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  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    I can't agree with an article that places LTK above TLD.

    Agreed.

    IMO TLD is a more classic Bond film, with all the right elements brilliantly all put together. While it may be slightly unoriginal (in terms of the feel of "churning out in the 80s"), it's certainly a better production than LTK.

    LTK has quite a bit going for it, and I admire the film - but it just doesn't feel as polished.
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    I can't agree with an article that places LTK above TLD.

    Agreed.

    IMO TLD is a more classic Bond film, with all the right elements brilliantly all put together. While it may be slightly unoriginal (in terms of the feel of "churning out in the 80s"), it's certainly a better production than LTK.

    LTK has quite a bit going for it, and I admire the film - but it just doesn't feel as polished.
    I must also concur.
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    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • superadosuperado Regent's Park West (CaliforniaPosts: 2,651MI6 Agent
    Both movies are so different and I love them both for those differences.
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    superado wrote:
    Both movies are so different and I love them both for those differences.
    Virtual hug, man! -{
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • superadosuperado Regent's Park West (CaliforniaPosts: 2,651MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    superado wrote:
    Both movies are so different and I love them both for those differences.
    Virtual hug, man! -{

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    "...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,239MI6 Agent
    Back to the pipeline thing. I mean, someone has said I should have researched it after I saw it.

    Now this film came out in 1987, before the invention of the internet. So to research this thing, assuming I could be motivated anyway, I'd have to head along to my library and ask if they had any books on the subject, or maybe look up on a microfiche or whatever it is, one of the newspapers for the last few years.

    You could not know about Fort Knox as a kid, but Mr Goldfinger helpfully explains it to you in the film.

    Furthermore, since TLD - and perhaps I've led a sheltered existence - I have seen and read nothing whatsoever about this pipeline. Maybe there was that thing about Putin turning it off in revenge for interference in Ukraine. Might that be the same one? But all the same I've never seen a photo of it anywhere at all in any newspaper, and I don't restrict myself to the red tops. So is it mythical, just as Ken Adam's design of Fort Knox was?
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  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,646MI6 Agent
    Back to the pipeline thing. I mean, someone has said I should have researched it after I saw it.

    Now this film came out in 1987, before the invention of the internet. So to research this thing, assuming I could be motivated anyway, I'd have to head along to my library and ask if they had any books on the subject, or maybe look up on a microfiche or whatever it is, one of the newspapers for the last few years.

    You could not know about Fort Knox as a kid, but Mr Goldfinger helpfully explains it to you in the film.

    Furthermore, since TLD - and perhaps I've led a sheltered existence - I have seen and read nothing whatsoever about this pipeline. Maybe there was that thing about Putin turning it off in revenge for interference in Ukraine. Might that be the same one? But all the same I've never seen a photo of it anywhere at all in any newspaper, and I don't restrict myself to the red tops. So is it mythical, just as Ken Adam's design of Fort Knox was?

    Well here's a link on the pipeline that I posted above:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urengoy%E2%80%93Pomary%E2%80%93Uzhgorod_pipeline
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  • MarcAngeDracoMarcAngeDraco Piz GloriaPosts: 564MI6 Agent
    Back to the pipeline thing. I mean, someone has said I should have researched it after I saw it.

    Now this film came out in 1987, before the invention of the internet. So to research this thing, assuming I could be motivated anyway, I'd have to head along to my library and ask if they had any books on the subject, or maybe look up on a microfiche or whatever it is, one of the newspapers for the last few years.

    You could not know about Fort Knox as a kid, but Mr Goldfinger helpfully explains it to you in the film.

    Furthermore, since TLD - and perhaps I've led a sheltered existence - I have seen and read nothing whatsoever about this pipeline. Maybe there was that thing about Putin turning it off in revenge for interference in Ukraine. Might that be the same one? But all the same I've never seen a photo of it anywhere at all in any newspaper, and I don't restrict myself to the red tops. So is it mythical, just as Ken Adam's design of Fort Knox was?

    With all due respect, it seems as though you're mistaking the film's shortcomings with your own shortcomings - that being curiosity and patience. Personally, when I watch a film and don't understand something/something catches my attention, I always seek out to know more about it. But that's just me.

