YOLT, the issue isn't Connery...

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  • FiremassFiremass AlaskaPosts: 1,910MI6 Agent
    I'm saying that the character starts sleepwalking in GF, not Connery. His performance in GF is so good that it isn't as obvious...

    It's not fair to say, "The issue isn't Connery...it's Bond." (Because Connery IS Bond)
    Any criticism of the character of Bond ultimately comes back to Connery. So your thread contradicts itself. :s
    My current 10 favorite:

    1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Firemass wrote:
    I'm saying that the character starts sleepwalking in GF, not Connery. His performance in GF is so good that it isn't as obvious...

    It's not fair to say, "The issue isn't Connery...it's Bond." (Because Connery IS Bond)
    Any criticism of the character of Bond ultimately comes back to Connery. So your thread contradicts itself. :s

    Bond is much more than the actor playing him. The way the character is written counts for a lot. Bond hardly does anything in Goldfinger. That's hardly Connery's fault when he's written to be a prisoner for a large part of the film.
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  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Firemass wrote:
    I'm saying that the character starts sleepwalking in GF, not Connery. His performance in GF is so good that it isn't as obvious...

    It's not fair to say, "The issue isn't Connery...it's Bond." (Because Connery IS Bond)
    Any criticism of the character of Bond ultimately comes back to Connery. So your thread contradicts itself. :s

    Bond is much more than the actor playing him. The way the character is written counts for a lot. Bond hardly does anything in Goldfinger. That's hardly Connery's fault when he's written to be a prisoner for a large part of the film.

    Thank you Matt.

    Connery isn't Barbra Streisand - he doesn't write, direct and act :))
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

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  • OakvaleOakvale Pennsylvania Posts: 155MI6 Agent
    How would everyone improve YOLT and make it a better film?
  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    Oakvale wrote:
    How would everyone improve YOLT and make it a better film?

    I'd only shuffle a few elements around to make the intrigue of the film better. We know too much too early, the only sustaining interest in the film is the knowledge of the impending finale.

    I also feel that Bond has limited effect on the way the mission plays out, he gets placed into locations and situations. Be better if there was more connected espionage elements - like the excellent late night fight at Osato's office etc. Little Nellie, Ninja school, fishing village, sumo match - they're all just "insert here" elements.
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

    "Better make that two."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    Oakvale wrote:
    How would everyone improve YOLT and make it a better film?
    CGI in a better volcano eruption, and make Donald Pleasance look taller & bigger than Sean. Not so difficult. :D
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • OakvaleOakvale Pennsylvania Posts: 155MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Oakvale wrote:
    How would everyone improve YOLT and make it a better film?
    CGI in a better volcano eruption, and make Donald Pleasance look taller & bigger than Sean. Not so difficult. :D

    Or just CGI in Anthony Dawson and use Eric Pohlmann's voice.

    On a more serious note, I would give Osato a bigger and better role in the film, have him be more of a secondary villain to Blofeld, with him perhaps turning on the latter later on.
  • MarcAngeDracoMarcAngeDraco Piz GloriaPosts: 564MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Oakvale wrote:
    How would everyone improve YOLT and make it a better film?
    CGI in a better volcano eruption

    But then in 50 years time, technology would have advanced and the CGI would look as dated as the footage we got. When one has to resort to technology to make something happen/look convincing, then one isn't making a Bond film correctly.
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    But then in 50 years time, technology would have advanced and the CGI would look as dated as the footage we got.
    I don't mind dated, I just mind bad. That eruption was BAD. So blow up a model volcano & insert THAT instead, I don't care, as long as it looks better than what we got. :))
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    If you check out " our man flint" another over the top spy flick, you'll see it has the same
    Standard of special effects. So I'm guessing what we got, was the best that could be done. :)
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    But then in 50 years time, technology would have advanced and the CGI would look as dated as the footage we got.
    I don't mind dated, I just mind bad. That eruption was BAD. So blow up a model volcano & insert THAT instead, I don't care, as long as it looks better than what we got. :))

    They should have used sodium bicarbonate. :))
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  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    They should have used sodium bicarbonate.

    Hardly, we are much more sophisticated than that... ;)
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

    "Better make that two."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    If you check out " our man flint" another over the top spy flick, you'll see it has the same
    Standard of special effects. So I'm guessing what we got, was the best that could be done. :)
    Yet just one year later Kubrick's 2001 came out, so not, not the best effects possible, LOL.

    Here's something I just found:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8RI6zoi9Cc
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    If only the Bond crew had have used their time machine to go forward in time to
    Get a few new techniques :))
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  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    The special effects in 2001 are out of this world B-) MR seems to copy much of the aesthetic due to the model work which results in lots of white and brightness. As opposed to some other space flicks which are darker.
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

    "Better make that two."
  • CoolHandBondCoolHandBond Mactan IslandPosts: 6,030MI6 Agent
    If you check out " our man flint" another over the top spy flick, you'll see it has the same
    Standard of special effects. So I'm guessing what we got, was the best that could be done. :)

    I think the special effects in Our Man Flint are much better. The scenes of the flood are really "special".
    Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
  • superadosuperado Regent's Park West (CaliforniaPosts: 2,651MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    If you check out " our man flint" another over the top spy flick, you'll see it has the same
    Standard of special effects. So I'm guessing what we got, was the best that could be done. :)
    Yet just one year later Kubrick's 2001 came out, so not, not the best effects possible, LOL.

    Here's something I just found:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8RI6zoi9Cc

    And yet 2001 became in its own time state-of-the-art and in a class of its own, with several before its effects became standard in the industry. As things stands, YOLT's effects were good for its time and if it wasn't good enough, then perhaps all the space sequences should have been left off-screen. On what can be changed with YOLT? With everything given (and they really were, such as Jan Werich's illness), nothing. It is considerably acceptable as it is.
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    superado wrote:
    Jan Werich's illness

    Or Jan Werich's alleged "illness". Not meaning to interrupt.
  • superadosuperado Regent's Park West (CaliforniaPosts: 2,651MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    superado wrote:
    Jan Werich's illness

    Or Jan Werich's "illness". Not meaning to interrupt.

    Lol, so it wasn't an illness as I remembered it...I blame the Mandela effect :))
    "...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
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