tell her that "No, come later, I am watching a Bond film?" If you set such comical rules, it would be a tough choice b/w becoming a good father or a good Bond fan. When the truth is that you could be both :007)
I never do that to a movie. It's bad form.
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
You Only Live Twice - some like it, others think it's one of Connery's weaker ones
OHMSS - Unlike TB, this one is definitely getting more love, I thinks it's THE marmite Bond film - you either love it or hate it (or dislike it).
Diamonds Are Forever - Again, some like it, others think it's pretty weak or a poor follow up to OHMSS.
Moonraker - Some enjoy it for what it is, others think it's the worst thing on earth.
Octopussy - Some like it as a rather 'simple' Bond film that uses the formula well, others think it's just.....meh.
A View to a Kill - Some love it, some like it, others think it's the worst in the series.
Tomorrow Never Dies - Some think it's a good action film, others think it's a poor Bond film.
Skyfall - Again, some like it, others think it's one of the worst.
That's different. I was referring to putting on a movie and then deciding to turn it off because it was boring r otherwise not worth watching. For scenarios like yours I recommend using the "pause" button for short breaks, and for longer ones set your player to "play from the saved position" next time you turn it on. You're welcome!
This has turned in to an interesting topic. Let's stick to the case of a skipping a film or turning it off because if it was boring. Since someone is doing that it is likely that he has purchased the BR. And if he has done that he probably likes the film. And watching a film has its own advantages including re-watching parts you like most and not watching parts that you don't like.
Again, it is NOT possible to like everything in every film ALL the time. Take DAF (or even GE) for e.g. I used to love the film earlier. But find it has not aged that well. However, i still love the first half of the film. Based on your rule, a Bond fan has two choices - a) watch the parts he like or b) not watch it at all because if he watches it he has to watch it completely .... I would rather that he picked the first option
Now let's take your implied condition that if you select part a, you are not a true Bond fan. So by picking b, does it make someone a true Bond fan (ignoring the movie he does not like but only watching the film that he likes completely)? .... On the other hand - A good Bond fan could also be someone who finds something interesting even in the films that he does not rate highly
To summarize, it is NOT possible to like everything about everything ALL the time. If that were the case, there would be no divorces. And people would be working with the same companies all their life :007)
Tomorrow, someone can even come up with a rule saying that a true Bond fan will always have DN at #1 in his ranking. If you don't have that, you are not a true Bond fan, even if according to your rule, you are one because you never skip a Bond movie .... And what about the rule - anyone who see a con in a Bond film is not a true fan. That would leave almost everyone who participated in pros and cons thread as not true fans .... So which rule is right?
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
Haha as much as I love TLD and Dalton in it, I find LTK really hurts my ranking of Dalton...
"Better make that two."
Good points! But…
There is a difference between being a Bond fan, being a Timothy Dalton fan, and a being Timothy-Dalton-as-Bond fan (insert any other Bond actor’s name in the example!). This website if for Bond fans, so if you are a Daniel Craig fan and hate Moore and Brosnan, for example, then I wonder why you would be here.
Of course it is not possible to like everything in every film all the time. Bond movies are good, but not THAT good, I’m afraid. But you have to watch a movie to find out which bits are not your favourite, and then you need to re-watch it to check if you are still holding the same opinion. I generally put a Bond movie on because I’m in the mood for it, and I imagine I’m not the only one. Would anyone really buy a movie so that they can occasionally watch the water chase, the bomb planting scene and the bit in which Bond checks into the hotel only? I can understand paying more attention to some bits and then getting up to take the beer out of the fridge during others, but that’s just about it. My point it – if you only watch parts of the movie, you are not watching the whole movie, and therefore you are missing something, even though it may not be your favourite part. You are missing the whole movie experience. Next time try not to skip any bits – I’m sure you will enjoy it! I will add a third choice – if you think a particular film has not aged well, don’t watch it at all. Until you are in the mood for it again. I never said you must watch all the movies equally – you don’t. And when you watch it again, you will be able to see if it really has not aged that well. And, if it hasn’t, you will be able to laugh at the ridiculous bits, point out poor special effects, and so on. It’s still fun! -{
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
If I don't like brosnan, I don't like brosnan. Persuade me I am wrong. Convince me of my errors.
I tend to see it as a myriad of viewpoints. Convince me that your way is right, and my way is wrong
I belong to no Batman discussion groups because I basically only like Keaton's version. Hence, I am not a fan of the series of movies per se. I also have no novels and only 20 or so comics & graphic novels featuring him. I am a casual fan.
Why go to a Batman site just to bash Nolan's films then?
Can you say 'troll'?
I have better uses of my time.
Like heaping praise on SPECTRE for one. And Brosnan...
