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My impressions more or less echoed those of Napoleon Plural's.

SPOILER -

Was anyone else completely baffled by the (first) villain's plot when it was finally revealed? They spent millions of pounds and involved a network of operatives to replicate an experimental Serbian warhead that projected hypervelocity shrapnel... to kill a harmless drug researcher at the university he worked at, which would create a death toll of around 90 persons (by the villain's own estimates). They went to all this trouble to apparently deflect the blame onto the Serbians, for no good reason other than the mask the true killer. That's more convoluted than Octopussy!

What's worse is that their initial plan involved killing OTHER people in a more direct fashion, in order to achieve the goal of killing their main target in this oddball, convoluted way... whatever happened, to, oh, making the professor's death look like an auto accident or a drug overdose (you know, the classics!) ajb007/smile

I just found it to be a very convoluted plot that really only existed to justify the existence of the story itself, as if the villains made their choices because they were purposefully trying to fill the pages of a thriller, not because it was the expedient action. ajb007/smile

This could have been fixed if the villain's goal had been to undertake a false flag operation (say, take out a military facility and blame it on the Serbs, etc). For the simple murder of a drug researcher, it was ridiculously complex.

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I picked up the book at Costco with no hopes but being a fan I had to grab it.   Definitely not the best novel but It was pleasant to be swept off into "Bond Land" and see similarities to Ian Flemming.  I love it when bond falls for the wrong women!  ajb007/smile

Oh at the new bond cocktail........It's fantastic!

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I actually enjoyed Carte Blanche quite a bit.  I got one of the UK editions as well as the US edition and had them signed when Mr. Deaver visited Houston.  He talk was quite interesting as well.  I have since read one of his other books and think he has a interesting style.

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I agree, Samurai-5, the Carte Blanche cocktail is quite good.  I ask Mr. Deaver how he came up with it.  He smiled and said lots of research.  ajb007/martini

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SpectreBlofeld wrote:

My impressions more or less echoed those of Napoleon Plural's.

SPOILER -

Was anyone else completely baffled by the (first) villain's plot when it was finally revealed? .


Your quote baffled me, nothing wrong with it but a sign how much the plot passed me by. I got it, but it's smoke and mirrors. Good for an occasional Bond thriller, but not the real deal. I did feel a sense of urgency at the danger Bond was in to be fair, but yeah, the plot was wheels within wheels.

Bond: Mr. Mathis, there's something that's been worrying me...
Mathis: Yes?
Bond: Well, you're a French police inspector, yet you speak with an Italian accent.
Mathis: Mamma mia, it worries me, too.

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Much as I enjoyed Carte Blanche, I thought He was being a litle too clever with all the twists.It did become slightly predictable.  I do hope he gets another shot as I think it has more Good points than Bad.

1, OHMSS.  2,CR.   3, LTK.  4, Goldfinger.  5, Skyfall.

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Top 10 spy thrillers in the i newspaper today, Carte Blanche and From Russia with Love get a mention, plus 39 Steps, Riddle of Sands, Epitagh for a Spy, Spy who Came in from the Cold, Bourne Ulitmatum, Secret Agent.

Bond: Mr. Mathis, there's something that's been worrying me...
Mathis: Yes?
Bond: Well, you're a French police inspector, yet you speak with an Italian accent.
Mathis: Mamma mia, it worries me, too.

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Thunderpussy wrote:

Much as I enjoyed Carte Blanche, I thought He was being a litle too clever with all the twists.It did become slightly predictable.  I do hope he gets another shot as I think it has more Good points than Bad.

Agree. Certainly enough good about it to justify a second shot at it, particularly if it stops Faulkes from doing another one.

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I think Deaver will get a second Novel. DMC was IMHO ok, just not great and the last part of the Book set in russia I thought was to fill out the last few pages of the novel, Fleming used to finish the story pretty quickly after the big climax of the story. Once described as a three act novel.

1, OHMSS.  2,CR.   3, LTK.  4, Goldfinger.  5, Skyfall.

