I agree. He should have just done what Roger Moore did in Maverick and make up an excuse for the British accent. None of the Bond actors have been good at accents.
Did Pierce Brosnan ever do a film/show with an American accent? He sorta sounds somewhat American in certain circumstances, so I think he would do a good one.
I don't recall PB ever doing a pure American accent. In the Thomas Crown Affair they explained his accent by indicating that Crown is actually Scottish, but worked to change his accent to upper crust British so as not to be left out at university by English snobs. PB is sort of like Errol Flynn back in the old days....he doesn't have his native accent anymore (except in a couple of films he made in Ireland), still does classic British when called upon, and generally does American roles with a Brit/American hybrid accent that's passable enough not to be a distraction. There are some British and Australian actors these days who are great at all kinds of accents. Hugh Jackman, Hugh Lurie, Eric Bana, Christian Bale, Liam and Chris Hemsworth, Emily Blunt, Kate Winslet, Daniel Day Lewis, Michael Fassbender and a bunch of others have an amazing ear for flawless accents.
None of the Bond actors have been good at accents.
"Ah sure am, boy!" ) I liked RM's campy attempt at an American accent in TMWTGG and AVTAK.
What did you think of George's accent in OHMSS? I thought it was a wierd Australian/British hybrid. His Aussie accent comes out in certain scenes, when he's captured by Blofeld and when he's taken to see Draco.
Have you ever heard of the Emancipation Proclamation?"
None of the Bond actors have been good at accents.
"Ah sure am, boy!" ) I liked RM's campy attempt at an American accent in TMWTGG and AVTAK.
What did you think of George's accent in OHMSS? I thought it was a wierd Australian/British hybrid. His Aussie accent comes out in certain scenes, when he's captured by Blofeld and when he's taken to see Draco.
Roger did an American accent at time in The Saint, and it was always awful. Then again, some actual American accents are awful.
There's an episode where he pretend he's a Texan named Sebastian Tombs and it just sounds like a fake Dallas accent.
Connery and Lazenby both toned down their usual accents for Bond by combing them with RP. Lazenby's accent wasn't so much of a problem, but he didn't speak with enough confidence. Moore spoke in RP all the time from a young age, and he always sounds perfectin his own voice. Dalton's acting training probably taught him RP, but in Bond there was a hint of Welsh. Brosnan moved to London at 10 years old, so his Irish accent naturally turned into something else with London influence, and living in America toned it down even more. In Remington Steele it was RP combined with a hint of Irish. By Bond the American kicked in, but somehow I hear more of his Irish accent too than I did a decade earlier. I really don't know how to describe his accent.
I think many of us just accept the accent of whichever actor is playing the part. Back in the day
Many actors didn't even bother trying an accent. Errol Flynn as Robin Hood for example. Plus the
Many characters played by Connery or Caine,
I love Richard Gere's Irish accent in "The Jackal" ) especially as his character had been in an
American prison for something like 15 years, so speaking with an American accent could have
Been easily explained.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
The DB10 was just another part of the film that was massively hyped up and rightfully so. Of course the only screen time it really got was in one of the most forgettable and boring chases in the series.
Totally disagree! The I loved the car chase, Bond racing through the streets while talking with Moneypenny and trying to figure out the gadgets.
You're seriously in the minority here... It's no match for the Quantum of Solace car chase for instance (which in my opinion is one of the best ever made because it showed the Aston's DBS brutal power and great engine sound, it's also far more dynamic). The SPECTRE chase was just boring, the tension was weak and the Fiat 500 scene just killed it for me completely (very Moorish moment and I'm not the biggest Moore fan). What's even worse is that they built both cars especially for the movie so it's a missed oportunity, a huge one.
It was as dull as dishwasher, a real missed opportunity. I saw the Bourne Identity on tv recently, now that was a car chase! I understand that they attempted to undermine convention but it just failed for me. It's a metaphor for SP in my view. Too much money, too much time...
Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
When I teach students how to critique, one exercise involves looking at modern car chases in movies. We start with the granddaddy, Bullitt and work our way forward. Then, I let them critique the one in Quantum of Solace, which they find mediocre after having seen the earlier ones.
