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Good notice on the heart rate thing canoe2! That really adds a depth to that scene I never noticed. It was also a missed opportunity by the crew to increase the image of Bond as a really in shape dude. Great catch man!

Here is a group of pics from that scene from the BAMF style article that includes the pic drum007 posted:


http://s33.postimg.cc/7qu839acb/image.jpg

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With the chukka boots in the mix, this outfit and the Haiti outfit in QOS are almost identical, minus the pants color and shirt color.

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Since plotwise QoS was supposed to follow directly after CR (hours apart?), I like to think that the Sunspel/Bahamas outfit and the Haiti oufit are supposed to be the same clothes. Basically, Bond didn't have time to unpack, but his jeans were magically tailored to fit better while in his suitcase  ajb007/biggrin

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canoe2 wrote:

Since plotwise QoS was supposed to follow directly after CR (hours apart?), I like to think that the Sunspel/Bahamas outfit and the Haiti oufit are supposed to be the same clothes. Basically, Bond didn't have time to unpack, but his jeans were magically tailored to fit better while in his suitcase  ajb007/biggrin

Sort of in the same way that the Brioni 3 piece end scene suit in CR is the same as the TF PTS suit in QOS. I guess he was hot and took off the vest after shoving Mr. White in the trunk!

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Thanks Jb and C2 for the ID on the footwear, I swear in one shot in the villa when he's talking to M they look like some sort of sandal! I've got chukkas coming out of my ears so definitely dont need any more.
Maybe bonds heart rate is up after the chopper flight?  From miami?

It was either that.....or the priesthood

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canoe2 wrote:

Another interesting thing: is anyone else surprised that Bond's "calm" heart rate is up around 64-65 bpms? I know he was casually walking around for a few minutes and he did just find out Solange died, but I still would have pegged him at low 50s seeing he's in such great shape  ajb007/amazed  ajb007/lol

caused by eating too much red meat and white bread and too many dry martinis!

"I'm afraid I'm a complicated woman. "
"- That is something to be afraid of."

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I stand corrected!

For me loafers are a good choice also for this outfit.

Regarding the heart rate, Bond is a drinker! ajb007/martini  ajb007/martini  ajb007/martini

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The heart rate thing is a great spot. Never thought twice about it before.

Is Bond really supposed to be the perfect picture of health though? I think in many previous movies (and books) Bond is portrayed as a bit of a chancer with his physical and mental well-being. Drinking ridiculous amounts, smoking too much, irregular sleeping patterns, extremely stressful job, unresolved childhood trauma, chip on his shoulder.. ajb007/lol

Yes he's in great shape, but remember the scene in Spectre when he's asked if he exercises at the Hoffler Klinik, he replies when he needs to. Suggesting he's not very health conscious at all and if he had another profession he would definitely not be bothering with the gym. It's more a case of Bond doing the bare minimum he can get away with. I don't get the sense that a retired Bond (i.e. the Enjoying Death Bond) would be going for daily runs on the beach and morning yoga sessions.  ajb007/lol

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HildebrandRarity wrote:

Yes he's in great shape, but remember the scene in Spectre when he's asked if he exercises at the Hoffler Klinik, he replies when he needs to. Suggesting he's not very health conscious at all and if he had another profession he would definitely not be bothering with the gym. It's more a case of Bond doing the bare minimum he can get away with.

I also do the bare minimum I can get away with, but I certainly don't have a body like Craig's Bond;-)

I love the fact that the brown chukka boots are a consistent feature of Bond's outfits. It helps the Budget Bond buyer as we can pair many outfits with the one pair of boots. But it also adds an air of realism - suitcases only carry so much so he has a limited wardrobe when he is on mission (up to Spectre anyway with his seemingly bottomless luggage!)

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HildebrandRarity wrote:

remember the scene in Spectre when he's asked if he exercises at the Hoffler Klinik, he replies when he needs to. Suggesting he's not very health conscious at all

plus one of my favorite lines in Spectre in relation to the prolytic digestive enzyme shake...  ajb007/lol

"I'm afraid I'm a complicated woman. "
"- That is something to be afraid of."