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Wow, having just finished Carte Blanche, I'm shocked by the overall positive consensus here.

I had avoided all reviews saving the book for my holiday and after just reading all the reviews, I wonder if I read the same book.   With the exception of M, I hated everything about it. 

It is not a James Bond novel, he could have been any secret agent.  We learn nothing of the man, other than he likes low end mass volume slop (Crown Royal and Jim Bean...........Bond, Really???).  A made up drink, no smoking, and very little of anything that makes the man unique and James Bond. 
Deaver is pathetic, naming every local music artist per setting (of course Bond loves them all),  the meals are nothing special, we hear nothing of the man's style (oh yeah, he wears a Lacoste shirt)!

Thankfully, I was able to read Casino Royale right after I finished Carte Blanche.  If anyone thinks Ian Fleming would have enjoyed this pulp of garbage they should go back and read the great man's James Bond.................this Deaver book is not a James Bond novel.

My apologies if I offend anyone here who liked it, I was beyond dissappointed and actually a little angry at the liberties taken by Deaver in recreating his Bond.

This is where we leave you Mr. Bond. (Pilot, Apollo Airlines)

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Napoleon Plural wrote:

I've heard there's not much sex in it either, which fits as I don't think it's Deaver's forte (on the page I mean.) This is a perennial Bond continuation problem, certainly with Gardner. Woods was v good at it, Amis not bad though you only had one sex scene there.

I just got done reading Bensons " High time to Kill "and he has Jimbo getting busy with Dr Hope Kendall at 8000 ft in a beauvac sack, wearing Q designed hair masks , in a little tent near the top of the third tallest mountain on earth, during a blizzard no less, with 6 dead bodies scattered  around em in the other tents on the mountain.  Whatever Bensons faults are as a writer, he's got my vote for at least letting commander Bond " Keep the British end up " so to speak  ajb007/lol   ajb007/lol   ajb007/lol     Looking forward to checking out Deaver's take when I am done with Benson's union trilogy. I have found as long as I don't read any of Flemings work before or after reading a non fleming book I enjoy them quite well.

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Thunderpussy wrote:

I think Deaver will get a second Novel. DMC was IMHO ok, just not great and the last part of the Book set in russia I thought was to fill out the last few pages of the novel, Fleming used to finish the story pretty quickly after the big climax of the story. Once described as a three act novel.

TP, when I attended the book signing in Houston, he mentioned he is contractually obligated to write a book per year by his publisher and that he had to get an exemption in order to write Carte Blanche.  He was not opposed to writing another book, but stated his availability for the project would be an issue.  This is not to say he would not do another Bond novel, but that it doesn't appear he will be doing them very often.

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Thanks for the Info, pyrat. I'd like to see him given another chance, for all its faults I did enjoy Carte Blanche. Perhaps even now another Writer is being lined up to do a follow on.  ajb007/lol

1, OHMSS.  2,CR.   3, LTK.  4, Goldfinger.  5, Skyfall.

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Finally got around to finishing Carte Blanche and I have to say I really enjoyed it.  I don't know if it is the best Bond continuation novel I've read but it is definitely one of the top three.  I hope he will write another.

"A blunt instrument wielded by a Government department.  Hard, ruthless, sardonic, fatalistic.  He likes gambling, golf, fast motor cars.  All his movements are relaxed and economical". Ian Fleming

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I have to agree with Polar Bear. This is the worst James Bond novel I have ever read. I am in the middle and I will finish it because I am compulsive. Oy vey is it bad.

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It didn't like it to start with but got into it eventually and so did enjoy it overall. You can read my full review below:

http://www.tjbd.co.uk/james-bond-books/ … viewed.htm

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battistini wrote:

I have to agree with Polar Bear. This is the worst James Bond novel I have ever read.

Have you read all the continuation Bond novels ? This isn't the worst....

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Try some of R Benson's Novels.  ajb007/crap some are really terrible.

