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00Goldeneye wrote:

Well I'm Buying one, no matter what. Where I work at, Micro Center, we still do ajb007/confused ajb007/insane not know what we will sell The Wii for. Some of the plans are, We are told to sell high than $250, we are going to give the buyer 1 Free game of their choice, a 'Memory card' , and some other free widget, sometimes it's a $50-$75 Gift card. If it is lower, Basically the same, but just with a free game (and a 'Memory card'), it's something like we did with the 360, except it was the 'Basic' version that got the extra wigdets, because if you could buy the Premium or what the version was, you didn't need anything else! ajb007/lol

I don't know if the whole "bundling" thing will fly with Wii. Nintendo had the hardware finalized months ago and have been busily churning out units. The say they expect to have 4 million Wii's on store shelves by the end of the year and I believe them. With those kinds of numbers, outlets like Toys 'R Us and Best Buy will just sell them individually. I don't think people will be forced to get a bundle full of stuff they don't want this time around.

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Technically speaking...

I'm sick to death of just another console with upgraded graphics and a price tag to match!

PS3- too expensive, no average Uk family can afford one, plus a delayed release date will cripple them. Sony have messed up big time!{[]

Xbox360- Hasn't taken off at all! Nintendo DS systems are literally smashing this thing out the water. The games do not suit me, even a rubbish attempt at Perfect Dark can't tempt me to buy one (Rare are finished)

Those two are in danger of making consoles unaffordable and more like a PC every second of every day!

The Wii is a fantastic machine, looks good, plays good and has a very unique and fun looking controller. Finally we have something different to play with. It's the way forward gentlemen!. I think it will sell extremly well! what with the classic games and the DS doing well I'd say nintendo are the dominant force in gaming today!.

If you are easily pleased by smooth graphics then you are a simpleton! I personally think the Xbox360's graphics looks so good they are rubbish! even the cars on Project Gotham look too shiney! just not realistic!. Xbox has never been that popular, and never will!

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Rogermooreseyebrows wrote:

Xbox360- Hasn't taken off at all! Nintendo DS systems are literally smashing this thing out the water. The games do not suit me, even a rubbish attempt at Perfect Dark can't tempt me to buy one (Rare are finished)

I don't know where you're getting your information but the last time I checked, the 360 was selling great everywhere except Japan (not surprising considering their cultural bias against western hardware and lack of software that fits their culture). And comparing the DS to the 360 is really pointless: they are two totally differnt pieces of hardware at drastically different pricepoints and aimed at entirely different markets.

The Wii is a fantastic machine, looks good, plays good and has a very unique and fun looking controller. Finally we have something different to play with. It's the way forward gentlemen!. I think it will sell extremly well! what with the classic games and the DS doing well I'd say nintendo are the dominant force in gaming today!.

Have you actually played one? Last I checked most games looked really inferior compared to software available on other consoles. 3rd party support looks to be weak at best. And a lot of people are raelly upset at Nintendo's pricing scheme (saying the console would sell for less than $250 and then pricing it as $249.99 is sleazy no matter how you look at it. Personally, I'd really be resentful paying $250 for what is essentially a Gamecube with a fancy controller.

If you are easily pleased by smooth graphics then you are a simpleton! I personally think the Xbox360's graphics looks so good they are rubbish! even the cars on Project Gotham look too shiney! just not realistic!. Xbox has never been that popular, and never will!

So I'm a simpleton for enjoying my 360? I vehemently disagree with your comments on PGR. There have already been a lot of deep, entertaining games released for the 360 with many more on the way. Criticizing games for having nice visuals sounds to me like a Nintendo fanboy trying to rationalize his favored console's inferior capabilities.

You obviously like Nintendo's approach to games and that's great, but taking potshots at other consoles and trying to make their strengths look like weaknesses only shows you to be the Nintendo fanboy that you obviously are.

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Um... the 360 has outsold the PS2 for the past number of months. And the games are selling incredibly well. And there have been millions of downloads on Xbox Live Marketplace. But... yeah... it is doing terribly. Riiiiiiggghhhhttt.

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So I say HA HA Namco! For making Soul Calibur III PS2 exclusive and now it's failing... I laugh in your faces! HA! ajb007/lol ajb007/lol

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Nightshooter wrote:

Um... the 360 has outsold the PS2 for the past number of months. And the games are selling incredibly well. And there have been millions of downloads on Xbox Live Marketplace. But... yeah... it is doing terribly. Riiiiiiggghhhhttt.

It costs money to download right....hmmm...look at that nice PS3...hmmmm

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It doesn't cost anything to download most things. Videos, movie trailers, stuff like that, all free. Game demos are free, too. Only Arcade games and SOME game add-ons cost money.

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0064 wrote:

It costs money to download right....hmmm...look at that nice PS3...hmmmm

As Night said, most downloads for the 360 are free or cost a nominal fee (the Oblivion downloads have all cost less than $2.00 each; most arcade games go for $5 or $10 each).

