Bond 25, shooting news and Rumours. ( possible Spoilers)

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  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,234MI6 Agent
    HowardB wrote:
    that Nolan would want to do his own Bond trilogy with his own Bond.

    I've always thought a Nolan Blofeld Trilogy would be epic
    1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

    1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
  • HMSS WeblogHMSS Weblog Posts: 14MI6 Agent
    HowardB wrote:
    Nolan is a talented guy and certainly can handle big "tent pole" films. He's also a big Bond fan and the Bond influence is pretty obvious in "Inception". The problem is (and this is only my theory) that Nolan would want to do his own Bond trilogy with his own Bond. I believe he would be happy to retain the Bond Theme, the Gun Barrel opening and much of the Bond canon....but beyond that it would be "thank you EON, thank you MGM, thank you 3rd wheel distribution partner for all the $$$$$$ now let go off and make my James Bond movie" and EON does not play that way. Today's EON isn't the EON of Cubby and Harry given the input they have allowed Mendes and Craig but EON still "makes" James Bond films...they just don't supply money to someone else to deliver them a film. Now is it possible that a happy medium could be reached between EON and Nolan.....possibly......but I doubt it will happen.

    Also, Nolan comes with his own posse, including his own production company, Syncopy, and his wife, Emma Thomas, who gets a producer credit on the films Nolan directs.

    For a Nolan-direct Bond to happen, either Eon or Nolan/Syncopy or both would have to compromise.
  • Miles MesservyMiles Messervy Posts: 1,757MI6 Agent
    HowardB wrote:
    Nolan is a talented guy and certainly can handle big "tent pole" films. He's also a big Bond fan and the Bond influence is pretty obvious in "Inception". The problem is (and this is only my theory) that Nolan would want to do his own Bond trilogy with his own Bond. I believe he would be happy to retain the Bond Theme, the Gun Barrel opening and much of the Bond canon....but beyond that it would be "thank you EON, thank you MGM, thank you 3rd wheel distribution partner for all the $$$$$$ now let go off and make my James Bond movie" and EON does not play that way. Today's EON isn't the EON of Cubby and Harry given the input they have allowed Mendes and Craig but EON still "makes" James Bond films...they just don't supply money to someone else to deliver them a film. Now is it possible that a happy medium could be reached between EON and Nolan.....possibly......but I doubt it will happen.

    Also, Nolan comes with his own posse, including his own production company, Syncopy, and his wife, Emma Thomas, who gets a producer credit on the films Nolan directs.

    He also comes with Zimmer, which wouldn't excite me. On the plus side, we'd be rid of Ms. Temime!
  • armenianmoviemanarmenianmovieman The 818Posts: 672MI6 Agent
    My theory that I'd probably bet on.......

    When Craig's tenure is done, they'll bring Nolan in to generate hype and help pick a new Bond. It'll be 2021 or 2022.....

    Nolan will make 1 more movie after Dunkirk and then will move on to Bond.

    Fun fact: the Hong Kong escape from The Dark Knight is straight outta Thunderball, and the Dark Knight Rises plane prologue is straight out of License to Kill.
    Yes. Consssssiderably.
  • HalfMonk HalfHitmanHalfMonk HalfHitman USAPosts: 2,324MI6 Agent
    Nolan's never directing a Bond movie.
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    HowardB wrote:
    Nolan is a talented guy and certainly can handle big "tent pole" films. He's also a big Bond fan and the Bond influence is pretty obvious in "Inception". The problem is (and this is only my theory) that Nolan would want to do his own Bond trilogy with his own Bond. I believe he would be happy to retain the Bond Theme, the Gun Barrel opening and much of the Bond canon....but beyond that it would be "thank you EON, thank you MGM, thank you 3rd wheel distribution partner for all the $$$$$$ now let go off and make my James Bond movie" and EON does not play that way. Today's EON isn't the EON of Cubby and Harry given the input they have allowed Mendes and Craig but EON still "makes" James Bond films...they just don't supply money to someone else to deliver them a film. Now is it possible that a happy medium could be reached between EON and Nolan.....possibly......but I doubt it will happen.

    Also, Nolan comes with his own posse, including his own production company, Syncopy, and his wife, Emma Thomas, who gets a producer credit on the films Nolan directs.

    He also comes with Zimmer, which wouldn't excite me. On the plus side, we'd be rid of Ms. Temime!