Not to disagree too much Gassy Man, as believe me I know you, know
Your stuff. ( Here it comes ) ..... I was never very impressed with the chase
From Bullet ! {:) I think there have been better, and ( only my opinion of course )
The chase from Ronin is The Best ! Ever. -{
Once again Gassy Man, no disrespect meant, you've pointed out many movie fact
To me before, taking time to explain, as I'm a bit thick.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
Not to disagree too much Gassy Man, as believe me I know you, know
Your stuff. ( Here it comes ) ..... I was never very impressed with the chase
From Bullet ! {:) I think there have been better, and ( only my opinion of course )
The chase from Ronin is The Best ! Ever. -{
Once again Gassy Man, no disrespect meant, you've pointed out many movie fact
To me before, taking time to explain, as I'm a bit thick.
The Ronin chase is peerless, but I also love Bullitt for different reasons. Less kinetic, but full of tension with incredible use of sound.
Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
Not to disagree too much Gassy Man, as believe me I know you, know
Your stuff. ( Here it comes ) ..... I was never very impressed with the chase
From Bullet ! {:) I think there have been better, and ( only my opinion of course )
The chase from Ronin is The Best ! Ever. -{
Once again Gassy Man, no disrespect meant, you've pointed out many movie fact
To me before, taking time to explain, as I'm a bit thick.
No need to apologize, TP. I think the car chase in Bullit is really overrated. It's one of those things that a you're supposed to rave about because it's defined by the "experts" as a "classic." I think it's just OK. I'll take TSWLM any day.
All good stuff- anyone care to open a "Car Chase" thread? I haven't checked, but I don't think we've had a thread devoted to that particular staple of the action movie.
Sorry if this has been asked here already, but I'm not gonna go through 2,000 posts to find them. But what do you want to see?
The story Daniel Craig has been telling to continue?
Something entirely new?
Or
One of the older actors traits be modernized? Could that even work or has cinema changed too much since they left the role?
Also, do you think that the Social Justice BS that is plaguing movies now could impact who they choose for the next 007 actor?
Honestly? If they keep the story Craig has been telling since Casino Royale, then it would be hard pressed if they went ahead and made a person of color the next Bond. If they wanted to explain it like "James Bond" was a code name that went along with 007, that might be acceptable, depending on who they cast, also, it should be a completely new story.
Before anyone says anything of the sort. I have no issue with black/other ethnicity actors and actresses, there are several that are top notch in the business. But with the Bond makers at Eon not in the US, with the exception of Sony owning MGM, I suppose. Otherwise, I wouldn't think this would be an issue.
Any thoughts on who you would like to see play Bond and the rest of this?
1, GE 2, CR 3, SF 4, TWINE 5, Spectre 6, TMWTGG 7, DAD 8, LALD 9, AVTAK 10, LTK 11, Octopussy 12, Moonraker 13, TLD 14, GF 15, QOS 16, Tomorrow 17, FYEO 18. TSWLM Not seen much: Dr. No, Russia, Thunderball, Twice, Majesty.
1: Brosnan 2: Craig 3: Moore 4: Dalton 5: Connery and 6: Lazenby
Sorry if this has been asked here already, but I'm not gonna go through 2,000 posts to find them. But what do you want to see?
The story Daniel Craig has been telling to continue?
Something entirely new?
Or
One of the older actors traits be modernized? Could that even work or has cinema changed too much since they left the role?
Also, do you think that the Social Justice BS that is plaguing movies now could impact who they choose for the next 007 actor?
Honestly? If they keep the story Craig has been telling since Casino Royale, then it would be hard pressed if they went ahead and made a person of color the next Bond. If they wanted to explain it like "James Bond" was a code name that went along with 007, that might be acceptable, depending on who they cast, also, it should be a completely new story.
Before anyone says anything of the sort. I have no issue with black/other ethnicity actors and actresses, there are several that are top notch in the business. But with the Bond makers at Eon not in the US, with the exception of Sony owning MGM, I suppose. Otherwise, I wouldn't think this would be an issue.
Any thoughts on who you would like to see play Bond and the rest of this?
James Bond was never a code name for Agent 007 so I'd hope they keep it like that.
As for who I'd like to see as the next Bond; my choice would be Wes Bentley. Yes he's American, but if a Brit can play Superman and Napoleon Solo, I'm sure an American can play Bond too.