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Alternative to the Canada Goose jacket worn by DC.

https://www.jcrew.com/uk/p/mens_categor … cket/C9530

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007: That would be one way of looking at it .

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Ornithologist wrote:
HildebrandRarity wrote:

remember the scene in Spectre when he's asked if he exercises at the Hoffler Klinik, he replies when he needs to. Suggesting he's not very health conscious at all

plus one of my favorite lines in Spectre in relation to the prolytic digestive enzyme shake...  ajb007/lol

I thought he meant the 6 months, 8 hours a day in the gym when getting ready for another Bond movie ajb007/lol

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Very interesting stuff about the hear rate being up because he drinks, smokes, doesn't sleep, and generally doesn't care about his body except as a tool to get the job done. This idea is very inline with the literary Bond, so I like that theory a lot. That is one thing I don't like about Craig's Bond, the fact that he is so bulky. They can portray him as having a haphazard approach to health and exercise all they want, but he is clearly a gym rat. And, I'm fine with him being a gym rat, but I would rather see him own up to it then. The literary Bond seemed to prefer calisthenic type exercise that he could do on the fly wherever he was; this makes the most sense for his lifestyle. I can't see him having the time to keep up his gym rat ways while on mission. And, in Skyfall they tried to say he was down and out and out of shape, but the man still had impeccable muscle tone. He would not have gotten out of breath from those pull-ups with a body like that. Would have been nice to see him more withered. This has always been a discontinuity issue that has bothered me with Craig. The exact opposite issue is with Moore and how he looked completely incapable of action for his last few movies.

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Chriscoop wrote:

Thanks Jb and C2 for the ID on the footwear, I swear in one shot in the villa when he's talking to M they look like some sort of sandal! I've got chukkas coming out of my ears so definitely dont need any more.

You are most welcome Chriscoop. I can agree that I too have more chukkas than I know what to do with!  ajb007/lol if you like tan loafers with that outfit, Brosnan wore a pair in DAD, as detailed at:

http://thesuitsofjamesbond.com/the-tan-linen-suit/


http://s33.postimg.cc/63jlu6nrv/image.jpg

Also, I haven't really looked into the validity of this yet, but the shoes were apparently signed by Broz and sold:


http://s33.postimg.cc/gt6xxava3/image.jpg

They look like they could be the real deal. The are pretty cool looking shoes with the mesh and all.  ajb007/martini

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Those shoes look like something you'd see brought in on Pawn Stars and they'd have Steve Grad come in to authenticate them.  ajb007/smile

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IA-SteveB wrote:

Those shoes look like something you'd see brought in on Pawn Stars and they'd have Steve Grad come in to authenticate them.  ajb007/smile

ajb007/lol you ain't kiddin'! Here is the link:

http://entertainment.ha.com/itm/movie-t … 92-89189.s

Maybe Matt S could weigh in on this if he is watching.

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James Brosnan wrote:
IA-SteveB wrote:

Those shoes look like something you'd see brought in on Pawn Stars and they'd have Steve Grad come in to authenticate them.  ajb007/smile

ajb007/lol you ain't kiddin'! Here is the link:

http://entertainment.ha.com/itm/movie-t … 92-89189.s

Maybe Matt S could weigh in on this if he is watching.

Those look like they definitely could be the shoes! I'll update my article. The perforated leather must be very comfortable in Cuba. Now I need to have a look to see if Brosnan wears socks or not with there. I don't recall being able to tell from the film. These are the kind of shoes that are best sockless.

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James Brosnan wrote:
Chriscoop wrote:

Thanks Jb and C2 for the ID on the footwear, I swear in one shot in the villa when he's talking to M they look like some sort of sandal! I've got chukkas coming out of my ears so definitely dont need any more.