1, OHMSS.  2,CR.   3, LTK.  4, Goldfinger.  5, Skyfall.

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One thing the book does miss out on badly is Fleming's depressive, bleak angle. That doesn't sound too enticing, but then his rejection of Philly out of gallantry isn't too unBondlike; you may as well argue that Bond being rejected by Gala Brand at the end of MR couldn't happen. But it has to have a bleakness, a fatalsim about it. And this Bond lacks all that, he seems like a boy scout grown up. Fleming's Bond does have a conscientous air, but also that Richard Burtonesque fatalism and depressive air.

Bond: Mr. Mathis, there's something that's been worrying me...
Mathis: Yes?
Bond: Well, you're a French police inspector, yet you speak with an Italian accent.
Mathis: Mamma mia, it worries me, too.

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Sir Miles and Thunderpussy you are right and I should have said, I have not read them all. But James Bond The Authorized Biography and Colonel Sun struck me as the best, and I LOVED the former.

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battistini wrote:

Sir Miles and Thunderpussy you are right and I should have said, I have not read them all. But James Bond The Authorized Biography and Colonel Sun struck me as the best, and I LOVED the former.

Colonel Sun is my favourite continuation novel....try a few of the latter Gardner books or Never Dream Of Dying from Benson - my personal nadir of the series...

Aevo rarissima nostro simplicitas
The higher the monkey climbs the more you can see its arse

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I'm pissed. Are you saying Gardner's later ones are good or the nadir.

Christopher Wood's book of the films TSWLM and MR are very enjoyable. Flavour of Fleming.

Bond: Mr. Mathis, there's something that's been worrying me...
Mathis: Yes?
Bond: Well, you're a French police inspector, yet you speak with an Italian accent.
Mathis: Mamma mia, it worries me, too.

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Napoleon Plural wrote:

I'm pissed. Are you saying Gardner's later ones are good or the nadir

Even when pissed..they are still crap ! ajb007/crap

And it's NDOD that's my personal nadir...

Aevo rarissima nostro simplicitas
The higher the monkey climbs the more you can see its arse

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Sir Miles is definitely right, the last 3 Benson's are beyond bad.

Like battistini, my primary problem with Deaver is that C.B. is not a Bond novel.  You can also sense Deaver is a politically correct left wing nut, I'm sure Fleming wouldn't approve of what Deaver turns Bond into.

I really hope Deaver doesn't go anywhere near Bond again.  I also hope the new books return
to Bonds era and the Bond of Ian Fleming.

This is where we leave you Mr. Bond. (Pilot, Apollo Airlines)

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Polar Bear 0007 wrote:

Sir Miles is definitely right, the last 3 Benson's are beyond bad.

Like battistini, my primary problem with Deaver is that C.B. is not a Bond novel.  You can also sense Deaver is a politically correct left wing nut, I'm sure Fleming wouldn't approve of what Deaver turns Bond into.

I really hope Deaver doesn't go anywhere near Bond again.  I also hope the new books return
to Bonds era and the Bond of Ian Fleming.

I'm not sure what you mean by "politically correct left wing nut" and how it shows up in CB. Bond seems to disapprove of apartheid and the use of the term "colored," but that doesn't strike me as PC as much as it strikes me as sensible. I'm a huge fan of Fleming's novels, but I'm glad to see that racism and homophobia are no longer part of Bond's personality.

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That's the point I'm making- Deaver takes liberties on Bond's "political outlook". 

I am not trying to cause pointless trouble, but I always laugh when I read how happy and glad people are that Bond is not the person Fleming invented him to be!  Proves the point I am making (rightly or wrongly) that this is not Bond!  Probably also explains why they are so afraid to let someone freely write a new novel in the Fleming era and give a writer the freedom to write unabashed like Fleming!  Don't dare offend anyone, the politically correct Gestapo will hunt you down.  No, instead we get this bland drivel as Bond.

This is where we leave you Mr. Bond. (Pilot, Apollo Airlines)