Walther PPK

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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent
    ppw3o6r wrote:
    I blue mein guns wiv syrup und Pumpernickel paste....it looks sh*te but tastes good viv und burger! :))
    Well there we have it, syrup and pumpernickel is the definitive from the consumate ppk man. What kind of syrup? Herr Donkey?
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • ppw3o6rppw3o6r Great BritainPosts: 2,271MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    ppw3o6r wrote:
    I blue mein guns wiv syrup und Pumpernickel paste....it looks sh*te but tastes good viv und burger! :))
    Well there we have it, syrup and pumpernickel is the definitive from the consumate ppk man. What kind of syrup? Herr Donkey?

    Runny Syrup preferably vacuum zealed ov 1942 Vintage und Reich stampedd!....Ahhh Reich stampedddd....I vequire za neu pantaloons! :#
  • Bond44Bond44 Vauxhall CrossPosts: 1,581MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Bond44 wrote:
    7289 wrote:
    Having blued firearms professionally for quite a few years I would suggest leaving your PPK alone!

    The factory legend on the slide is etched and just walking the part near a buffing wheel will seriously degrade it. Properly refinishing a pistol is very time consuming and even here in the USA only about one out of a thousand "gunsmiths" can do a nice firearm justice. Cold blue products use acid to color the metal and can cause rusting if you're not careful. They also eat away at the original bluing. A nice PPK with honest wear can be wrecked by trying to spiff it up (don't ask how I know this).

    Besides, take a look at the pistols used in the films (when they were real and not cast replicas) you will find them pretty well worn. Too bad a nice pistol like that PPK had to be deactivated ... don't add insult to injury. In the end it's your pistol Bond44.

    Thanks for the feedback and I do see your point. It's not something I will be rushing into. I think if I fit Black hand grips and finger extension that will tone the colour down naturally (the current colour contrast may be what is bugging me). So I will work on that and see how it looks first then decide if I take further action.

    As you say the real weapons used in the film are far from perfect (must be my OCD kicking in)

    Great insight though thanks guys

    Cheers :007)

    To be fair my ppk was in a pretty similar condition at one time, but after a good strip down and clean and a touch up it looks like this now
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    And this is the finish I got on the ppk/s with cold blueing using Philips on the slide

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    Some sound advice given, but I've found it is possible to touch up a gun to an OK standard. Though some may look at my pictures and disagree :))
    Chris

    Looks good I will take a look - after all this PPK is now in retirement and will be little more then a desk prop so a touch up may be all it needs rather than an overhaul

    Cheers :007)
    My name is Bond, Basildon Bond - I have letters after my name!
  • BCFDRayBCFDRay Joppa, MarylandPosts: 373MI6 Agent
    Just an FYI, if you do the bluing touch up yourself and decide you don't like it and would prefer a professional rebluing, the kit I used comes with a bluing removal solvent.

    [url]https://www.birchwoodcasey.com/Refinishing/Metal-Finishing/Perma-Blue®-Gun-Blue-Kit.aspx[/url]

    I did ultimately send mine out to be reblued professionally, but mine was in very rough shape. As stated, the sanding and buffing will effect the sharpness of the engravings on the slide, but I did that part myself.
  • CajunCajun Posts: 483MI6 Agent
    jbholsters wrote:
    there is one up now, but at $769.00 and reserve not met. :s
    http://www.gunbroker.com/item/635422234
    Yeah, the opening bid on that one is a bit ambitious for not being NIB and not completely rollmarked.
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  • Bond44Bond44 Vauxhall CrossPosts: 1,581MI6 Agent
    And now with black grips thanks to a very kind AJB member!

    Just need than black finger extension and some Philips gun blue and it's job done

    Cheers :007)


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    My name is Bond, Basildon Bond - I have letters after my name!
  • BCFDRayBCFDRay Joppa, MarylandPosts: 373MI6 Agent
    Looking good my friend!
  • Bond44Bond44 Vauxhall CrossPosts: 1,581MI6 Agent
    BCFDRay wrote:
    Looking good my friend!
    Thanks already liking the darker look with black grips!
    My name is Bond, Basildon Bond - I have letters after my name!
  • CajunCajun Posts: 483MI6 Agent
    Looks great as is IMO.

