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  • MilleniumForceMilleniumForce LondonPosts: 1,214MI6 Agent
    I know LTK gets cut to hell when shown in the afternoon on ITV. The whipping of Lupe is cut after one hit, Krest's death is unseen, and Sanchez's death - completely cut. We see the shot of the lighter, and then the very next shot is Bond stumbling away from the explosion. I often think this makes movies look terrible if this is anyone's first time watching a film.
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    I know LTK gets cut to hell when shown in the afternoon on ITV. The whipping of Lupe is cut after one hit, Krest's death is unseen, and Sanchez's death - completely cut. We see the shot of the lighter, and then the very next shot is Bond stumbling away from the explosion. I often think this makes movies look terrible if this is anyone's first time watching a film.

    I agree. The only times I've seen Dante's Peak was on television, and I remember so much of it was cut that the ending made no sense. The cut version was so bad that I haven't wanted to watch it again, though I understand that it's not one of Brosnan's better films.
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  • welshguy34welshguy34 Posts: 219MI6 Agent
    I know LTK gets cut to hell when shown in the afternoon on ITV. The whipping of Lupe is cut after one hit, Krest's death is unseen, and Sanchez's death - completely cut. We see the shot of the lighter, and then the very next shot is Bond stumbling away from the explosion. I often think this makes movies look terrible if this is anyone's first time watching a film.

    Yes I have watched LTK on ITV before and can remember Sanchez's demise with the lighter. It did look very odd and anyone who has not seen the film before will probably be scratching their heads. That is an integral part of the film and should not have been cut.
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,743MI6 Agent
    I will only watch Bond films 3 ways on my 46" Sony (which I would love to upgrade to a 55" :D ). Blu Ray (no need for explanation); Showtime premium cable channel (proper aspect ratios, no cropping of scope films to 1.78 to 1); and MGM HD Channel (proper aspect ratios, even 1.66 for the early non-scope films, the 2 "intermissions" per film is not so bad IMO). Forget about regular broadcast TV with all the commercials, cuts, and cropped ratios (not too mention not always the best source material).
  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    edited October 2016
    I watched Moonraker last night on Blu-Ray and it was stunning, but why in the HECK did they squeeze the title sequence into the window box!? It's certainly not like that on my SE DVD.

    Here's my other little niggles in order that I can remember them:

    1. Bond seems overly impressed with Drax's chateau while inside the helicopter.

    2. Bond's hair looks funny when he meets Dr. Goodhead.

    3. What's all the talk about detente between Bond and the CIA? and the speech at the end about it being the first joint venture between their two countries? Seems like they were just trying to cash in on the collaboration of Bond and Amasova (Russian) from the previous film. As Bond says to Goodhead, "That's what makes it more exciting, doesn't it?"

    4. Why would Bond think it was safer outside the cable car? and why would there be a chain inside?

    5. Are all the rocks by the python pond booby trapped or did Bond just have bad luck?

    6. Does Holly really want the night porter there immediately when she is still naked in bed?

    7. So the big piece of the docking station that broke off in the explosion was actually able to make it safely to earth with Jaws inside?

    8. Corinne runs right past her golfcart while making an escape. And what is that random blue car doing there?

    9. Bond had the ambulance guy out cold, but still managed to fall out of the van. Did he just lose his balance with the stretcher?

    10. How did Bond not notice Manuela in the hotel room? Why did the screenwriters give Bond that lame joke about getting lost? At least they could have made the staff member smile instead of looking at Bond like he was a jerk.
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  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    What's all the talk about detente between Bond and the CIA? and the speech at the end about it being the first joint venture between their two countries? Seems like they were just trying to cash in on the collaboration of Bond and Amasova (Russian) from the previous film. As Bond says to Goodhead, "That's what makes it more exciting, doesn't it?"

    That's all it is. TSWLM was so successful returning to the tried and true spectacle - with detente added for good 'modern' measure - why not do it again - BUT IN SPACE! -{
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  • MarcAngeDracoMarcAngeDraco Piz GloriaPosts: 564MI6 Agent
    With all the talk of Surrender, at least we still get it in the film. A little (and only by the tiniest measure) niggle for me is that we missed out on the superb Only Myself to Blame over the credits for TWINE. I love Arnold's Bond theme rendition, but I think Scott Walker's song is brilliant, and would have loved to have heard that over the credits.
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  • hehadlotsofgutshehadlotsofguts Durham England Posts: 2,107MI6 Agent
    In TSWLM,Bond has 5 minutes to rescue Anya from Atlantis, before the US navy blows it up. Why would Bond ask Commander Carter what "fast" meant. Unless the US navy jargon is different from the British navy. Bond is ex navy, so if the definition of "fast" is the same as the one in British navy, Bond should know this and not be confused.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Could be to let the audience know what it means ?
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  • hehadlotsofgutshehadlotsofguts Durham England Posts: 2,107MI6 Agent
    Could be to let the audience know what it means ?