You are most welcome Chriscoop. I can agree that I too have more chukkas than I know what to do with!  ajb007/lol if you like tan loafers with that outfit, Brosnan wore a pair in DAD, as detailed at:

http://thesuitsofjamesbond.com/the-tan-linen-suit/


http://s33.postimg.cc/63jlu6nrv/image.jpg

Also, I haven't really looked into the validity of this yet, but the shoes were apparently signed by Broz and sold:


http://s33.postimg.cc/gt6xxava3/image.jpg

They look like they could be the real deal. The are pretty cool looking shoes with the mesh and all.  ajb007/martini

I refer a lot to Matt's excellent site, he does a great job,
With regards the sandals, I was looking for some alternative summer footwear to wear with some mink linen trousers during the day, I know SC wore some in tb but tbh they're just a bit too sandaly, Ive never owned a pair of sandals,  as I thought DC wore some in CR it would kind of validate it for me  ajb007/biggrin
I think I'll just update my flip flops with some leather ones.
I've actually bought some dark tan double monks to pair up with the linen trousers and midnight blue shirt for evening.
The summer wardrobe is coming on great!  ajb007/martini

It was either that.....or the priesthood

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The next question is what brand are those loafers? The tag on the soles is only partially visible.

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James Brosnan wrote:

Very interesting stuff about the hear rate being up because he drinks, smokes, doesn't sleep, and generally doesn't care about his body except as a tool to get the job done. This idea is very inline with the literary Bond, so I like that theory a lot. That is one thing I don't like about Craig's Bond, the fact that he is so bulky. They can portray him as having a haphazard approach to health and exercise all they want, but he is clearly a gym rat. And, I'm fine with him being a gym rat, but I would rather see him own up to it then. The literary Bond seemed to prefer calisthenic type exercise that he could do on the fly wherever he was; this makes the most sense for his lifestyle. I can't see him having the time to keep up his gym rat ways while on mission. And, in Skyfall they tried to say he was down and out and out of shape, but the man still had impeccable muscle tone. He would not have gotten out of breath from those pull-ups with a body like that. Would have been nice to see him more withered. This has always been a discontinuity issue that has bothered me with Craig. The exact opposite issue is with Moore and how he looked completely incapable of action for his last few movies.

FYI you can still have muscle tone and not be fit.

If Bond stopped working out for 3 months (after his disappearance in Skyfall), drank lots of beer and did very little or no cardio, he wouldn't lose too much of his muscle tone, but he would not be fit. So I'm not surprised he was so out of shape as portrayed in SF.

I used to work out on a regular basis for years. I would keep my muscles but lose my overall level of fitness quickly if I did not keep working out. I've been asked before if I work out when I hadn't been in the gym in six months. When I did go back I was amazed at how much weaker I had become and how quickly I would get winded just from that break in activities.

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Bond: “I must be dreaming.”

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Westward_Drift wrote:

The next question is what brand are those loafers? The tag on the soles is only partially visible.

The site says Stemar. And, the shoes still exist!

http://www.stemarshoes.com/stemar-lipari/pid-467.html

But not in the SA color.

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James Brosnan wrote:
Westward_Drift wrote:

The next question is what brand are those loafers? The tag on the soles is only partially visible.

The site says Stemar. And, the shoes still exist!

http://www.stemarshoes.com/stemar-lipari/pid-467.html

But not in the SA color.

Thanks, James Brosnan.  ajb007/cheers

Hard to tell from the pics, but is looks like the soles/treads have changed. What little I can see from the SA pic it looks like a normal leather loafer sole, but the rubber treads on the Stemar site look more appropriate for driving shoes.

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Wow, I didn't think a casual observation about Bond's heart rate would be that interesting!  ajb007/heart

Great job nailing down those  DAD mocs, James Brosnan!  ajb007/cheers

Teenage Bond: that J.Crew could also be a good match for the Craig Gerry jacket that TheExit148 ID'd a while back.

http://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/814131/#p814131

I had my wisdom teeth removed on Monday, so I've been a little out of it for the last couple of days. But I hope to have some new stuff published by the end of the week. By the sounds of things here, no one is desperate for alternatives to the CR brown suede chukkas, so I'll put those on the back burner for a while.  ajb007/lol

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Enjoying Death wrote:
James Brosnan wrote:

Very interesting stuff about the hear rate being up because he drinks, smokes, doesn't sleep, and generally doesn't care about his body except as a tool to get the job done. This idea is very inline with the literary Bond, so I like that theory a lot. That is one thing I don't like about Craig's Bond, the fact that he is so bulky. They can portray him as having a haphazard approach to health and exercise all they want, but he is clearly a gym rat. And, I'm fine with him being a gym rat, but I would rather see him own up to it then. The literary Bond seemed to prefer calisthenic type exercise that he could do on the fly wherever he was; this makes the most sense for his lifestyle. I can't see him having the time to keep up his gym rat ways while on mission. And, in Skyfall they tried to say he was down and out and out of shape, but the man still had impeccable muscle tone. He would not have gotten out of breath from those pull-ups with a body like that. Would have been nice to see him more withered. This has always been a discontinuity issue that has bothered me with Craig. The exact opposite issue is with Moore and how he looked completely incapable of action for his last few movies.



FYI you can still have muscle tone and not be fit.

If Bond stopped working out for 3 months (after his disappearance in Skyfall), drank lots of beer and did very little or no cardio, he wouldn't lose too much of his muscle tone, but he would not be fit. So I'm not surprised he was so out of shape as portrayed in SF.

I used to work out on a regular basis for years. I would keep my muscles but lose my overall level of fitness quickly if I did not keep working out. I've been asked before if I work out when I hadn't been in the gym in six months. When I did go back I was amazed at how much weaker I had become and how quickly I would get winded just from that break in activities.

Good point man. I felt kind of stupid after making the comment to. E honest. I use to work out years ago, but do not work out to any capacity anymore, something I need to change. But, people still ask me all the time if I've been lifting because I'll look bigger just from a weekend of swimming or heavy lifting during home remodeling or something. It's that damn muscle memory, you always appear tone. I would be interested to know how much Craig stopped working out, if at all for those scenes in Skyfall that he was suppose to have been out of shape for a few months. My sense is that he did not stop working out, but I could be wrong because, your right, muscles like that don't go away in a few months. Thanks for keeping me honest on that one  ajb007/martini

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James Brosnan wrote:
Enjoying Death wrote:
James Brosnan wrote:

Very interesting stuff about the hear rate being up because he drinks, smokes, doesn't sleep, and generally doesn't care about his body except as a tool to get the job done. This idea is very inline with the literary Bond, so I like that theory a lot. That is one thing I don't like about Craig's Bond, the fact that he is so bulky. They can portray him as having a haphazard approach to health and exercise all they want, but he is clearly a gym rat. And, I'm fine with him being a gym rat, but I would rather see him own up to it then. The literary Bond seemed to prefer calisthenic type exercise that he could do on the fly wherever he was; this makes the most sense for his lifestyle. I can't see him having the time to keep up his gym rat ways while on mission. And, in Skyfall they tried to say he was down and out and out of shape, but the man still had impeccable muscle tone. He would not have gotten out of breath from those pull-ups with a body like that. Would have been nice to see him more withered. This has always been a discontinuity issue that has bothered me with Craig. The exact opposite issue is with Moore and how he looked completely incapable of action for his last few movies.



FYI you can still have muscle tone and not be fit.

If Bond stopped working out for 3 months (after his disappearance in Skyfall), drank lots of beer and did very little or no cardio, he wouldn't lose too much of his muscle tone, but he would not be fit. So I'm not surprised he was so out of shape as portrayed in SF.

I used to work out on a regular basis for years. I would keep my muscles but lose my overall level of fitness quickly if I did not keep working out. I've been asked before if I work out when I hadn't been in the gym in six months. When I did go back I was amazed at how much weaker I had become and how quickly I would get winded just from that break in activities.

Good point man. I felt kind of stupid after making the comment to. E honest. I use to work out years ago, but do not work out to any capacity anymore, something I need to change. But, people still ask me all the time if I've been lifting because I'll look bigger just from a weekend of swimming or heavy lifting during home remodeling or something. It's that damn muscle memory, you always appear tone. I would be interested to know how much Craig stopped working out, if at all for those scenes in Skyfall that he was suppose to have been out of shape for a few months. My sense is that he did not stop working out, but I could be wrong because, your right, muscles like that don't go away in a few months. Thanks for keeping me honest on that one  ajb007/martini

No worries mate. I did not intend to make you feel stupid lol.  ajb007/martini

Pussy Galore: “My name is Pussy Galore.”
Bond: “I must be dreaming.”