Pussy Galore: “My name is Pussy Galore.”
Bond: “I must be dreaming.”
Sorry if this has been asked here already, but I'm not gonna go through 2,000 posts to find them. But what do you want to see?
The story Daniel Craig has been telling to continue?
Something entirely new?
Or
One of the older actors traits be modernized? Could that even work or has cinema changed too much since they left the role?
Also, do you think that the Social Justice BS that is plaguing movies now could impact who they choose for the next 007 actor?
Honestly? If they keep the story Craig has been telling since Casino Royale, then it would be hard pressed if they went ahead and made a person of color the next Bond. If they wanted to explain it like "James Bond" was a code name that went along with 007, that might be acceptable, depending on who they cast, also, it should be a completely new story.
Before anyone says anything of the sort. I have no issue with black/other ethnicity actors and actresses, there are several that are top notch in the business. But with the Bond makers at Eon not in the US, with the exception of Sony owning MGM, I suppose. Otherwise, I wouldn't think this would be an issue.
Any thoughts on who you would like to see play Bond and the rest of this?
Regarding Social Justice: Bond films tend to stay away from politics; the Craig films may have one foot in reality but they still exist in their own Bond world. The bad guys in Bond films tend to be rogues, independent of a particular government or working against their own government.
FYI: Sony does not own MGM. Sony was just a partner with MGM and EON on the Bond films (Sony distributed them). Sony's partnership actually expired after SPECTRE.
As for a new Bond, according to MI6.com the new rumor dujour is Chris Hemsworth. I checked out the original story from The Mirror and like most internet rumors, I'd take it with a very large grain of salt. Hemsworth would be an interesting choice to say the least. If he did end up the next Bond, he would truly be the first "big name" actor to take on the role and wouldn't come cheap.
Not to disagree too much Gassy Man, as believe me I know you, know
Your stuff. ( Here it comes ) ..... I was never very impressed with the chase
From Bullet ! {:) I think there have been better, and ( only my opinion of course )
The chase from Ronin is The Best ! Ever. -{
Once again Gassy Man, no disrespect meant, you've pointed out many movie fact
To me before, taking time to explain, as I'm a bit thick.
No need to apologize, TP. I think the car chase in Bullit is really overrated. It's one of those things that a you're supposed to rave about because it's defined by the "experts" as a "classic." I think it's just OK. I'll take TSWLM any day.
A bit like those "Bond fans" who proclaim that Connery was the best Bond because that's what they think they should say to sound like they're an expert.
Not to disagree too much Gassy Man, as believe me I know you, know
Your stuff. ( Here it comes ) ..... I was never very impressed with the chase
From Bullet ! {:) I think there have been better, and ( only my opinion of course )
The chase from Ronin is The Best ! Ever. -{
Once again Gassy Man, no disrespect meant, you've pointed out many movie fact
To me before, taking time to explain, as I'm a bit thick.
Oh, geez, TP, what a nice way to put it, and right back at you. That's cool, of course. I use Bullitt because it's the grand daddy of all modern car chases. All of them build upon it, from the camera angles, to the chases, to the use of weapons, and so forth. Things just escalate -- faster cars, automatic weapons, etc. They're just variations of the same. The chase from Ronin takes the Bullitt chase and multiplies the carnage, as well as borrows from the chase in To Live and Die in LA.
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As for a new Bond, according to MI6.com the new rumor dujour is Chris Hemsworth. I checked out the original story from The Mirror and like most internet rumors, I'd take it with a very large grain of salt.
I'm assuming that's the story from his stunt double that is working on a film with Hemsworth, Elba & Hiddleston ? Where he says in his opinion he'd like to see Hemsworth get the gig so he can be his stunt double on the Bond films too...?
It's not really a 'rumour' is it...? )
As for a new Bond, according to MI6.com the new rumor dujour is Chris Hemsworth. I checked out the original story from The Mirror and like most internet rumors, I'd take it with a very large grain of salt.
I'm assuming that's the story from his stunt double that is working on a film with Hemsworth, Elba & Hiddleston ? Where he says in his opinion he'd like to see Hemsworth get the gig so he can be his stunt double on the Bond films too...?