    Now that you think about it, good point.
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  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    In TSWLM,Bond has 5 minutes to rescue Anya from Atlantis, before the US navy blows it up. Why would Bond ask Commander Carter what "fast" meant. Unless the US navy jargon is different  from the British navy.  Bond is ex navy, so if the definition of "fast" is the same as the one in British navy, Bond should know this and not be confused.

    I don't think "fast" is Navy jargon with a specific definition. Bond was simply wondering how much time he had. Do I have 5 minutes, 20 minutes, an hour?
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  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    I watched TSWLM last night on Blu Ray. As with Moonraker, the title sequence was squeezed into a window box. X-(

    Other little niggles:

    1. The music as soon as Bond starts skiing is awful. It never really bothered me before, and I do like the soundtrack for the most part, but for an epic skiing sequence it really doesn't work. In fact, aside from the astonishing ski-jump the rest of the PTS is actually not very exciting, mostly just a lot of telephone calls. That makes 4 Roger Moore PTS hampered by bad music.

    2. Moneypenny has very little screentime and when Bond sees her in Egypt he barely talks to her other than asking "Is M here?" No friendly chitchat or smalltalk. I would have been like, "Moneypenny you're a sight for sore eyes. what in the devil are you doing here in Egypt? etc"

    3. Bond's outfit looks surprisingly clean considering he rode across the desert on camel.

    4. When Bond and Carter emerge from the sub to watch the Liparus sink is very poor quality. Like a bootleg green screen shot.
    Compared to the all excellent model work this comes across as very sub-standard. (pun intended)
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  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    The music as soon as Bond starts skiing is awful. It never really bothered me before, and I do like the soundtrack for the most part, but for an epic skiing sequence it really doesn't work. In fact, aside from the astonishing ski-jump the rest of the PTS is actually not very exciting, mostly just a lot of telephone calls.  That makes 4 Roger Moore PTS hampered by bad music.

    While the Bee Gees sounds might be a bit camp, he uses the Bond theme brilliantly. Especially with the sweeping strings during the chase where they're going through the snow tunnels - and then the guitar theme when he's shooting via the ski pole.

    It adds to the iconic feeling of the PTS IMO -{
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  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    edited October 2016
    Just watched TWINE on blu-ray. Wow, what a Bond film. Easily one of the high points of the series.

    Little niggles:

    1. Bond points at people with his gun. Seems unprofessional to have poor gun safety habits.

    2. Since when do submarines carry cargo?

    3. Weird cross dissolve transition between Bond and Elektra in bed where it shows time passing and then returns to *gasp* them still in bed.

    4. What car does Bond have by the end of the film? (That the office staff recognizes)

    5. Fireworks ending is a bit cheesy.

    6. Why does Bond need to take a hostage while hiding behind the door?

    7. When the two parahawks collide Bond seems to be preoccupied putting his gloves on or something. He's not really paying much attention.

    8. Bond wastes almost all 5 seconds of bomb timer before even turning around to escape.

    9. Bond barking orders at the badguys in the sub makes no sense. He is telling them "Move! Move! Up! Over!" No wonder they look all confused. Then he kinda decides to kill them instead after they seemed to surrender. It's hard to tell what exactly went wrong here.

    10. Valentine should be able to swim the extra few inches to the side without needing help from Bond.
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  • MarcAngeDracoMarcAngeDraco Piz GloriaPosts: 564MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    Just watched TWINE on blu-ray. Wow, what a Bond film. Easily one of the high points of the series.

    Agreed!
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  • MilleniumForceMilleniumForce LondonPosts: 1,214MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    4. What car does Bond have by the end of the film? (That the office staff recognizes)

    It's the DB5, also in a deleted scene of the film. Remember, anyone asks you what film the DB5 is in, always include TWINE - it's definitely the car on the camera!
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  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 3,930MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    What's all the talk about detente between Bond and the CIA? and the speech at the end about it being the first joint venture between their two countries? Seems like they were just trying to cash in on the collaboration of Bond and Amasova (Russian) from the previous film. As Bond says to Goodhead, "That's what makes it more exciting, doesn't it?"
    That's all it is. TSWLM was so successful returning to the tried and true spectacle - with detente added for good 'modern' measure - why not do it again - BUT IN SPACE! -{
    this is probably right, Spy was a big success after a period of decline so why not make it a formula
    but this could also be a leftover element from the book that the filmmakers forgot to rewrite once the action was transferred to America

