For Your Eyes Only Appreciation

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  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,673MI6 Agent
    It's amazing EON never seem to be able to get away from the courts.

    Everyone wants a piece of the film Bond pie I guess. :D
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  • James SuzukiJames Suzuki New ZealandPosts: 2,406MI6 Agent
    It's amazing EON never seem to be able to get away from the courts.

    Everyone wants a piece of the film Bond pie I guess. :D
    Quite right! The just the title alone, James Bond, ensures a success at the box office.
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  • Rainier WolfcastleRainier Wolfcastle Posts: 484MI6 Agent
    But as the copyright for Fleming's works (not just FYEO but ALL his novels and short stories) has expired in Canada they have every right to make a film or even a tv series if they can find investors. There's no way Eon would win a case should they even try to sue. Eon could only do something against screenings of the film in other countries or if the Canadians would try to sell DVDs outside Canada.
    Eon better is getting used to this situation - in 20 to 25 years (70 to 75 years after the death of the author) "James Bond 007" will be in the public domain worldwide. And just like with Sherlock Holmes or The Three Musketeers, everyone will be able to make a James Bond film or tv series.
  • am747am747 Posts: 720MI6 Agent
    edited December 2015
    Interesting developments .... Competition is usually good esp. if someone like Tom Cruise tried his hand at making a Bond film. For e.g. by taking the characters from MI-5 - Baldwin as M, Benji as Q, Luther as Leiter, an interesting film can be made. Or if Spielberg could something with Bond like he did with Indiana Jones

    On the other hand, if someone like Cubby was still at EON, I would have been a little sad at anyone else using Bond's name. The pioneers (Fleming, Chubby, Barry, etc.) are gone now so might as well see if others can also create that kind of magic on screen ..... Last time, two Bond films competed (OP and NASA), they both did well at the BO :)

    PS I can visualize Brosnan making a Bond film on his own. May be an older Bond coming out of retirement to fight a villain from his past :))
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    But as the copyright for Fleming's works (not just FYEO but ALL his novels and short stories) has expired in Canada they have every right to make a film or even a tv series if they can find investors. There's no way Eon would win a case should they even try to sue. Eon could only do something against screenings of the film in other countries or if the Canadians would try to sell DVDs outside Canada.
    Eon better is getting used to this situation - in 20 to 25 years (70 to 75 years after the death of the author) "James Bond 007" will be in the public domain worldwide. And just like with Sherlock Holmes or The Three Musketeers, everyone will be able to make a James Bond film or tv series.

    What am I going to say spells disaster.

    James up for grabs, Everyone taking a spin. You can imagine every two bit studio giving it a try. The reason Bond has worked for forty years is that it has been led by one studio who have generally made it well. The more Bond pictures means dilution of the brand

    Of course eon might still be making the Bonds, which might work. They are fierce litigators.
    1. For Your Eyes Only 2. The Living Daylights 3 From Russia with Love 4. Casino Royale 5. OHMSS 6. Skyfall
  • HatThrowingHenchmanHatThrowingHenchman Russia With LovePosts: 1,834MI6 Agent
    But as the copyright for Fleming's works (not just FYEO but ALL his novels and short stories) has expired in Canada they have every right to make a film or even a tv series if they can find investors. There's no way Eon would win a case should they even try to sue. Eon could only do something against screenings of the film in other countries or if the Canadians would try to sell DVDs outside Canada.
    Eon better is getting used to this situation - in 20 to 25 years (70 to 75 years after the death of the author) "James Bond 007" will be in the public domain worldwide. And just like with Sherlock Holmes or The Three Musketeers, everyone will be able to make a James Bond film or tv series.

    you're scenario would definitely be the end of Bond!
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  • am747am747 Posts: 720MI6 Agent
    edited December 2015

    What am I going to say spells disaster.

    James up for grabs, Everyone taking a spin. You can imagine every two bit studio giving it a try. The reason Bond has worked for forty years is that it has been led by one studio who have generally made it well. The more Bond pictures means dilution of the brand

    Of course eon might still be making the Bonds, which might work. They are fierce litigators.

