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Sadly I missed seeing the new episode of Sherlock but this article on the new episode might be of interest to readers of this thread:

http://www.bustle.com/articles/132775-i … y-have-its

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Have just watched it- twice!   ajb007/lol

Wonderful, great entertainment, and very clever. The first half was better than the second, if I have to make a criticism. The jokes were excellent, and the cast all looked as if they were having a thoroughly good time. Now the long wait begins until the next one...

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It was a bag of an unspecified by-product of the alimentary system.  Switched off last night as it was so bad, then decided to pick it up again and try anew.  Utter an unspecified by-product of the alimentary system!!   It's gone so far from the brilliant series it started as and now has become a pastiche of crap that blows smoke up it's own bottom.  Now I loved Sherlock and own many major props and costumes including two of his iconic coats (which fit me perfectly) and other items which puts my Bond collection to shame.  But what it seems the scriptwriters are more interested in showing is how clever they were rather than how clever they can be in rewriting Sherlock for the 21st century, which is why it was originally so well received.  Give me more Sherlock solving real crimes, not dream games and wedding speeches.  The series is dead in the water unless we get a series where he actually solves some blindingly devious crimes instead of revelling in what a bizaare character he is and scriptwriters trying to show us what a splendid character they created back then.

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Totally disagree with what you say, Asp9mm, it was really good. Gatiss & Moffat are spinning things out, true, but there was a crime to solve and it was done well.

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What crime?  Seriously.  He was high on drugs dreaming how to work out how someone who he saw die, didn't.  Which he eventually decided, actually did.

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The murder of Sir Eustace was the crime.

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I think for what it's worth, the series is as much a study on the characters, and
their relationships, as about solving crimes. I'm just as entertained by Holmes and
Watson's interaction  as anything.

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No, you missed the point.  It wasn't.  it was a self delusional episode brought on inside his mind to work out a problem.  The historical aspect was not real.  If it was I could have worked with that.  But it was never meant to be.  It was a contrived 'solving of a problem' inside his head.  His 'mind palace'.

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Thunderpussy wrote:

I think for what it's worth, the series is as much a study on the characters, and
their relationships, as about solving crimes. I'm just as entertained by Holmes and
Watson's interaction  as anything.

Stephen Moffat has said that originally the focus was to be on the setting (how H&W would react in 2010 London) but when they realised how well the two leads worked together they switched the emphasis onto their interaction.

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Asp9mm wrote:

No, you missed the point.  It wasn't.  it was a self delusional episode brought on inside his mind to work out a problem.  The historical aspect was not real.  If it was I could have worked with that.  But it was never meant to be.  It was a contrived 'solving of a problem' inside his head.  His 'mind palace'.

Of course I didn't miss that. There were references to the Ricoletti murder(s) as being historical outside the delusion.

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Barbel wrote:
Thunderpussy wrote:

I think for what it's worth, the series is as much a study on the characters, and
their relationships, as about solving crimes. I'm just as entertained by Holmes and
Watson's interaction  as anything.

Stephen Moffat has said that originally the focus was to be on the setting (how H&W would react in 2010 London) but when they realised how well the two leads worked together they switched the emphasis onto their interaction.

The problem is that Gatiss and Mofatt have very different views on how the series should progress.  Gatiss was more in control in series 1 and 2, and you can see the difference when Mofatt decided to devote more of his time and effort into series 3.  This latest episode had Mofatt in control and he is pushing to be the showrunner while putting Doctor Who on the back burner next year.  Cumberbatch has already expressed concerns, which is why there has been little amount of Sherlock filmed.  He wants out.  With Doctor Strange being filmed now, and him committing to two further Sherlock episodes with the current production, we will see him again, but in a reduced role.  If Gatiss had been in control, Cumberbatch would have committed to two full seasons.

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Asp9mm wrote:

The problem is that Gatiss and Mofatt have very different views on how the series should progress.  Gatiss was more in control in series 1 and 2, and you can see the difference when Mofatt decided to devote more of his time and effort into series 3.  This latest episode had Mofatt in control and he is pushing to be the showrunner while putting Doctor Who on the back burner next year.  Cumberbatch has already expressed concerns, which is why there has been little amount of Sherlock filmed.  He wants out.  With Doctor Strange being filmed now, and him committing to two further Sherlock episodes with the current production, we will see him again, but in a reduced role.  If Gatiss had been in control, Cumberbatch would have committed to two full seasons.

Now there I agree with you- although I feel Cumberbatch will come back to the role over the years as his schedule permits.

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Barbel wrote:
Asp9mm wrote:

No, you missed the point.  It wasn't.  it was a self delusional episode brought on inside his mind to work out a problem.  The historical aspect was not real.  If it was I could have worked with that.  But it was never meant to be.  It was a contrived 'solving of a problem' inside his head.  His 'mind palace'.

