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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Not so much a gun question but......

    In Goldfinger when the bomb arrives and the Marines move in the general says
    "Bomb desposal unit to accompany D.O.G " so what does DOG stand for ?

    Desposal Ordnance Group ? Or something like that.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • 00730073 COPPosts: 977MI6 Agent
    Not so much a gun question but......

    In Goldfinger when the bomb arrives and the Marines move in the general says
    "Bomb desposal unit to accompany D.O.G " so what does DOG stand for ?

    Desposal Ordnance Group ? Or something like that.

    DOG.

    The domestic dog is a domesticated canid which has been selectively bred over millennia for various behaviours, sensory capabilities, and physical attributes.
    Scientific name: Canis lupus familiaris
    Gestation period: 58 – 68 days
    Higher classification: Gray wolf
    Lifespan: 10 – 13 years
    Daily sleep: 10 hours
    Height: 16 – 86 cm (At Shoulder)



    I am truly sorry, I just could not resist......
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :))
    maybe they were experimenting with partially sighted bomb disposal people ?
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • The Domino EffectThe Domino Effect Posts: 3,631MI6 Agent
    0073 wrote:
    Not so much a gun question but......

    In Goldfinger when the bomb arrives and the Marines move in the general says
    "Bomb desposal unit to accompany D.O.G " so what does DOG stand for ?

    Desposal Ordnance Group ? Or something like that.

    DOG.

    The domestic dog is a domesticated canid which has been selectively bred over millennia for various behaviours, sensory capabilities, and physical attributes.
    Scientific name: Canis lupus familiaris
    Gestation period: 58 – 68 days
    Higher classification: Gray wolf
    Lifespan: 10 – 13 years
    Daily sleep: 10 hours
    Height: 16 – 86 cm (At Shoulder)



    I am truly sorry, I just could not resist......

    They had to spell it out so that the dog wouldn't understand and get all excited.
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent
    Divisional officers group, probably or it could be in reference to the infantrymen who were known as dogfaces for some reason??
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Thanks, I've been tryjng to figure it out for ages. :)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    https://youtu.be/0eKv99j1TV0
    I thought this was interesting, 5 gun myths from the movies. :D
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    https://youtu.be/_OESUcHqqnc
    The Curve, a cute little gun. :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    https://youtu.be/0eKv99j1TV0
    I thought this was interesting, 5 gun myths from the movies. :D
    Hilarious! -{
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    https://youtu.be/BKoQRFwWkMY
    Double barrel 1911 review. :)
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    In loads of movies we see assassins assembling riffles on rooftops etc.
    My question is, are these weapons less accurate than a "one piece" riffle
    or is there little to no difference ?
    I understand concealment is the objective, just wondering if there was
    any drop in accuracy ?
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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,483MI6 Agent
    Most if not all rifles break down into component parts. The trick is not to knock the scope or sights which should have been zeroed in previously.
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent
    There's not really such a thing as a one piece gun tp, even the military m24 sniper rifle can be field stripped, a lot of the sniper rifles used in films and put in case to conceal them are semi stripped with barrel detached etc. As for accuracy, that depends on the gun, the maintainance of the gun, ammo and of course the marksman.
    And what ^ he said, interesting fact for you because I know you like them, some early scopes had Crosshairs made from spiders Web, they used it as it was less likely to break due to recoil or being knocked about. They used Web from a particular spider abundant on the north Yorkshire moors.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Thanks Chris, you see it so often in movies. I Wondered if it was a compromise of
    Concealment v Accuracy. :) Very interesting about the spider web. -{
    ( I do love a bit of "Not a lot of people, Know that ! )
    Sir Miles once pointed out, that expression comes from a Peter Sellers impression
    Of Sir Michael. :)) ( which I didn't know )
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent
    I didn't know that either! I'm sure sir miles is right, he usually is, I suppose when you've been around as long as he has you pick up a lot of info. I used to quite like the Michael pain nosey neighbour in the fast show, now not a lot of people know that. ; ;)
    It would be hoped that a decent assassin would use the best weapon for the job and strip it down accordingly.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I was assuming an assassin's rifle would have to be custom made to
    Break down, to a convenient " brief case" size :D
    Another show "Stella Street" was an Impressions show, a street full of celebs.
    Like Sir Michael, and Sir Roger. I remember one episode when the local cleaning
    Woman was Interviewed by " Blofeld" to keep his secret base clean. :))
    ( I've never been able to find it on YouTube , to post here )
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent
    I was assuming an assassin's rifle would have to be custom made to
    Break down, to a convenient " brief case" size :D
    Another show "Stella Street" was an Impressions show, a street full of celebs.
    Like Sir Michael, and Sir Roger. I remember one episode when the local cleaning
    Woman was Interviewed by " Blofeld" to keep his secret base clean. :))
    ( I've never been able to find it on YouTube , to post here )
    I think I vaguely remember that ?:)
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • 00730073 COPPosts: 977MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    Most if not all rifles break down into component parts. The trick is not to knock the scope or sights which should have been zeroed in previously.