    Not necessarily. Bond would be up for grabs and many dumb films will be made but they would not necessarily be successful at the BO. Esp. when they could be competing with big budget well thought out films from major studios and EON .... Eventually, only the fittest would survive .... Look at the brighter side as well, may be there could be better films made than GE, TWINE, DAD, QoS, etc. It is not like EON has always made great films :)
  • Rainier WolfcastleRainier Wolfcastle Posts: 484MI6 Agent
    Can't be much worse than Daniel Craig as Bond, can it? {:)
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    But as the copyright for Fleming's works (not just FYEO but ALL his novels and short stories) has expired in Canada they have every right to make a film or even a tv series if they can find investors. There's no way Eon would win a case should they even try to sue. Eon could only do something against screenings of the film in other countries or if the Canadians would try to sell DVDs outside Canada.
    Eon better is getting used to this situation - in 20 to 25 years (70 to 75 years after the death of the author) "James Bond 007" will be in the public domain worldwide. And just like with Sherlock Holmes or The Three Musketeers, everyone will be able to make a James Bond film or tv series.

    What am I going to say spells disaster.

    James up for grabs, Everyone taking a spin. You can imagine every two bit studio giving it a try. The reason Bond has worked for forty years is that it has been led by one studio who have generally made it well. The more Bond pictures means dilution of the brand

    Of course eon might still be making the Bonds, which might work. They are fierce litigators.

    This is why I refuse to call NSNA a James Bond film. Sean Connery was in six James Bond films, two Highlander films and other films like Zardoz and NSNA. Yes, I group NSNA with Zardoz.
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  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    am747 wrote:

    W .... Look at the brighter side as well, may be there could be better films made than GE, TWINE, DAD, QoS, etc. It is not like EON has always made great films :)

    :)) :)) :)) :))
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    am747 wrote:

    What am I going to say spells disaster.

    James up for grabs, Everyone taking a spin. You can imagine every two bit studio giving it a try. The reason Bond has worked for forty years is that it has been led by one studio who have generally made it well. The more Bond pictures means dilution of the brand

    Of course eon might still be making the Bonds, which might work. They are fierce litigators.

    Not necessarily. Bond would be up for grabs and many dumb films will be made but they would not necessarily be successful at the BO. Esp. when they could be competing with big budget well thought out films from major studios and EON .... Eventually, only the fittest would survive .... Look at the brighter side as well, may be there could be better films made than GE, TWINE, DAD, QoS, etc. It is not like EON has always made great films :)

    EON would have to make sure they have strong branding as the original Bond series so people don't get confused like they did with NSNA. If it's possible, they should have in all actors contracts that they can't ever be in other Bond films. They need to stick with the gunbarrel sequence at the beginning and use the Bond theme more to let people know it's the real Bond series.
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  • am747am747 Posts: 720MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:

    EON would have to make sure they have strong branding as the original Bond series so people don't get confused like they did with NSNA. If it's possible, they should have in all actors contracts that they can't ever be in other Bond films. They need to stick with the gunbarrel sequence at the beginning and use the Bond theme more to let people know it's the real original Bond series.

    Definitely .... And the product will have to be very high quality - almost spot on with the right mix of Bond elements .... Otherwise, it would be embarrassing for it to see rival film makers outdoing its films at the BO

    Someone mentioned Sherlock Holmes so drawing parallels - it would be like making RDJ and Guy Ritchie kind of films which differentiates themselves from other Sherlock Holmes films .... Fans of that franchise don't wait for Sherlock Holmes films but for Sherlock Holmes films from this franchise
  • James SuzukiJames Suzuki New ZealandPosts: 2,406MI6 Agent
    It is a vet interesting topic. Thank you toe very one for sharing their views!
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  • McmadnessMcmadness Posts: 26MI6 Agent
    I do see this film as an underrated gem in the franchise, after the ludicrous moonraker it was a nice down to earth cold war thriller and the scene that perfectly represents how not over the top it was is when the lotus explodes. No gadgets, no lasers, no boats that go on land. Just old fashioned bond resourcefulness.

    I will say however that when bond kicks the car off the cliff one of the things always going through my mind is ''that would have been a great way to kill off blofeld''
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    Mcmadness wrote:
    I do see this film as an underrated gem in the franchise, after the ludicrous moonraker it was a nice down to earth cold war thriller and the scene that perfectly represents how not over the top it was is when the lotus explodes. No gadgets, no lasers, no boats that go on land. Just old fashioned bond resourcefulness.