    I don't think any of the screen-used PPKs were in mint condition, which is the absolute reality regarding most agency-issued duty pistols.

    Just my $.02. :007)
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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,485MI6 Agent
    Brozzas were minty mint. Straight off the production line virtually.
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  • ppw3o6rppw3o6r Great BritainPosts: 2,271MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    Brozzas were minty mint. Straight off the production line virtually.

    Sir Roger's PPK on L&LD was a 73 issue also straight out of the box! ... then Misty Eyes got his hands on it :D
  • Bond44Bond44 Vauxhall CrossPosts: 1,581MI6 Agent
    This is a long shot does anyone have a black finger extension for a PPK 7.65mm magazine?
    Or magazine complete with black finger extension? Shopped around in UK and they seem in short supply.

    Cheers :007)
    My name is Bond, Basildon Bond - I have letters after my name!
  • BCFDRayBCFDRay Joppa, MarylandPosts: 373MI6 Agent
    Bond44 wrote:
    This is a long shot does anyone have a black finger extension for a PPK 7.65mm magazine?
    Or magazine complete with black finger extension? Shopped around in UK and they seem in short supply.

    Cheers :007)

    This seller has a few on ebay

    Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/222475708441
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent
    Bond44 wrote:
    This is a long shot does anyone have a black finger extension for a PPK 7.65mm magazine?
    Or magazine complete with black finger extension? Shopped around in UK and they seem in short supply.

    Cheers :007)
    D and b have a full mag with extension for £35, but it's in. 380 guise. Not sure if it would fit a 7.65 mag or not? Maybe worth an ask
    http://www.dandbmilitaria.com/walther-ppk-380-magazine
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,485MI6 Agent
    The mag spurs are interchangeable.
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  • sniperUKsniperUK UlsterPosts: 594MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    The mag spurs are interchangeable.

    Yep. I "borrowed" one from my sons issue PP :D
  • Greg137blueGreg137blue milford michiganPosts: 74MI6 Agent
    Aquired this chamber dated 66. (1966) I love it !. But it put a dent in my Levi's menlo jacket funds . Lol.
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  • Bond44Bond44 Vauxhall CrossPosts: 1,581MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Bond44 wrote:
    This is a long shot does anyone have a black finger extension for a PPK 7.65mm magazine?
    Or magazine complete with black finger extension? Shopped around in UK and they seem in short supply.

    Cheers :007)
    D and b have a full mag with extension for £35, but it's in. 380 guise. Not sure if it would fit a 7.65 mag or not? Maybe worth an ask
    http://www.dandbmilitaria.com/walther-ppk-380-magazine
    Been there tried that they are a different size so they tell me. Said they usually have quiet a few just bad timing just not now - typical

    Cheers :007)
    My name is Bond, Basildon Bond - I have letters after my name!
  • Bond44Bond44 Vauxhall CrossPosts: 1,581MI6 Agent
    BCFDRay wrote:
    Bond44 wrote:
    This is a long shot does anyone have a black finger extension for a PPK 7.65mm magazine?
    Or magazine complete with black finger extension? Shopped around in UK and they seem in short supply.

    Cheers :007)

    This seller has a few on ebay

    Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/222475708441
    Interesting that never came up on my eBay search. All the ones I found are US based companies that do not post to U.K for some reason hence why I was look on home shores first.

    I will take a look

    Cheers :007)
    My name is Bond, Basildon Bond - I have letters after my name!
  • Bond44Bond44 Vauxhall CrossPosts: 1,581MI6 Agent
    edited April 2017
    Asp9mm wrote:
    The mag spurs are interchangeable.
    Interchangeable between .380 and .32 mags? D&B said not or I would have given it a punt.

    Cheers :007)
    My name is Bond, Basildon Bond - I have letters after my name!
  • Dirty PunkerDirty Punker ...Your Eyes Only, darling."Posts: 2,587MI6 Agent
    A question: is the mag spur redundant on a PPK/S? The PP frame is large enough, already. Isn't that overkill?
    a reasonable rate of return
  • Bond44Bond44 Vauxhall CrossPosts: 1,581MI6 Agent
    A question: is the mag spur redundant on a PPK/S? The PP frame is large enough, already. Isn't that overkill?
    Possibly on the PPK/S but definately not on the PPK. I thought it redundant there but unless you have hands like Action Man most will appreciate it or some of your fingers feel at a loose end.