    One could argue that the difference between Goldfinger and The Living Daylights is the targeted audience. I'd say TLD is targeted at a more adult audience, whereas GF is more family friendly, hence more inclined to explain everything.
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  • PeppermillPeppermill DelftPosts: 2,860MI6 Agent
    The only problem I have with the pipeline is the fact that somewhere along the way it makes a hard 90 degree bend that the pig couldn't make in any way. So Koskov should still be stuck in that bend in the pig.
    bend.jpg
    1. Ohmss 2. Frwl 3. Op 4. Tswlm 5. Tld 6. Ge 7. Yolt 8. Lald 9. Cr 10. Ltk 11. Dn 12. Gf 13. Qos 14. Mr 15. Tmwtgg 16. Fyeo 17. Twine 18. Sf 19. Tb 20 Tnd 21. Spectre 22 Daf 23. Avtak 24. Dad
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Perhaps it's a matter of perspective ? :D
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Back to the pipeline thing. I mean, someone has said I should have researched it after I saw it.

    Now this film came out in 1987, before the invention of the internet. So to research this thing, assuming I could be motivated anyway, I'd have to head along to my library and ask if they had any books on the subject, or maybe look up on a microfiche or whatever it is, one of the newspapers for the last few years.

    You could not know about Fort Knox as a kid, but Mr Goldfinger helpfully explains it to you in the film.

    Furthermore, since TLD - and perhaps I've led a sheltered existence - I have seen and read nothing whatsoever about this pipeline. Maybe there was that thing about Putin turning it off in revenge for interference in Ukraine. Might that be the same one? But all the same I've never seen a photo of it anywhere at all in any newspaper, and I don't restrict myself to the red tops. So is it mythical, just as Ken Adam's design of Fort Knox was?

    With all due respect, it seems as though you're mistaking the film's shortcomings with your own shortcomings - that being curiosity and patience. Personally, when I watch a film and don't understand something/something catches my attention, I always seek out to know more about it. But that's just me.

    One could argue that the difference between Goldfinger and The Living Daylights is the targeted audience. I'd say TLD is targeted at a more adult audience, whereas GF is more family friendly, hence more inclined to explain everything.

    I concur. I also think the pipeline is explained enough in the film. "Great Soviet achievement. Piping natural gas into western Europe." What else do we need to know? The pig is explained as well. It all makes perfect sense within the film without the need to research.
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  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Back to the pipeline thing. I mean, someone has said I should have researched it after I saw it.

    Now this film came out in 1987, before the invention of the internet. So to research this thing, assuming I could be motivated anyway, I'd have to head along to my library and ask if they had any books on the subject, or maybe look up on a microfiche or whatever it is, one of the newspapers for the last few years.

    You could not know about Fort Knox as a kid, but Mr Goldfinger helpfully explains it to you in the film.

    Furthermore, since TLD - and perhaps I've led a sheltered existence - I have seen and read nothing whatsoever about this pipeline. Maybe there was that thing about Putin turning it off in revenge for interference in Ukraine. Might that be the same one? But all the same I've never seen a photo of it anywhere at all in any newspaper, and I don't restrict myself to the red tops. So is it mythical, just as Ken Adam's design of Fort Knox was?

    With all due respect, it seems as though you're mistaking the film's shortcomings with your own shortcomings - that being curiosity and patience. Personally, when I watch a film and don't understand something/something catches my attention, I always seek out to know more about it. But that's just me.

    One could argue that the difference between Goldfinger and The Living Daylights is the targeted audience. I'd say TLD is targeted at a more adult audience, whereas GF is more family friendly, hence more inclined to explain everything.

    I concur. I also think the pipeline is explained enough in the film. "Great Soviet achievement. Piping natural gas into western Europe." What else do we need to know? The pig is explained as well. It all makes perfect sense within the film without the need to research.

    Agreed. Plus, it's a very minor plot point really, isn't it? Unlike Fort Knox, which is the finale of the film.

    Agree with Peppermill, lol, that pipeline model is terrible! Little Niggle! :))
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

    "Better make that two."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    edited April 2016
    Agree with Peppermill, lol, that pipeline model is terrible! Little Niggle! :))
    That nearly right angle turn is what makes borscht out of you if you're not wearing the seat belt! :D
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    It's called borscht. It's the food of my ancestors!
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,059Chief of Staff
    ...and Bride Of Barbel makes a lovely version! :x
  • MarcAngeDracoMarcAngeDraco Piz GloriaPosts: 564MI6 Agent
    Peppermill wrote:
    The only problem I have with the pipeline is the fact that somewhere along the way it makes a hard 90 degree bend that the pig couldn't make in any way. So Koskov should still be stuck in that bend in the pig.
    bend.jpg

    Ha yes! I always wondered if the capsule was flexible at the centre. :))
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