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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent

    Of course it is. Look who it elected president twice.

    Yep, unbelievable that GWB got reelected :D
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Immigrants are evil. Muslims are evil. Taxing the rich hurts jobs. War is necessary. Universal health care is a handout. Responsible gun owners can stop crimes. Socialism leads to Communism, and worse.

    My country is sick. :s

    Not to forget that the kids should bring their own firearms at class for their own protection
    And my personal favorite: Gun free zones attract massacres and terrorists :s*


    *What's next? Miniskirts are the main reason for sexual assaults?
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    edited February 2016
    I was just amazed the next vote takes place in Susan Hampshire ! :D
    ( Unless, I heard that wrong )

    Could someone explain why Hilary Clinton is so hated by the right wing
    of the Republican party, over any other Democrat candidate ?
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,766MI6 Agent
    It strikes me that American politics seems more diversified than it used to. I don't know who said: "The US only has one political party, but in their usual extravagant style they have two of it." Only a few decades ago it looks like there was some truth to this, but look at the presidential candidates now: There is quite a distance politically from Ted Cruz to Bernie Sanders. I think this is a positive thing in many ways. The American people get to chose between more real alternatives and the debates should (but not always are) more interesting.
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,989Quartermasters
    Number24 wrote:
    It strikes me that American politics seems more diversified than it used to. I don't know who said: "The US only has one political party, but in their usual extravagant style they have two of it." Only a few decades ago it looks like there was some truth to this, but look at the presidential candidates now: There is quite a distance politically from Ted Cruz to Bernie Sanders. I think this is a positive thing in many ways. The American people get to chose between more real alternatives and the debates should (but not always are) more interesting.

    Indeed! If Cruz and Sanders---each of whom are feared and loathed by the 'establishment' of their respective parties---end up as the nominees, there would certainly be a clear choice with a wide chasm in-between...but the long knives have been pulled from scabbards behind them, and both are Caesar preparing to visit the senate.
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    Could someone explain why Hilary Clinton is so hated by the right wing
    of the Republican party, over any other Democrat candidate ?
    Because she's gotten off the hook for her **** just like some Republicans have, and they feel that they have the corner on that 'right'. :D
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,766MI6 Agent
    This is the reason I don't really want any of the two to win. Well ..... there are a ton of reasons why I don't want Cruz to win, but that's beside the point in this post. Cruz already has experience in stopping Congress from working, and I fear Sanders would have a lot of problems getting finding support there too. The US should get a president who knows how to work the political system and has a policy that has a fair ammount of support in congress and in the populace in general.
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,989Quartermasters
    It's a fascinating primary season. There are more people dissatisfied with the state of affairs in the US than many would like to believe: Trump is a symptom of this, but IMO he is certainly not the solution to it. Nor is more of what we've had, IMO.
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,766MI6 Agent
    I think not only Trump, but also Cruz and Sanders are symptoms of this dissatisfaction. The election looks like it will be very interesting. Trump says he'll run as an independent if he isn't nominated, and it looks like Bloomberg will run as an independent if he does :))

    It's also possible New Hampshire is the beginning of the end for Trump and/or Sanders. If Trump doesn't win, it will be a clear signal the polls and turnout on his rallies doesn't equal actual votes. The (dark :v ) magic will be gone.
    New Hampshire is Sanders' neighbour state, it's liberal and mostly white. It's quite possible he'll see his best results of the election there.
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,989Quartermasters
    Number24 wrote:
    I think not only Trump, but also Cruz and Sanders are symptoms of this dissatisfaction. The election looks like it will be very interesting. Trump says he'll run as an independent if he isn't nominated, and it looks like Bloomberg will run as an independent if he does :))

    It's also possible New Hampshire is the beginning of the end for Trump and/or Sanders. If Trump doesn't win, it will be a clear signal the polls and turnout on his rallies doesn't equal actual votes. The (dark :v ) magic will be gone.
    New Hampshire is Sanders' neighbour state, it's liberal and mostly white. It's quite possible he'll see his best results of the election there.