    Quite right.

    In the movies you do however see the assassin assembling the rifle "click" the scope in place as the last piece, now there are some pretty spectacular quick-fix mounts nowadays, but you are still going to lose your perfect zero if you remove and then fix back your scope.

    Another thing that the movie rifles quite often have is the screw in barrel, and I am talking about the kind where the barrel is either in two pieces or that the barrel screws in to the chamber when assembled. This is also going to screw up ('scuse the pun) your zero. With a quick detach barrel, the barrel and chamber should be single solid piece to maintain internal ballistic accuracy.
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  • sniperUKsniperUK UlsterPosts: 594MI6 Agent
    New toy, 7.62 Enfield , converted to a competition standard target rifle by Fultons of Bisley and has Parker Hale PH-5C sights, this gives me two Enfields the other being an AJ Parker cconversion.

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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Can't remember the exact Book but didn't Bond use one , possibly in Colonel Sun ?
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,704MI6 Agent
    edited February 2017
    Can anyone identify the gun this brave Nigerian terrorist tracker is holding?

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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,704MI6 Agent
    And what on earth is she holding here?

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  • always shakenalways shaken LondonPosts: 6,287MI6 Agent
    ive just watched a WW2 movie ,and all the German soldiers who have the ERMA MP40 sub-machine gun (ie the classic Nazi machine gun) and they are all firing the weapon whilst holding the magazine ?? now im sure I read somewhere ,that if you did this the magazine would not sit square in the body and thus cause a jam ,but you see it all the time in all the films ,who Is right
    By the way, did I tell you, I was "Mad"?
  • Herr MichaelHerr Michael Posts: 360MI6 Agent
    In many cases with a lot of different external magazine-fed firearms, there is enough tolerance to allow the holding of the mag while firing the weapon with no malfunctions. It is still not recommended but users do it.

    I do not have any information on either the MP-38 or MP-40 so I don't know what the factory recommended.

    During range practice I have rested the bottom of the magazine of both my StG.58 and AR15's on my off hand while standing with no ill effect. I would not probably do this in a defensive situation holding the handguard instead.
  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    And what on earth is she holding here?

    Aisha-Bakari-Gombi.jpg

    I think that's the joke Moonraker space gun MG is building for Higgy...
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    And what on earth is she holding here?

    Aisha-Bakari-Gombi.jpg
    That first one looks like something from the boer war! I think both are custom or modified from what I can see from your pictures.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,704MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    Can anyone identify the gun this brave Nigerian terrorist tracker is holding?

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    To me this one looks like a shotgun. It seems like it's has cylinder like a revolver, but at the same time it looks like a magazine in front of the cylinder. That makes no sense??????

    Please explain :s
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    As Chriscoop points out, I think these are all "Home modified" possibly from two or more
    Other guns ?
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,704MI6 Agent
    That theory makes some sense.
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    Number24 wrote:
    Can anyone identify the gun this brave Nigerian terrorist tracker is holding?

    5760.jpg?w=620&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=87519a37de436bd9427788d3c0d37430


    To me this one looks like a shotgun. It seems like it's has cylinder like a revolver, but at the same time it looks like a magazine in front of the cylinder. That makes no sense??????

    Please explain :s
    It certainly does look like a revolving cylinder, and given the shells she has in the ammo belt I'd assume it is a cartridge gun, I dont think that is a magazine?? where's the ejection port? And given the bore of barrel if guess she fires solid slugs... So this maybe a modified big game rifle. That's my guess anyway.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
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