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
Bond actors to be re-ranked later
Likewise, of course, if (for a further example) you adore Moore or Brosnan and hate Craig
I hate no Bond films, nor any Bond actors, although we all have our favourites and the ones we like least. The definition of 'polarizing' would be those who have large camps on either end; in that light SP certainly gets the prize---at least it does right now, while it's still fresh...but the dividing lines seem deep enough that it will stand the test of time
Aside from that obvious one, I'd have to say TB and YOLT among those from the Connery Era, and LALD and OP from the Moore tenure. There seems a pretty solid split on Brozzer's TWINE.
It can be tricky, though, because our own subjectivity will tend to cloud what we see as unpopular. For example, there is a film I mention above...and I will always be utterly baffled by the affection poured upon it, so I may be in the actual minority in my opinion (although I do read scattered agreements with me from time to time and from place to place), so to me it is polarizing.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Same here. DAF is my least fave Bond film, but I don't hate it, I like to think all EON Bond films have something to be liked or disliked. They are the only films I know of that defy the laws of science, in that they can't be judged the same way other films can be judged.
Outside of Bond, I do have a strong hatred for A Good Day to Die Hard. Now there's an abysmal pile of dung.
As for the Bond actors, I really like all of them. Craig might be my least fave, but I do enjoy watching him as 007 from time to time. I respect that he's taken the series down a different road, although that ended with SP, and even if I'm not as huge on his portayal as others, I can still enjoy it in the right mood.
New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
Bond actors to be re-ranked later
Is that a serious post?
Why would you assume that people watch films totally randomly? They watch it because they are in mood for it. And they may discover that the film that they consider as not having aged well in fact has not aged well. But it would still have some interesting parts. And that's why it is a Bond film. So again, there is no harm in just checking out the parts you like rather than ignoring the film completely, imo. And by watching your fav parts (instead of dumb parts), your opinion of the film is likely to improve .... Who knows by watching the fav parts, people could in fact be giving such films a chance to become fav again
I like all Bond actors (Btw Connery and Moore are my fav. Others are equal) .... And even if someone does not like an actor, I am not concerned with it. Just because EON picks an actor to play Bond or makes a movie, it does not mean that every Bond fan will have to like it .... People even criticize some of Fleming's books, along with many of the continuation books. Would you say that they have to like every Bond author / book too? .... So I don't know why you are so concerned with all these? There are many things about the Bond franchise (films, books, ....) that are polarizing ..... There is more to Bond than what meets the eye :007)
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And what if you love Brosnan and abhor Craig - doesn't the thing apply to you??
You cant write off peoples views as they don't accord with yours. To be honest the reason we are Bond fans is told excellently in am747s post
And even if someone does not like an actor, I am not concerned with it. Just because EON picks an actor to play Bond or makes a movie, it does not mean that every Bond fan will have to like it .... People even criticize some of Fleming's books, along with many of the continuation books. Would you say that they have to like every Bond author / book too? .... So I don't know why you are so concerned with all these? There are many things about the Bond franchise (films, books, ....) that are polarizing ..... There is more to Bond than what meets the eye
the same applies to DAF, not my favourite Bond-movie, still I would watch it when it's on.
How is that you watched TND for 5 times but DAF not even once? That is discrimination
A fair comparision would be if you had BR for both, and watched them 5 times each in 3 weeks w/o turning off or skipping parts of DAF, not one of your favorite films
Until you dont do that your claim for being a Bond fan may not be accepted by all
I don't really know what you're on to.
I watched DAF a gazillion times since the beginning of october (sky007).
my opinion about the Bond films is that I love them all, and whenever I am able to watch one, I'll do it. So if you forgive me, I think I have the right to call myself a Bond fan, at least more than others who clearly despise half the franchise.
p.s.: I NEVER skip(ed) parts in a Bond movie
I am just having some fun at the illogical (and scientifically unproven) notion of not skipping a Bond film = some kind of a certificate of being a Bond fan
Nice to know that you watched the film a gazillion times since the beginning of Oct. However, the movie has been available since 1971
couldn't have watched it in '71, at the age of -25
Since some people are so proudly equating the scientifically unproven rule of not skipping a Bond film = a certificate of being a Bond fan. I would not be surprised if another unscientific claim of having watched a Bond film at -whatever age = a certificate of being a Bond fan gets thrown it
What's next? Watching a Bond film while standing on only one leg = some kind of a certificate
a time worm hole in 2134, it's been so easy to go back and watch anything ! .....
.... Sorry, I may have posted this too early, Crap!
That calls for a new rule that supersedes others - "you are a Bond fan only if you have watched all the Bond films in the year of their release in their original form in cinemas (being not born is not an excuse)"
After all the brainstorming, we finally found a good rule
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