    Sanders' big challenge will begin with the next one (one of the Carolina's?); he'll be riding high this evening, I have no doubt. On the GOP side, I won't even hazard a guess, except to predict that some of the remaining 'establishment' candidates are probably going to begin to surge today---some 'panic money' is being dropped on them now. If Bush or Rubio come in even second, it will significantly shuffle the conditions of the election.
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,766MI6 Agent
    This is deeply worrying, Loeffelholz. Us agreeing in several posts about American politics! :o
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,989Quartermasters
    Number24 wrote:
    This is deeply worrying, Loeffelholz. Us agreeing in several posts about American politics! :o

    We're not really agreeing :v :)) I can talk 'tactics and strategy' all day. If we can keep this thread to that, there's no problem on my end. I've already set aside Random Chat and Rant Box for political mud-slinging (I don't even look at those threads anymore), and would prefer for it to stay there. A guy can dream -{
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    The US should get a president who knows how to work the political system and has a policy that has a fair ammount of support in congress and in the populace in general.
    That would doom us to simply more of the same IMO.
    Bernie is a progressive and a fighter. If he had the stage, he could expose the truth to MORE Americans (how they're being screwed by corporate interests that basically own the preponderance of politicians). Sadly, this could also make him a target for assassination because they have so much to lose if he gets elected. :#
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,989Quartermasters
    If Bernie gets the nomination, he'll need to pick his VP candidate carefully...he's not a kid anymore. I say this because it always comes up whenever a candidate over 70 years old runs for the office. Reagan, Dole, McCain, etc all faced this, and arguably it applies to Hillary and Trump (he's 69?) as well. We haven't had a president die of natural causes in office for quite a long time; from an actuarial standpoint, its statistical likelihood is always on the table.
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,766MI6 Agent
    I think Bernie would pick a VP who is younger (and most politicians are younger than him :D ). I guess he would pick someone who isn't white, since his support among non-whites is weak. He polls fairely well among women and very well among young people, so that is less of a worry for him. Speaking of worries - if Trump gets nominated I fear he will pick Sarah Palin. :# :# :o :( :# :o :o :o :o
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,989Quartermasters
    Number24 wrote:
    I think Bernie would pick a VP who is younger (and most politicians are younger than him :D ). I guess he would pick someone who isn't white, since his support among non-whites is weak. He polls fairely well among women and very well among young people, so that is less of a worry for him. Speaking of worries - if Trump gets nominated I fear he will pick Sarah Palin. :# :# :o :( :# :o :o :o :o

    Nah, she's radioactive. After her speech, he probably regrets bringing her on.
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,766MI6 Agent
    I hope I'm very wrong about that. Now I have to go offline. thanks for an interesting talk. Let's do it again tomorrow after the results are in :)
  • cheldcheld Posts: 300MI6 Agent
    Yes, Wall St. owns US politics, hence why it's interesting to see Bernie on a crusade for the less priviledged in the US.

    Sanders weakened his Senate version of a House-passed "Audit The Federal Reserve" provision, basically caving in to the big banks. Bernie talks a good game but when push came to shove he backed down.
  • cheldcheld Posts: 300MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:

    Not to forget that the kids should bring their own firearms at class for their own protection

    How many school shootings were there when kids could take marksmanship classes?
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    If I have to explain you how wrong this idea is ( kids bringing firearms to classes) you will not understand - no matter how much I try.
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    cheld wrote:
    Sanders weakened his Senate version of a House-passed "Audit The Federal Reserve" provision, basically caving in to the big banks. Bernie talks a good game but when push came to shove he backed down.
    No, he folded a bit to get at least SOME of it (rather than NONE of it) through. That's called playing the game.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I see it was a good night for Trump and Sanders. :)
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    no, it was a good night for me :D
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    ...... Meaning a bad night for everyone else ? :D
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    :)) :))
    not for the wife

    :)) :))
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :))
    Yes, I think all our sympathies are with Mrs Higgins.
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,989Quartermasters
    Went as I imagined for Sanders...much is being made of the margin of victory (which I'm happy about - a humiliated Hillary makes me feel warm inside. May it continue, please). On the GOP side, the 2nd and 3rd place finishes of Kasich(?!) and Bush (?!?), respectively, are the real story, IMO. Christie is expected to quit soon.
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  • The Domino EffectThe Domino Effect Posts: 3,631MI6 Agent
    Christie, Fiorina and Carson need to quit quickly so that the Republicans can move away from an 8-ring circus and on to a 5-ring circus and hopefully soon, a 2 or 3 horse race.
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,989Quartermasters
    Christie, Fiorina and Carson need to quit quickly so that the Republicans can move away from an 8-ring circus and on to a 5-ring circus and hopefully soon, a 2 or 3 horse race.

    Yeah...all 3 are basically running for veep now anyway.
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,766MI6 Agent
    A bad night for the establishments of both parties. There is some hope for Clinton since she will probably do better more racially diversified states further south, but it looks like Sanders will be a contender for some time yet. Hillary simply lacks her husband's ability to excite the public, and scandals like her e-mails and Benghasi are probably hurting her.

    Kash ... Kish ... Kich ..... (googles ......) Kasich is the new establishment hopefull in the GOP. To be honest I know next to nothing about this man. Let's see what he does with the attention I gets at the moment, since Rubio blew it after Iowa.
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