    Gala Brand is an undercover Scotland Yard special branch agent, has spent years working within Drax's organization, has seen little reason to be suspicious of Drax and is resentful that this MI5 agent is suddenly placed alongside her, out of jurisdiction, and starts stirring up trouble ... it takes several chapters for Bond to convince her something is very wrong, but once convinced she takes care of much of the necessary technical work involving the rocket ... Bonds mission in the book is a Special Branch/MI5 collaboration, and as I recall M knows he is infringing on a rival organization's jurisdiction when he assigns Bond a case within England's borders

    this all pretty much remains in the film, except (realistically) the rocket launch is moved from England to the States, thus Gala Brand special branch agent becomes Holly Goodhead CIA agent
    then Bond somehow forgets the half dozen missions he worked alongside CIA agent Felix Leiter
    (or maybe the two missions working alongside the suthi'n sherrif so traumatised him he forgot about any past positive experiences)

    here's a little niggle from the bonus feature interview segments: Lois Chiles regrets this role as she fancies herself a serious actress and sees the BondGirl roll as degrading eyecandy, yet she herself was the first really competent Bondgirl as equal who shares the responsibility of saving the world, basically rewriting the expectations of the leading lady character for the next several films
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    3. What's all the talk about detente between Bond and the CIA? and the speech at the end about it being the first joint venture between their two countries? Seems like they were just trying to cash in on the collaboration of Bond and Amasova (Russian) from the previous film. As Bond says to Goodhead, "That's what makes it more exciting, doesn't it?"

    Bond is using term "detente" in a different way. Detente is "the easing of hostility or strained relations, especially between countries." It doesn't have to mean between countries, and in this case it doesnt. Just because the countries are allies doesn't mean that Bond and Goodhead get along as there are clearly hostilities between the characters. Goodhead clearly despises Bond as a sexist pig, and that's why she doesn't want to work with him. Bond continues to make moves on her that she doesn't care for. Also, she thinks she's a capable agent who can get the job done without the help of an obnoxious man. Bond is more obnoxious and sexist in Moonraker than he is in almost any other film. That's why there is hostility between them. It has nothing to do with their countries. I think the relationship between Bond and Goodhead was very well developed. And I think the joint venture between the two countries might have something to do with outer space.
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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    In SF when Silva and his men enter the enquiry building and shoot the policemen at the metal detector, everyone in the enquiry building would've heard it. But thematically I understand why they did it so Silva can have his surprise entrance.
  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    Just watched TWINE on blu-ray. Wow, what a Bond film. Easily one of the high points of the series.

    Agreed!

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  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    here's a little niggle from the bonus feature interview segments: Lois Chiles regrets this role as she fancies herself a serious actress and sees the BondGirl roll as degrading eyecandy, yet she herself was the first really competent Bondgirl as equal who shares the responsibility of saving the world, basically rewriting the expectations of the leading lady character for the next several films

    I've become less and less enamored by her character and mostly her performance. She's stunning - but the way she plays her character is either purposely disinterested (too cool) or that's just her shtick. There's also little chemistry between the two characters, that and the tit for tat element from TSWLM doesn't play as well in MR.

    She does have some good lines though, despite the chauvinism being played up for comedy:

    "Your powers of observation do you credit Mr. Bond" "If you're trying to be ingratiating Mr. Bond, don't bother." "I can't right now, but I'm sure I shall."
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  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    She's stunning - but the way she plays her character is either purposely disinterested (too cool) or that's just her shtick.

    Good thing Bond came prepared for a frosty reception.

    I like Lois' downplayed performance. Reminds me of a classy film noir dame like Lauren Bacall. It's also nice to see a woman dislike Bond every now and then…or at least playing hard to get.
    Matt S wrote:
    Bond is more obnoxious and sexist in Moonraker than he is in almost any other film.

    Bond is obnoxious for a minute when he interrupts her during the tour and that annoys me as well. I suppose they were trying to set up some "friction" between the pair. However, I do NOT see Bond as being more sexist in MR than normal.
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  • MarcAngeDracoMarcAngeDraco Piz GloriaPosts: 564MI6 Agent

    "If you're trying to be ingratiating Mr. Bond, don't bother." "I can't right now, but I'm sure I shall."

    These grate on me when I watch Moonraker, simply because of her delivery. For a very long time, Dr Goodhead was one of my least favourite main Bond girls alongside Pam and Jinx, but I've since mellowed. But I do like the comparison between Chiles and Bacall... Might enhance my next viewing because of it!
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  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    But I do like the comparison between Chiles and Bacall... Might enhance my next viewing because of it!