Of course I didn't miss that. There were references to the Ricoletti murder(s) as being historical outside the delusion.

Indeed, but for an intelligent series that it started off as, it was exceptionally lazy writing that shoe horned it in with no real explanation of the facts and how they were solved.  For example - If he was not there in the first place, how would he have heard a window smash or know the facts if he wasn't making it up from his own POV, which is shown.  It was just a cheap trick to lull the audience into the story.  And based upon reactions.  No one is really buying it, as it was a non-story.

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Barbel wrote:
Asp9mm wrote:

The problem is that Gatiss and Mofatt have very different views on how the series should progress.  Gatiss was more in control in series 1 and 2, and you can see the difference when Mofatt decided to devote more of his time and effort into series 3.  This latest episode had Mofatt in control and he is pushing to be the showrunner while putting Doctor Who on the back burner next year.  Cumberbatch has already expressed concerns, which is why there has been little amount of Sherlock filmed.  He wants out.  With Doctor Strange being filmed now, and him committing to two further Sherlock episodes with the current production, we will see him again, but in a reduced role.  If Gatiss had been in control, Cumberbatch would have committed to two full seasons.

Now there I agree with you- although I feel Cumberbatch will come back to the role over the years as his schedule permits.

He won't.  Trust me, he hates the way the series is heading.  It's a miracle he signed up for the two one off specials.  There's some controversy over what was shot, and what was shown already on this last special.  I wouldn't be surprised if he walked away completely.  Daniel Craig's comments on shooting another Bond are nothing compared to BC's feelings on shooting Sherlock.    It's  a damned shame and I'm pee'd off it's going down like it is.  I loved this series.

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He won't.  Trust me, he hates the way the series is heading.  It's a miracle he signed up for the two one off specials.

http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-rad … in-Freeman  "We'll see how the next series goes", he's quoted as saying.
Seriously, the role is a safety net for him (and of course Watson for Freeman)- while they're getting big film offers, they can do an occasional Sherlock as their schedule allows. If their film offers cool off, it's always there- and when they're old, they can  still return to the parts (the characters are fairly age-proof: Peter Cushing for example played Holmes in his 40s, 50s, and 70s). I would be very surprised if Cumberbatch walked away completely: he'll stall the producers, sure, but not break away completely and, er, never say never again.

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So many funny lines and bits of business in the Sherlock special. I enjoyed
Mrs Watson saying as the boys went off on an adventure ...
" Am I supposed to sit here all night doing nothing ?"
Only to get the reply from Watson ......
" Certainly not my Dear, when we get back, I'm sure we'll be hungry ".  ajb007/lol
In other words, woman get in the kitchen.  ajb007/wink

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https://youtu.be/UKNyaFJGwU0
New Trailer for Sherlock series 4.

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https://youtu.be/vNb8JAqwTtQ
New trailer and an announcement of a birth ..
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-12- … nouncement

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And the last series of Elementary starts on Sky Living tomorrow  ajb007/martini

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ajb007/crap   I've enjoyed that show, though not as much as Sherlock.

(Would it have been too cheesy, at the time when US Holmes & Watson were in London, for them to have spotted Cumberbatch & Freeman across the street, exchange a glance, then walk on...?)

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Possibly, but a nice 'nod' all the same...I enjoy Lee-Miller's take on Holmes, quite different from the usual but oddly reminiscent  ajb007/insane

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Agreed, Lee-Miller is excellent.

Sidenote: many of the actors involved in the Sherlock Holmes films/TV series have also been involved in the films of the Frankenstein story. Can this be a coincidence?

Basil Rathbone (Holmes/Frankenstein), Peter Cushing (Holmes/Frankenstein), Christopher Lee (Sherlock Holmes/Mycroft Holmes/The Creature/Sir Henry Baskerville), Benedict Cumberbatch (Holmes/Frankenstein/The Monster), Jonny Lee-Miller* (Holmes/Frankenstein/The Monster), Thorley Walters (Watson/Frankenstein's assistant) etc etc

Plus of course the currently ongoing Penny Dreadful series which could go anywhere?

* and his grandfather Bernard Lee (M, of course) was in Frankenstein And The Monster From Hell.

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Barbel wrote:

Plus of course the currently ongoing Penny Dreadful series which could go anywhere?

Alas not, as that series has now ended completely  ajb007/crap

As for the Holmes/Frankenstein link - that is quite bizarre  ajb007/amazed

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Sherlock  back on bbc1 tonight at  20:30  ajb007/smile

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I will have to wait until it appears on the BBC catch-up app  ajb007/smile

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.