    Zimmer is the biggest reason why I wouldn't want Nolan. Unlike Newman, Zimmer at least understands action films, but Zimmer's aesthetic isn't right for Bond. At least Newman wrote something new for Skyfall, whilst Zimmer would just recycle everything else he's been doing for Bond.
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  • willmizewillmize Posts: 2MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    I think the Nolan brothers could make an excellent Bond movie :007)
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  • Gala BrandGala Brand Posts: 1,172MI6 Agent
    HowardB wrote:
    Nolan is a talented guy and certainly can handle big "tent pole" films. He's also a big Bond fan and the Bond influence is pretty obvious in "Inception". The problem is (and this is only my theory) that Nolan would want to do his own Bond trilogy with his own Bond. I believe he would be happy to retain the Bond Theme, the Gun Barrel opening and much of the Bond canon....but beyond that it would be "thank you EON, thank you MGM, thank you 3rd wheel distribution partner for all the $$$$$$ now let go off and make my James Bond movie" and EON does not play that way. Today's EON isn't the EON of Cubby and Harry given the input they have allowed Mendes and Craig but EON still "makes" James Bond films...they just don't supply money to someone else to deliver them a film. Now is it possible that a happy medium could be reached between EON and Nolan.....possibly......but I doubt it will happen.

    Actually EON doesn't supply any of the funding for the Bond films. They are financed 100% by MGM and its distribution partner.

    But, yeah, the big problem with EON is that it won't want to give up creative control. I think Mendes found that out on "Spectre."
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    Nolan's never directing a Bond movie.
    probably not, Skyfall is as close to a Nolan Bond film as we'll get.
  • HMSS WeblogHMSS Weblog Posts: 14MI6 Agent
    Nolan's never directing a Bond movie.
    probably not, Skyfall is as close to a Nolan Bond film as we'll get.

    Including the elevator scene, where Newman provided Zimmer-lite music.
  • nafets47nafets47 FloridaPosts: 939MI6 Agent
    On the plus side, we'd be rid of Ms. Temime!

    I think she does a fantastic job, DC always looks great in the films. Some might disagree with the fit, but that is the style of today. -{
    -
    I agree that Nolan should give Bond a swing (never gonna happen), if what he did to Batman is any prediction of what he could do with a character who already is doing well man that would be a great movie to send off DC.
  • Revolver66Revolver66 Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 470MI6 Agent
    Matthew Vaughn or Danny Boyle would be good picks for Bond. Would also actually be greatly interested to see Nolan do a Bond film but I'd want him to do one with Craig. Also I would love to see Martin Scorsese helm a Bond film. Imagine that :)) It will never happen but it would be great. That man can do anything
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,704MI6 Agent
    There are several less obvious directors who should be considered:

    Joe Cornish (Ant-Man, Tintin, Attack the block)

    Joe Wright. (Hannah, Atonement)

    Duncan Jones (Moon, Source Code, Warcraft)

    Steve McQueen (12 years a slave)
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,704MI6 Agent
    I actually thought, while watching Tintin, that these people could make a good Bond film :s
    An odd thought about an animated movie, but Brad Bird did OK making Mission Impossible.
    Tintin had a sense of adventure, humor and a cinematic flair I enjoyed. But what won me over were the action scenes. They were inventive, had good forward motion, were cut effectively and I love the way they kept building. This was something Bond movies did better than anyone: All the time adding new elements to an action scene until the grand finale.

    I have't seen Ant-Man, but I hear it's very good. I did watch Attack the Block. It was lower budget, but it was original (inner-city youth fighting alien invaders), had heart and and delivered on the action.
  • Revolver66Revolver66 Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 470MI6 Agent
    Are you talking about Tintin the movie? Because if so then you'll find that Spielberg directed that.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,704MI6 Agent
    My mistanke. When I read Joe Cornish's IMDB-entry, I wasn't aware I was looking at his writing credits, not his directing credits. He wrote the movie with Stephen Moffat and Edgar Wright. Of the movies I listed, he only directed Attack the Block. Perhaps he should be hires to write Bond instead, because his directing experienced is a bit thin.
  • CheverianCheverian Posts: 1,446MI6 Agent
    nafets47 wrote:
    On the plus side, we'd be rid of Ms. Temime!

    I think she does a fantastic job, DC always looks great in the films. Some might disagree with the fit, but that is the style of today. -{
    -
    I agree that Nolan should give Bond a swing (never gonna happen), if what he did to Batman is any prediction of what he could do with a character who already is doing well man that would be a great movie to send off DC.

    Every time Nolan's name is floated I recall the observation (sorry, I don't remember who said this) that his films are almost bizarrely asexual. In that regard he would be a horrible choice for Bond.
  • HalfMonk HalfHitmanHalfMonk HalfHitman USAPosts: 2,324MI6 Agent
    Cheverian wrote:
    nafets47 wrote:
    On the plus side, we'd be rid of Ms. Temime!