    Cheers :007)
    My name is Bond, Basildon Bond - I have letters after my name!
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent
    I have mixed feelings about the spur, I found practically it compromised the ppk's almost perfect concealability in a iwb. It's fine in a shoulder rig. But in a hot climate shoulder rigs don't work. I had no problems using the ppk without the spur. With my fingers finding a comfortable position resting on the lanyard keep. Never suffered slide bite either. But horses for courses. It looks better with a spur though.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • Bond44Bond44 Vauxhall CrossPosts: 1,581MI6 Agent
    OK gave the old PKK a touch up with some Phillips gun blue looks OK.
    Just waiting on the new mag with black finger extension and it's job done

    Cheers :007)


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    My name is Bond, Basildon Bond - I have letters after my name!
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent
    Looking good, how did you find the Philips? I always give it a coat of gun oil after and bring the parts up to a warm temperature -{
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • Bond44Bond44 Vauxhall CrossPosts: 1,581MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Looking good, how did you find the Philips? I always give it a coat of gun oil after and bring the parts up to a warm temperature -{

    Took a bit of experimentation and not sure I got it right and not as dark as I was expecting but it's removed the wear marks and made it a little cleaner whilst keeping the ingrained imperfections.

    How do you normally used Phillips instructions were a tad basic.

    I am happy and it looks good with the suppressor.

    Cheers :007)
    My name is Bond, Basildon Bond - I have letters after my name!
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent
    Bond44 wrote:
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Looking good, how did you find the Philips? I always give it a coat of gun oil after and bring the parts up to a warm temperature -{

    Took a bit of experimentation and not sure I got it right and not as dark as I was expecting but it's removed the wear marks and made it a little cleaner whilst keeping the ingrained imperfections.

    How do you normally used Phillips instructions were a tad basic.

    I am happy and it looks good with the suppressor.

    Cheers :007)


    To be honest, my ppk's have been in relatively good order, suffering only holster wear to the blueing and not pitting etc, my own "service" pistol I just touched up the worn areas. But the technique was the same ( I'm a little OCD with things like this) I remove the slide and degrease and clean it then place it in the oven at a 50 degrees for 10 minutes or so then apply the Philips. I then leave it for a couple of hours and then use a soft cloth to lightly buff up, then add some gun oil. I wouldn't holster again for a couple of days but add another coat of gun oil before doing so.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • BCFDRayBCFDRay Joppa, MarylandPosts: 373MI6 Agent
    Bond44 wrote:
    OK gave the old PKK a touch up with some Phillips gun blue looks OK.
    Just waiting on the new mag with black finger extension and it's job done

    Cheers :007)


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    Looking good! Did you find the magazine spurs or still on the hunt?
  • Bond44Bond44 Vauxhall CrossPosts: 1,581MI6 Agent
    edited April 2017
    BCFDRay wrote:
    Bond44 wrote:
    OK gave the old PKK a touch up with some Phillips gun blue looks OK.
    Just waiting on the new mag with black finger extension and it's job done

    Cheers :007)


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    Looking good! Did you find the magazine spurs or still on the hunt?

    Bought a new PPK mag off Brownwells but it is shipping from USA will be here in a few weeks.
    However I think it is going to have a more modern finger extension that on older models.
    Still keeping my eyes open for an older version patience is my friend so I will keep looking.
    Plus no matter how I try cannot get the brown extension to budge so probably need complete .32 mag in the end.

    Chris - thanks for heads up I am guessing the hotter it is the darker the colour. I will give that a try when I get some time.

    Cheers :007)
    My name is Bond, Basildon Bond - I have letters after my name!
  • BCFDRayBCFDRay Joppa, MarylandPosts: 373MI6 Agent
    Question for experts. I've been reading about the Zella controversy regarding LTK and noticed the rear sight is mentioned alot as evidence it can't be a Zella factory PPK since they are fixed to the rear of the slide and a screen shot of the PPK in Bond's holster shows otherwise.
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    While browsing an auction site, I found what's labeled as a 1945 Dural framed PPK marked Zella, but with adjustable sights

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    Was this normal for dural frames, or possibly something custom?
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