From what I've read, Nintendo will be charging $5, $10, and $15 respectively for their NES, SNES and N64 games being made available thru their virtual console.

As for the PS3, there's still no hard data but their forthcoming Gran Tourismo HD will include NO CARS and NO TRACKS with the game and will force gamers to buy them INDIVIDUALLY, ONE BY ONE. Good value? I think not.

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15 Doallars? for an N64 game? that's a good deal. i paid between 40-60 quid for mine on release dates, and there are some fantasic games to play around with ajb007/cheers

Well played Ninty~!

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Why buy a new N64 game for 15 when you can buy an old one for 5? Unless of course they upgrade these games graphicall or otherwise- then it would be very, very cool, and a great price as well. Please, Nintendo?

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Nightshooter wrote:

Why buy a new N64 game for 15 when you can buy an old one for 5? Unless of course they upgrade these games graphicall or otherwise- then it would be very, very cool, and a great price as well. Please, Nintendo?

Unfortunatly not everyone has the old consoles and are too lazy to go and buy one ajb007/cool. Plus you can never fully guarentee a copy of a certain game.

Paper Mario goes for loads on ebay 30-50 quid, so getting it for 7.50 is pretty good if you ask me ajb007/confused?:)?:):s:s:s

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Very true. Still, you can buy an N64 for $20, not $250.

Still, I love the virtual console idea.

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Nightshooter wrote:

Very true. Still, you can buy an N64 for $20, not $250.

Still, I love the virtual console idea.

You paying for the whole new console, new games, idea's, controllers, Wifi, the lot!

I can't wait for it personally, seen a few games that take my facy already! and James Bond games on this console will be unreal. I can imagine actually shoting people properly through aiming  ajb007/wink

Good luck Microsoft and Sony ajb007/takecover

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I'm not sure why you added your last comment. Nintendo THEMSELVES said that the Wii is NOT competing with the 360 and the PS3.

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Nightshooter wrote:

I'm not sure why you added your last comment. Nintendo THEMSELVES said that the Wii is NOT competing with the 360 and the PS3.

Whether they SAY anything it will have to do well amoungst Xbox and PS3, otherwise they will lose money.....

Fairly obvious I think ajb007/lolajb007/smile):)):)):)):#:#:'(

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No, not at all. Nintendo is placing itself so it can be the cheap(er) second consle that offers a different experience, making it necessary for true gamers and non gamers alike. Since the Wii is not comparable to the PS3 and 360, it is a whole other market.

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Nightshooter wrote:

No, not at all. Nintendo is placing itself so it can be the cheap(er) second consle that offers a different experience, making it necessary for true gamers and non gamers alike. Since the Wii is not comparable to the PS3 and 360, it is a whole other market.

Rubbish!

They are not aiming to be a second games console, thwy will want to sell as many as possible and keep it that way!

Why the hell would anyone aim to be second best ajb007/lol ajb007/crap ajb007/crap ajb007/crap

It's not a completly different market, they are all games consoles and all need decent sales at the end of the day. To say they are not competing is total BS!. If they don't compete and advertise their console as the best around then it's stupidity! and they won't sell any!

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Hmm, Nintendo did say that they would be charging less than $250. I was hoping for $200... ajb007/crap

But it's still not bad for that price. You get the cool new controller, backward compatibility with GameCube and the games are $50. You can even get old classics for $15. The console price may be a bit more expensive than expected, but it still seems like a fairly good deal. It may not have super-powerful-in-your-face graphics, but that's never bothered me before. Besides, from what I've seen, it actually looks quite nice.

Since both DVD playback and Region-Free games are apparently out the window, it has lost some of the things that made it more appealing (not to mention that no DVD playback is kind of cheap), but when you see Sony and Microsoft stuff on the shelf for more than twice the price...

Those game prices aren't bad either. Overall, looks like a pretty good deal (as long as I can find a way around the $70 cable issue ajb007/wink ). Not sure if I'll be getting one on release date, but I'll definitely be looking into it--maybe I'll buy it in a few months when it drops to the price I expected to pay from the beginning. ajb007/wink

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The price for the hardware is quite reasonable; and gamespot and other websites have backed off their assertions that the component cables would be so expensive (they'll be selling for the equivalent of $25 in Japan). The price is so low and the quantities should be so plentiful that I could see myself getting one as an impulse purchase at some point. And it's so small that I could fit it in my entertainment system without any problem.

My problem with the Wii is that I'm a graphics junkie and after seeing the visuals that my 360 can pump out, most of the Wii's titles look prehistoric by comparison. Also, none of the launch titles interest me. I was never a fan of Nintendo's first party IP's like Mario or Pokemon. Zelda looks like an interesting RPG adventure and I'm always up for a good FPS game so Metroid looks interesting from that standpoint. But everything else available at or near launch leaves me cold or can be had on other systems, where it will no doubt look much more compelling.