    I think she does a fantastic job, DC always looks great in the films. Some might disagree with the fit, but that is the style of today. -{
    -
    I agree that Nolan should give Bond a swing (never gonna happen), if what he did to Batman is any prediction of what he could do with a character who already is doing well man that would be a great movie to send off DC.

    Every time Nolan's name is floated I recall the observation (sorry, I don't remember who said this) that his films are almost bizarrely asexual. In that regard he would be a horrible choice for Bond.

    +1
  • OmegamanOmegaman Posts: 18MI6 Agent
    Cheverian wrote:
    nafets47 wrote:

    I think she does a fantastic job, DC always looks great in the films. Some might disagree with the fit, but that is the style of today. -{
    -
    I agree that Nolan should give Bond a swing (never gonna happen), if what he did to Batman is any prediction of what he could do with a character who already is doing well man that would be a great movie to send off DC.

    Every time Nolan's name is floated I recall the observation (sorry, I don't remember who said this) that his films are almost bizarrely asexual. In that regard he would be a horrible choice for Bond.

    +1

    Christopher Nolan directing James Bond might make a good movie, but then I find his movies incredibly tedious. All his movies heavily revolve around grieving men. Memento, dead wife. Batman, dead parents & dead girlfriend. Prestige, 2 dead wives. Inception, dead wife. Interstellar, dead everyone. Actually I haven't seen Interstellar, but I'm sure there's a dead wife in there somewhere. Now he's doing Dunkirk where there'll be lots of grieving soldiers. If Nolan was to do a sequel to Spectre, he'd most certainly kill Swann and have Bond moping about grieving her.
  • armenianmoviemanarmenianmovieman The 818Posts: 672MI6 Agent
    Gala Brand wrote:
    HowardB wrote:
    Nolan is a talented guy and certainly can handle big "tent pole" films. He's also a big Bond fan and the Bond influence is pretty obvious in "Inception". The problem is (and this is only my theory) that Nolan would want to do his own Bond trilogy with his own Bond. I believe he would be happy to retain the Bond Theme, the Gun Barrel opening and much of the Bond canon....but beyond that it would be "thank you EON, thank you MGM, thank you 3rd wheel distribution partner for all the $$$$$$ now let go off and make my James Bond movie" and EON does not play that way. Today's EON isn't the EON of Cubby and Harry given the input they have allowed Mendes and Craig but EON still "makes" James Bond films...they just don't supply money to someone else to deliver them a film. Now is it possible that a happy medium could be reached between EON and Nolan.....possibly......but I doubt it will happen.

    Actually EON doesn't supply any of the funding for the Bond films. They are financed 100% by MGM and its distribution partner.

    But, yeah, the big problem with EON is that it won't want to give up creative control. I think Mendes found that out on "Spectre."

    Even if only because of the billion dollars Skyfall made, Mendes did get his way on Spectre....
    Yes. Consssssiderably.
  • Gala BrandGala Brand Posts: 1,172MI6 Agent
    Gala Brand wrote:
    HowardB wrote:
    Nolan is a talented guy and certainly can handle big "tent pole" films. He's also a big Bond fan and the Bond influence is pretty obvious in "Inception". The problem is (and this is only my theory) that Nolan would want to do his own Bond trilogy with his own Bond. I believe he would be happy to retain the Bond Theme, the Gun Barrel opening and much of the Bond canon....but beyond that it would be "thank you EON, thank you MGM, thank you 3rd wheel distribution partner for all the $$$$$$ now let go off and make my James Bond movie" and EON does not play that way. Today's EON isn't the EON of Cubby and Harry given the input they have allowed Mendes and Craig but EON still "makes" James Bond films...they just don't supply money to someone else to deliver them a film. Now is it possible that a happy medium could be reached between EON and Nolan.....possibly......but I doubt it will happen.

    Actually EON doesn't supply any of the funding for the Bond films. They are financed 100% by MGM and its distribution partner.

    But, yeah, the big problem with EON is that it won't want to give up creative control. I think Mendes found that out on "Spectre."

    Even if only because of the billion dollars Skyfall made, Mendes did get his way on Spectre....

    Respectfully, Mendes didn't get what he wanted. The script that he and Logan put together was largely rejected.

    Mendes thought he was going to get creative control after Skyfall made over a billion dollars and won almost universal approval from the critics, but it wasn't to be.
  • Miles MesservyMiles Messervy Posts: 1,757MI6 Agent
    Gala Brand wrote:
    Gala Brand wrote:

    Actually EON doesn't supply any of the funding for the Bond films. They are financed 100% by MGM and its distribution partner.

    But, yeah, the big problem with EON is that it won't want to give up creative control. I think Mendes found that out on "Spectre."

    Even if only because of the billion dollars Skyfall made, Mendes did get his way on Spectre....