    I will say however that when bond kicks the car off the cliff one of the things always going through my mind is ''that would have been a great way to kill off blofeld''
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  • perdoggperdogg Posts: 432MI6 Agent
    Mcmadness wrote:
    I do see this film as an underrated gem in the franchise, after the ludicrous moonraker it was a nice down to earth cold war thriller and the scene that perfectly represents how not over the top it was is when the lotus explodes. No gadgets, no lasers, no boats that go on land. Just old fashioned bond resourcefulness.

    I will say however that when bond kicks the car off the cliff one of the things always going through my mind is ''that would have been a great way to kill off blofeld''

    I love the tribute to Eric Ambler when Bond tells Lisl he is a writer in search of Greek smugglers.
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  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    After a buildup of desire to watch this, my lady and I sat down and enjoyed this brilliant Bond film again. There are some excellent sequences in this film which I think is a shame so many of the fans ignore.

    My favourite set of scenes in the entire movie has to be at the casino and lure of the Countess. Moore has a brilliantly nuanced way of playing these interactions with characters. Including the baccarat start ("No match for an unfriendly shoe." "That's if you play those odds") which simply sets the scene with Kristatos and Lisl as to what to expect from Bond.

    Next, Bond so brilliantly snubs Kristatos' wine suggestion "a little too scented for my palate". It's all understated, charming and sophisticated. This is why I love Bond.

    This is followed by the great and real interactions between the Countess and Bond - which finales with a brutal battle on the beach. Then all ties up with Columbo to then finally wipe out Locque.

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  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    Next, Bond so brilliantly snubs Kristatos' wine suggestion "a little too scented for my palate". It's all understated, charming and sophisticated. This is why I love Bond.

    You'll note that I just mentioned this as one of my favorite Roger moments in the "Funny Bond" sticky. Great minds think alike. -{

    I also consider the Casino portion and everything with the Countess as the best section of FYEO. (Have you read Risico?)

    What did your lady think of the film?
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  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    I also consider the Casino portion and everything with the Countess as the best section of FYEO.  (Have you read Risico?)

    I'd have to agree with you that it's the best section in the film.
    Firemass wrote:
    What did your lady think of the film?

    She really enjoyed it, particularly Carol Bouquet and her clothes (which stand out as more timeless than the other fashions!). She also loves the rock-climbing finale and battle at the monastery. Reminds her of some childhood films. Doesn't rank it as highly as I do, but thinks it's pretty up there. She also thinks Roger Moore looks very handsome and is in the right balance (as opposed to OP/AVTAK).
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

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  • WadsyWadsy Auckland, New ZealandPosts: 410MI6 Agent
    I honestly think I appreciate the film's contents more than anyone here, enough to call it my favourite James Bond movie. The only flaw I have is the pre title sequence with the shoddy death of one of Bond's best villains - Blofeld. Though, the way he went out in Diamonds Are Forever was so terrible, that not only is this sin forgiven, but that director John Glen doesn't seem to count DAF in the continuity, but instead gives us a little snippet of how Bond's revenge towards Tracy's death did turn out.

    As for the movie itself, what can I say? It's absolutely amazing. The title song by Sheena Easton is easily of the greatest Bond themes, the plot (despite the lack of Bernard Lee) is amazing but also realistic. All actors performed very well in the role, even Lynn Holly Johnston. Bibi Dahl is just the character the actress was given. This film feels like an epic basic Bond in my opinion, and it is done flawlessly thanks to Glen and the crew. The first half of the movie contains some of the best, if not the best action sequences in Bond such as the Citroen 2CV car chase in Spain and the ski scene in Northern Italy. The plot containing all these baddies such as Emile Locque, Eric Krieglar, and Kristatos being the main villain worked out for the better, and hell, the Albania warehouse scene leading right to Locque's destruction over the cliff was some outstanding action. The mountain climb sequence is just superb, allowing Bond to use his wits rather than his gadgets. While Kristatos's death leaves something to be desired, I cannot help but favour this film over the rest of the Bond series. Bill Conti's score also brought up my score, making it highly 80's and memorable. Lastly, Carole Bouquet is easily my favourite Bond girl, besides Diana Rigg in On Her Majesty's Secret Service.
    1. FYEO 2. OHMSS 3. LTK 4. FRWL 5. TLD 6. TSWLM 7. GF 8. AVTAK 9. MR 10. DN 11. SF 12. LALD 13. TB 14. OP 15. CR 16. GE 17. YOLT 18. TMWTGG 19. SP 20. TND 21. TWINE 22. QOS 23. NTTD 24. DAF 25. DAD 26. NSNA 27. CR '67

