Why no Bond action figures?

slingerslinger USAPosts: 79MI6 Agent
Why are there no current bond Action figures?

It seems there is stuff for every film or show out there. I just ran across these cool Dr. Who figures. http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/collectibles/d858/
It seems someone in the Bond word is dropping the merchandizing ball.
For our UK friends...who is more popular? Bond or the Doctor? If there is Doctor stuff, sholudn't there be Bond stuff?

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  • BLU8BLU8 Ontario, CanadaPosts: 418MI6 Agent
    Corgi had a line of figures planned a couple of years ago, but unfortunately they never made it onto shelves. Here are a few pictures of their prototypes & artwork: http://www.mi6.co.uk/sections/articles/collecting_corgi_2008_toyfair1.php3?t=&s=articles

    I definitely agree that 007 needs some representation in the action figure world! Something along the lines of Hasbro's wildly successful G.I. Joe or Star Wars toy lines would be amazing, with a multitude of different characters, Bond in different outfits, vehicles, playsets, role-play toys, etc.
  • Thunderbird 2Thunderbird 2 East of Cardiff, Wales.Posts: 2,780MI6 Agent
    edited May 2010
    Unfortunately, the production base of a franchise is based on the retail industry demand more than it is the end customer / collector.

    I have been following the Blog of Diamond Select Toys for the last couple of years who do all the Star Trek stuff (except the recent Abrams movie which is liscenced to Playmates Toys) as well as the Stargate and Battlestar Galactica franchises. More than once they have regretfully explained that due to retail buyer ambivalence, many lines have had to be cancelled, suspended until further notice, or not even gone beyond the initial research / prototype stage. - Often in protest from would be customers who heard about and want to get, those items.

    Bond is similar, but in a different way. Setting aside the recent general financial problems affecting every industry, the nature of the film series mean a dedicated figure range would be a serious financial and long term production investment for any toy / collectibles company. Besides each of the actors to play 007, and their characters various costumes, the scale of supporting characters is huge. - Many of the mainstream toy companies would not want to take that scale of product on, for fear of poor sales, against existing solid product lines they have now. - Ones that are easier to replace with something new too. Bond due to the violence and sex depicted in the films is not suitable for younger kids between 3 and 8. Star Wars and Dr Who tap directly into those markets to make the profits they do. Sadly collector investment from the likes of us is seen as peanuts by comparison to the bigger companies.

    - On the other side of the coin, the smaller companies that specialise in collectibles would not be able to afford to do it. They could go bust if the line tanked below the returns they would desperately need to meet the production overheads. To say nothing of the licensing costs!! DST have often said it kills them when they have to stop something, because they know customers are out there who want to buy it. Financially though, it is too risky if there is a possibility that it doesn't sell.

    The other thing to bear in mind is Star Wars and Star Trek have long established action figure consumer history. - Dr Who has proved FAR more successful than anyone could have hoped. (Inc the BBC!) The reinvestment into the toy merchandising reflects that. - The kids are a big part of it's popularity as a family series.
    Although Bond has had sporadic action figures in the past, the irony is his own popularity in the adult / commercial market, has made the toy collector market very low priority. - For example the 007 Action Man figs done over a decade ago were aimed straight at the collector market, not the kids. - Prob cause the Sales experts at Hasbro knew 1] Kids would prob not go for them in huge numbers, and 2] They had Star Wars making a mint, as it still does for them today!

    Don't get me wrong, if Corgi had got their finger out, I wold be after some of the Casino Royale ones myself. Only time will tell if it comes to pass.
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  • PPK 7.65mmPPK 7.65mm Saratoga Springs NY USAPosts: 1,234MI6 Agent
    Sideshow toys also stopped making action figures based on Bond, around 2006/07. It is pity since they were some of the best action figures a Bond collector could as for. They were making a figure for Casino Royale, however it was never released due to problems in molding the head. I visited the message boards at Sideshow recently and many people their would love to see more figures in the future. I guess is it really a matter of money.
  • slingerslinger USAPosts: 79MI6 Agent
    I was in Target today and saw "A Team" 12 inch and 3 inch figures. The big ones even talk. Theses figures are right next to Star Wars and Toy Story figures and toys. I understand that Bond would not be for young kids, but how are A Team figures out there and no Bond? I'm not even saying Bond should be in the kid's aisle next to Toy Story. I guess A Team got a deal that the Bond folks can't or don't want. I'm just whining and I want a talking Craig Bond figure.
  • EagleEagle UKPosts: 261MI6 Agent
    Maybe because the current Bond is rubbish? (CR almost the exception)... 8-)
  • PPK 7.65mmPPK 7.65mm Saratoga Springs NY USAPosts: 1,234MI6 Agent
    Part of the reason you don't see James Bond action figures in stores like ToysRUs or Target, is due the fact that the last time this was attempted it turned into a disaster. When Exclusive Premier did their Bond figures from 1997-1999, the figures warmed the pegs next other big sellers like GI Joe, Star Wars and The Transfomers. Also not much effort was put into planing the figures, as the clothing looked too big on some of them, and many figures lacked accessories .

    When the time is right, hopefully Bond will get new action figures.
  • LexiLexi LondonPosts: 3,000MI6 Agent
    slinger wrote:
    Why are there no current bond Action figures?

    It seems there is stuff for every film or show out there. I just ran across these cool Dr. Who figures. http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/collectibles/d858/
    It seems someone in the Bond word is dropping the merchandizing ball.
    For our UK friends...who is more popular? Bond or the Doctor? If there is Doctor stuff, sholudn't there be Bond stuff?

    Well, in my case, my 5 year old son is OBSESSED with Dr Who - partly because his Dad is, and also because it's on one of the main TV Channels, at 6.40 on a Sat night (usually a bad night for TV...) and so it's incredibly accessible - and has a lot of elements that little (and big ) boys like - Oliver desperately wants a sonic screwdriver - which I'm hoping to get him - I have to say, I'm much happier for him to have that than say a Walther PPK :))

    Bond, for him, is too grown up - and although he has seen bit's of CR - I think it's a bit 'old' for him - and well, a 'blow up Tardis' goes down a treat in the playground, where as a DB5 is okay, it doesn't have quite the same appeal.

    I suppose Bond is more accessible for older kids, plus the fact it's only in the cinema once every 2 or 3 years, compared to Dr Who, which is on every week (well, for the duration of the series...)- and it's the younger ones (say 4 - 10) that gets the toy makers excited.....
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  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 26,758Chief of Staff
    Eagle wrote:
    Maybe because the current Bond is rubbish? (CR almost the exception)... 8-)

    Well...both of DC's Bond films have made LOTS of money...so perhaps not as 'rubbish' as you think...unless you think box office taking of over $1 billion is rubbish ? ;)

    I'd lik esome new figures too...but with some thought and care going into them...more like the Sideshow Premium Format 1/4 scale figures....
    YNWA 97
  • Kai RoweKai Rowe Posts: 37MI6 Agent
    I think Hot Toys will get around to them at some point.They re the greatest action figure company in the World.
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