    Respectfully, Mendes didn't get what he wanted. The script that he and Logan put together was largely rejected.

    Mendes thought he was going to get creative control after Skyfall made over a billion dollars and won almost universal approval from the critics, but it wasn't to be.

    From what I know of that script, it's good that EON rejected it.
  • Gala BrandGala Brand Posts: 1,172MI6 Agent
    Gala Brand wrote:

    Even if only because of the billion dollars Skyfall made, Mendes did get his way on Spectre....

    Respectfully, Mendes didn't get what he wanted. The script that he and Logan put together was largely rejected.

    Mendes thought he was going to get creative control after Skyfall made over a billion dollars and won almost universal approval from the critics, but it wasn't to be.

    From what I know of that script, it's good that EON rejected it.

    We'll never know. The point is, Mendes thought he hung the moon with Skyfall but it didn't mean much to EON.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,704MI6 Agent
    I'm really hoping for some real news. When is it realistic to hear anything substancial, mainly if Craig stays for another movie and who the next director is?
  • HMSS WeblogHMSS Weblog Posts: 14MI6 Agent
    Gala Brand wrote:
    Gala Brand wrote:

    Respectfully, Mendes didn't get what he wanted. The script that he and Logan put together was largely rejected.

    Mendes thought he was going to get creative control after Skyfall made over a billion dollars and won almost universal approval from the critics, but it wasn't to be.

    From what I know of that script, it's good that EON rejected it.

    We'll never know. The point is, Mendes thought he hung the moon with Skyfall but it didn't mean much to EON.

    Because of the Sony hacks, we know some of the details. 1) There was a version where the villain was an African warlord who used Blofeld as an alias 2) There was a version with a woman Blofeld 3) There was a version where M was the traitor but Fiennes refused to do it 4) Tanner was a traitor, eventually commits suicide while Bond watches 5) Leiter was in one version, eventually meets up with Moneypenny and calls her a "foxy lady."
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,292MI6 Agent
    Think number 5 sounded best bet lol
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,704MI6 Agent
    Gala Brand wrote:

    From what I know of that script, it's good that EON rejected it.

    We'll never know. The point is, Mendes thought he hung the moon with Skyfall but it didn't mean much to EON.

    Because of the Sony hacks, we know some of the details. 1) There was a version where the villain was an African warlord who used Blofeld as an alias 2) There was a version with a woman Blofeld 3) There was a version where M was the traitor but Fiennes refused to do it 4) Tanner was a traitor, eventually commits suicide while Bond watches 5) Leiter was in one version, eventually meets up with Moneypenny and calls her a "foxy lady."

    Are you serious or was this post ment for the Exeedingly Accurate Rumours thread?
  • Gala BrandGala Brand Posts: 1,172MI6 Agent
    Gala Brand wrote:

    From what I know of that script, it's good that EON rejected it.

    We'll never know. The point is, Mendes thought he hung the moon with Skyfall but it didn't mean much to EON.

    Because of the Sony hacks, we know some of the details. 1) There was a version where the villain was an African warlord who used Blofeld as an alias 2) There was a version with a woman Blofeld 3) There was a version where M was the traitor but Fiennes refused to do it 4) Tanner was a traitor, eventually commits suicide while Bond watches 5) Leiter was in one version, eventually meets up with Moneypenny and calls her a "foxy lady."

    There was a version that starts with Bond in a cage match, there is a version with an interesting Blofeld reveal, there is a version with Bond and Blofeld eating dinner together that was supposed to be pretty good, parkour on skis, a death mask ball. These all sound interesting. They could be well done. Or not.

    Most importantly, the original script did not have Bond and Blofeld as foster brothers, which was one of the worst ideas in the history of the franchise.

    It did, however, have the idea that Blofeld was behind everything, which was really dumb.

    Almost anything can be done well. Or not. We'll never know if Mendes's version could've been better.

    And you seem to be quite determined to miss the point I'm trying to make.
  • HMSS WeblogHMSS Weblog Posts: 14MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    Gala Brand wrote:

    We'll never know. The point is, Mendes thought he hung the moon with Skyfall but it didn't mean much to EON.

    Because of the Sony hacks, we know some of the details. 1) There was a version where the villain was an African warlord who used Blofeld as an alias 2) There was a version with a woman Blofeld 3) There was a version where M was the traitor but Fiennes refused to do it 4) Tanner was a traitor, eventually commits suicide while Bond watches 5) Leiter was in one version, eventually meets up with Moneypenny and calls her a "foxy lady."

    Are you serious or was this post ment for the Exeedingly Accurate Rumours thread?

    They're all serious. Studio execs would write notes based on what happened on what page of the script draft.
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