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  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    ^ Exactly right. My only criticism of the film is that some of the action sequences (excluding the 2CV chase) don't flow as well as they could. Perhaps they're too long and have too many oddish, skittish elements. For me the issue is highlighted by a big action sequence, then Bond again has to deal with the hockey guys...
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

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  • hehadlotsofgutshehadlotsofguts Durham England Posts: 2,107MI6 Agent
    ^ Exactly right. My only criticism of the film is that some of the action sequences (excluding the 2CV chase) don't flow as well as they could. Perhaps they're too long and have too many oddish, skittish elements. For me the issue is highlighted by a big action sequence, then Bond again has to deal with the hockey guys...

    The fight with the hockey players was contrived. I don't like it, because it was thrown in for the sake of it.
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  • WadsyWadsy Auckland, New ZealandPosts: 410MI6 Agent
    I like it, because if they couldn't beat Bond by at least trying to approach him, they are left with this situation. Pretending they're hockey players until Bibi walks out of the venue, then bam!
    1. FYEO 2. OHMSS 3. LTK 4. FRWL 5. TLD 6. TSWLM 7. GF 8. AVTAK 9. MR 10. DN 11. SF 12. LALD 13. TB 14. OP 15. CR 16. GE 17. YOLT 18. TMWTGG 19. SP 20. TND 21. TWINE 22. QOS 23. NTTD 24. DAF 25. DAD 26. NSNA 27. CR '67

    1. Dalton 2. Moore 3. Connery 4. Craig 5. Lazenby 6. Brosnan
  • hehadlotsofgutshehadlotsofguts Durham England Posts: 2,107MI6 Agent
    Wadsy wrote:
    I like it, because if they couldn't beat Bond by at least trying to approach him, they are left with this situation. Pretending they're hockey players until Bibi walks out of the venue, then bam!
    Wadsy wrote:
    I like it, because if they couldn't beat Bond by at least trying to approach him, they are left with this situation. Pretending they're hockey players until Bibi walks out of the venue, then bam!

    Kind of like the Three Blind Mice, pretending to be beggars?
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  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    I don't dispute the way the dudes approached Bond, or even the silliness of the hooter going when they end up in the net. It's more about how sometimes Bond films have the insert action here sequences where it's more exhausting than exhilarating.

    Moonraker suffers that after the Gondola scene (superfluous, but passable) with the ambulance (annoying).

    To end the post of a positive, the raid on the fort in FYEO is a hidden gem in the series. It's excellent.
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

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  • VesperMelogranoVesperMelograno The SouthPosts: 901MI6 Agent
    So I am watching FYEO. I have to say I have been too hard on it in the past. How can I dislike a movie where Bond has a chase down a bobsled run? And a motorcycles racing down the mountain! I even like the Lotus. I wish the Bond Girls were a solid 10 years older but what can you do? Well, the Contessa was a good age for Bond and her periwinkle dress is divine.
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  • Herr MichaelHerr Michael Posts: 360MI6 Agent
    FYEO is my favorite Moore Bond movie.

    I love the girls (my German Shepherd Dog is named after the Countess), the plot, and the villians, oh, and the locations too.
  • James SuzukiJames Suzuki New ZealandPosts: 2,406MI6 Agent
    It is my fave and will stay that way most likely.
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    Just watched it tonight with my ole man. He watched it in the cinemas back in the day.
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  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    Wadsy wrote:
    I honestly think I appreciate the film's contents more than anyone here, enough to call it my favourite James Bond movie.

    Haha that's a bold statement considering FYEO has some very devoted fans around these parts.
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
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