It's not really a 'rumour' is it...? )
It's kind of an odd "story" the way it's written. I agree that it's pretty much the stunt guy propping up Hemsworth for Bond but I think the Mirror twists what he says to make it appear that Hemsworth is a leading candidate. Then they throw what is most likely an old quote from Hemsworth: "When asked recently if he would be interested in the role in the future, Hemsworth explained: "I don’t know many who wouldn’t jump at that. Would it be scary and daunting? Of course. But what isn’t?" The usual smoke and mirrors.
It's been reported that Logan Lucky is a 35 day shoot. Then on to Othello and Purity for Craig. Interesting that it appears that all these roles are supporting and not the lead. I'm sure he's being well paid for the film and cable series but the big money still is with Bond.
It's been reported that Logan Lucky is a 35 day shoot. Then on to Othello and Purity for Craig. Interesting that it appears that all these roles are supporting and not the lead. I'm sure he's being well paid for the film and cable series but the big money still is with Bond.
Iago isn't really a supporting role. He has more lines than any other character in any Shakespeare play. His character is also much more complex than Othello. Some have said that the play should be called "Iago."
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At least they correctly have Tom tucked into the list---hiding in plain sight :v
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Some of those comments are enlightening
"He has aged somewhat and become extremely rough around the edges but, at the end of the day, i'd still let his calloused hands rip off my tights, throw my day-dress up over my head and then have him ravage me until I resemble a crushed tin of chopped tomatoes" the Daniel Craig effect )
Some of those comments are enlightening
"He has aged somewhat and become extremely rough around the edges but, at the end of the day, i'd still let his calloused hands rip off my tights, throw my day-dress up over my head and then have him ravage me until I resemble a crushed tin of chopped tomatoes" the Daniel Craig effect )
LMAO
Typical Daily Fail comments (often better then the article)
It's been reported that Logan Lucky is a 35 day shoot. Then on to Othello and Purity for Craig. Interesting that it appears that all these roles are supporting and not the lead. I'm sure he's being well paid for the film and cable series but the big money still is with Bond.
Iago isn't really a supporting role. He has more lines than any other character in any Shakespeare play. His character is also much more complex than Othello. Some have said that the play should be called "Iago."
Comments
Did Pierce Brosnan ever do a film/show with an American accent? He sorta sounds somewhat American in certain circumstances, so I think he would do a good one.
"Ah sure am, boy!"
What did you think of George's accent in OHMSS? I thought it was a wierd Australian/British hybrid. His Aussie accent comes out in certain scenes, when he's captured by Blofeld and when he's taken to see Draco.
" I don't listen to hip hop!"
Roger did an American accent at time in The Saint, and it was always awful. Then again, some actual American accents are awful.
There's an episode where he pretend he's a Texan named Sebastian Tombs and it just sounds like a fake Dallas accent.
Connery and Lazenby both toned down their usual accents for Bond by combing them with RP. Lazenby's accent wasn't so much of a problem, but he didn't speak with enough confidence. Moore spoke in RP all the time from a young age, and he always sounds perfectin his own voice. Dalton's acting training probably taught him RP, but in Bond there was a hint of Welsh. Brosnan moved to London at 10 years old, so his Irish accent naturally turned into something else with London influence, and living in America toned it down even more. In Remington Steele it was RP combined with a hint of Irish. By Bond the American kicked in, but somehow I hear more of his Irish accent too than I did a decade earlier. I really don't know how to describe his accent.
Many actors didn't even bother trying an accent. Errol Flynn as Robin Hood for example. Plus the
Many characters played by Connery or Caine,
I love Richard Gere's Irish accent in "The Jackal"
American prison for something like 15 years, so speaking with an American accent could have
Been easily explained.
It was as dull as dishwasher, a real missed opportunity. I saw the Bourne Identity on tv recently, now that was a car chase! I understand that they attempted to undermine convention but it just failed for me. It's a metaphor for SP in my view. Too much money, too much time...
Your stuff. ( Here it comes ) ..... I was never very impressed with the chase
From Bullet ! {:) I think there have been better, and ( only my opinion of course )
The chase from Ronin is The Best ! Ever. -{
Once again Gassy Man, no disrespect meant, you've pointed out many movie fact
To me before, taking time to explain, as I'm a bit thick.
The Ronin chase is peerless, but I also love Bullitt for different reasons. Less kinetic, but full of tension with incredible use of sound.