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    I do agree that Bond is slightly more sexist in MR, than the surrounding films. He doesn't call out anything sexist in TSWLM with the fact XXX is a woman.

    "But then again, I keep forgetting that you're more than just a beautiful woman." Is a horrible line :))
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent

    "If you're trying to be ingratiating Mr. Bond, don't bother." "I can't right now, but I'm sure I shall."

    These grate on me when I watch Moonraker, simply because of her delivery. For a very long time, Dr Goodhead was one of my least favourite main Bond girls alongside Pam and Jinx, but I've since mellowed. But I do like the comparison between Chiles and Bacall... Might enhance my next viewing because of it!

    Her delivery of those lines, as well as the lines themselves, always puzzled me a little. Goodhead is trying to show that she's smarter and better than Bond in rejecting him, just to rub it in. To me, the delivery works in that the character is supposed to be trying too hard.
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  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Goodhead is trying to show that she's smarter and better than Bond in rejecting him, just to rub it in. To me, the delivery works in that the character is supposed to be trying too hard.

    Is that Christopher Wood subtly sticking the middle-finger at feminism? :))
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Goodhead is trying to show that she's smarter and better than Bond in rejecting him, just to rub it in. To me, the delivery works in that the character is supposed to be trying too hard.

    Is that Christopher Wood subtly sticking the middle-finger at feminism? :))

    Perhaps. Goodhead is constantly trying to be better than Bond in the first half of the film. We lose a little of that when she sleeps with him in Venice, but I think she sleeps with him for her own pleasure and not his. She lies to him about her travels when many girls after sleeping with Bond would do anything Bond asks. She's no Solitaire, Andrea or Corinne. Then when they meet again on Sugarloaf, Goodhead is again cold to Bond, though warmed up a little. Dr. Goodhead is one of the most feminist Bond girls, yet even Bond wins her over. And he does it long before the end of the film when Bond protects her from Jaws in the cable car attack. Yet through the whole film she shows herself to be a capable woman who can fight well and pilot a space shuttle, which is something Bond can't do. Showing that even a sexist like Bond can win over a feminist is a knock against feminism, yet Goodhead never is placed below Bond. She is shown to mostly be Bond's equal. Neither of them are capable of fighting Jaws on the cable car. Both of them are captured, and Bond is only able to rescue her because he's equipped with the explosive in his watch, not because he can do anything she can't do. Goodhead never becomes the damsel in distress that Anya is aboard Atlantis at the end. And she never becomes a sex object. She gets Bond to respect her as his equal, and that is ultimately a win for feminism. In future Bond films, Bond generally treats women with more respect than he did before.
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  • hehadlotsofgutshehadlotsofguts Durham England Posts: 2,107MI6 Agent
    Recently watched Dr No and something has occurred to me, regarding No, himself.

    Why does he speak with a RP accent, if he's supposed to be Chinese/German? When he's describing his journey to becoming involved with SPECTRE, he doesn't mention spending time in England, so the accent is confusing.

    Joseph Wiseman is Canadian, but he was a Shakespearian actor and he would've had training to lose his Canadian accent. But it doesn't explain his accent in the film.
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  • OakvaleOakvale Pennsylvania Posts: 155MI6 Agent
    Recently watched Dr No and something has occurred to me, regarding No, himself.

    Why does he speak with a RP accent, if he's supposed to be Chinese/German? When he's describing his journey to becoming involved with SPECTRE, he doesn't mention spending time in England, so the accent is confusing.

    Joseph Wiseman is Canadian, but he was a Shakespearian actor and he would've had training to lose his Canadian accent. But it doesn't explain his accent in the film.

    I can't remember the film exactly, as it's been a while, but is it explicitly said that he is Chinese in it? I know it does in the book.
  • hehadlotsofgutshehadlotsofguts Durham England Posts: 2,107MI6 Agent
    Oakvale wrote:
    Recently watched Dr No and something has occurred to me, regarding No, himself.

    Why does he speak with a RP accent, if he's supposed to be Chinese/German? When he's describing his journey to becoming involved with SPECTRE, he doesn't mention spending time in England, so the accent is confusing.

    Joseph Wiseman is Canadian, but he was a Shakespearian actor and he would've had training to lose his Canadian accent. But it doesn't explain his accent in the film.

    I can't remember the film exactly, as it's been a while, but is it explicitly said that he is Chinese in it? I know it does in the book.

    He's half Chinese on his mother's side. He also mentions that he became treasurer of the most powerful criminal group in China.
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