I'm still on the fence on this one.

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I've read that Wii kiosks have started popping up at electronics and video game outlets. They have Excite Truck playing on them and the initial word is that the visuals are quite disappointing, looking like little more than a souped up GameCube title. Nobody's commented on how it controls yet; hopefully they'll have a display set up in my next of the woods by the weekend.

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I got a chance to check out an actual Wii console today at EB Games; I was actually pretty impressed with what I saw. It was playing the Excite Truck demo and it actually looked pretty good. Only runs at 480p but it was in widescreen (albeit with a fisheye appearance) and the graphics looked nice and clean to me (don't know what other people were complaining about).

The Wii itself is quite small and could easily fit into most entertainment centers with no problem. The Wiimote controller itself if quite small (smaller than the 360's $30 media remote) but it seems to work quite well.

Overall I liked what I saw and I could see myself picking a Wii up if only for the 1st party games, which I expect will probably be the best software anyway. Definitely a better purchase than the PS3 at this time, IMHO.

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Here's an interesting article that explains how the Wii's sensor bar (which ostensibly controls the Wiimote) actually works.

I particularly love the discovery that two candles placed on either side of your TV can accomplish the same result as the sensor bar. All of a sudden, the tech inside the Wii doesn't seem quite as impressive.


http://wii.ign.com/articles/748/748011p1.html

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As I predicted to my Cartooning students months ago, the Wii just might rival the overly-priced PS3; I read an article yesterday to back up that claim...
If nothing more, then the Wii is cheaper escapism and they seem to be taking their gameline up a notch...

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Gamers say Wii has PS3 beaten By Mike Snider, USA TODAY
Tue Nov 28, 6:38 AM ET



Since their debuts more than a week ago, two new game systems earn good grades from consumers - but the underdog Nintendo Wii is the early favorite over the pricier, sexier Sony PlayStation3.



Both sold out on Day 1: Nov. 19 for the $500-$600 PS3 and Nov. 21 for the $250 Wii. But Nintendo seems to be reaping the benefits of a better supply.


Overall, Sony is estimated to have shipped between 125,000 and 175,000 PS3s to stores, says American Technology Research analyst P.J. McNealy; the target had been about 400,000. Nintendo shipped between 425,000 and 475,000, he says.




Nintendo's launch "has been probably a little better than expected and Sony's has been a little bit more disappointing," McNealy says. "If you have to rank on who won this holiday so far, Microsoft is first, Nintendo a close second and Sony a distant third, which is a rare statement."


Many gave up on getting a PS3 and opted for the Wii, according to New Media Strategies, a research firm that monitored Web activity related to the systems. And 38% who sought a PS3 and were subjected "to sleep deprivation, lost wages, missed classes, the elements and even muggings came away from the experience with a bitter taste in their mouths," the report says.


About 49% of online discussions were favorable to Wii, compared with 27% for PS3. Says the firm's Sam Huxley: "The hype machine went too far."


The Wii, says Bryan Clute, 26, of Silverdale, Wash., rates an A because the new remote-shaped wireless controller is "something I haven't been able to experience before. It really adds to gameplay" in the bowling game that is included with the system. Clute, who waited in line at a GameStop store to reserve a system, says, "It was well worth it."


David Nieves, 26, of Philadelphia gives the Wii an A-. "Nintendo has definitely gotten it right." He and friends spent most of the first day golfing, boxing, bowling and playing baseball. The games "were a blast."


Assessments were harsher for the PS3. Ray McLean, 34, of Brooklyn, N.Y., rates the PS3 an A but gives the games a B "because many of the launch titles were pushed back to later dates." He wanted to see aerial combat game Warhawk, for one, because it would take full advantage of the motion-sensitive controller. But connected to his 42-inch HDTV, "I'm surprised at how good (the games) look, given that they are first-generation games."


Brett Conlon, 26, of Fairfax, Va., gives the PS3 a B- because of the system updates needed before playing games, going online and playing multiplayer games. "I will say, however, that Resistance: Fall of Man shows a lot of potential. The Blu-ray player has amazing clarity (compared with) a regular DVD."


On its website, Entertainment Weekly gave the Wii a B+ and PS3 a B. "The Wii slightly edges out the PS3 in our head-to-head because it has a blockbuster Zelda game at launch and a very attractive price point," Geoff Keighley says. But in the long run, "the race will get even tighter."

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RogueAgent wrote:

As I predicted to my Cartooning students months ago, the Wii just might rival the overy-priced PS3; I read an article yesterday to back up that claim...

They're selling like the proverbial hotcakes, around 600,000 last time I checked. Technically, there isn't a lot there. But some of the games are still fun and the Wiimote is innovative. I'm still leaning towards buying one as a secondary system.

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Think i'll pick one up when they arrive in the UK. If I don't like it, I can always rely on the trusty bay to get rid of it.