No need to apologize, TP. I think the car chase in Bullit is really overrated. It's one of those things that a you're supposed to rave about because it's defined by the "experts" as a "classic." I think it's just OK. I'll take TSWLM any day.
The story Daniel Craig has been telling to continue?
Something entirely new?
Or
One of the older actors traits be modernized? Could that even work or has cinema changed too much since they left the role?
Also, do you think that the Social Justice BS that is plaguing movies now could impact who they choose for the next 007 actor?
Honestly? If they keep the story Craig has been telling since Casino Royale, then it would be hard pressed if they went ahead and made a person of color the next Bond. If they wanted to explain it like "James Bond" was a code name that went along with 007, that might be acceptable, depending on who they cast, also, it should be a completely new story.
Before anyone says anything of the sort. I have no issue with black/other ethnicity actors and actresses, there are several that are top notch in the business. But with the Bond makers at Eon not in the US, with the exception of Sony owning MGM, I suppose. Otherwise, I wouldn't think this would be an issue.
Any thoughts on who you would like to see play Bond and the rest of this?
1: Brosnan 2: Craig 3: Moore 4: Dalton 5: Connery and 6: Lazenby
James Bond was never a code name for Agent 007 so I'd hope they keep it like that.
As for who I'd like to see as the next Bond; my choice would be Wes Bentley. Yes he's American, but if a Brit can play Superman and Napoleon Solo, I'm sure an American can play Bond too.
Bond: “I must be dreaming.”
Regarding Social Justice: Bond films tend to stay away from politics; the Craig films may have one foot in reality but they still exist in their own Bond world. The bad guys in Bond films tend to be rogues, independent of a particular government or working against their own government.
FYI: Sony does not own MGM. Sony was just a partner with MGM and EON on the Bond films (Sony distributed them). Sony's partnership actually expired after SPECTRE.
As for a new Bond, according to MI6.com the new rumor dujour is Chris Hemsworth. I checked out the original story from The Mirror and like most internet rumors, I'd take it with a very large grain of salt. Hemsworth would be an interesting choice to say the least. If he did end up the next Bond, he would truly be the first "big name" actor to take on the role and wouldn't come cheap.
A bit like those "Bond fans" who proclaim that Connery was the best Bond because that's what they think they should say to sound like they're an expert.
I'm assuming that's the story from his stunt double that is working on a film with Hemsworth, Elba & Hiddleston ? Where he says in his opinion he'd like to see Hemsworth get the gig so he can be his stunt double on the Bond films too...?
It's not really a 'rumour' is it...?
It's kind of an odd "story" the way it's written. I agree that it's pretty much the stunt guy propping up Hemsworth for Bond but I think the Mirror twists what he says to make it appear that Hemsworth is a leading candidate. Then they throw what is most likely an old quote from Hemsworth: "When asked recently if he would be interested in the role in the future, Hemsworth explained: "I don’t know many who wouldn’t jump at that. Would it be scary and daunting? Of course. But what isn’t?" The usual smoke and mirrors.
It's been reported that Logan Lucky is a 35 day shoot. Then on to Othello and Purity for Craig. Interesting that it appears that all these roles are supporting and not the lead. I'm sure he's being well paid for the film and cable series but the big money still is with Bond.
He would make a great blond musclebound henchman!
Iago isn't really a supporting role. He has more lines than any other character in any Shakespeare play. His character is also much more complex than Othello. Some have said that the play should be called "Iago."
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1699120/idris-elba-aidan-turner-and-tom-hiddleston-all-on-studio-bosses-final-hitlist-to-be-the-next-james-bond/?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-FBPAGE-_-TheSunShowbiz-thesunshowbiz-_-20160831-_-Showbiz&TV-_-558245192
At least they correctly have Tom tucked into the list---hiding in plain sight :v
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
"He has aged somewhat and become extremely rough around the edges but, at the end of the day, i'd still let his calloused hands rip off my tights, throw my day-dress up over my head and then have him ravage me until I resemble a crushed tin of chopped tomatoes" the Daniel Craig effect
LMAO
Typical Daily Fail comments (often better then the article)
Shows what I know about Shakespeare.
Clearly they have no idea who the next Bond is going to be. As you say, classic Sun journalism.