best and worst outfit of each (Bond-)actor

HatThrowingHenchmanHatThrowingHenchman Russia With LovePosts: 1,834MI6 Agent
the title basically says it all so here I start...

SEAN CONNERY
best: three-piece suit in GF
worst: the.pink.tie. in DAF

GEORGE LAZENBY
best: deep blue ski suit from the attack on piz gloria
worst: horseback riding outfit

ROGER MOORE
best: white bogner ski outfit from AVTAK/suit and overcoat from LALD
worst: clown costume from OP

TIMOTHY DALTON
best: tangier suit TLD
worst: mujahedeen(?) combat outfit (eventhough it fitted his cover)

PIERCE BROSNAN
best: iceland arrival outfit DAD/TND pre-title outfit
worst: havanna shirt

DANIEL CRAIG
best: QoS haiti dress/sölden action outfit SP
worst: suits in SF

let the discussion begin... :))
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  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    Sean Connery

    Best - sea island cotton shirt
    worst - iIhave to say Japanese kimono

    George Lazenby

    Best - ski outfit
    worst - Sir Hilary Bray, although apart from Connery he looks his best in a kilt

    Roger Moore

    Best - wearing that suit and tie TSWLM
    worse - the safari suit, sorry but to wear it in MR but to bring it back in OP. Do love it though..

    Timothy Dalton

    Best - the dinner jacket, TLD. just wow.
    worse - wetsuit

    Pierce Brosnan

    Best - don't really pay attention to what he is wearing
    worst - don't really pay attention to what he is wearing

    Daniel Craig

    Best - solden action outfit
    worse - it pains me to say it but those tiny trunks. He fills them nicely
    1. For Your Eyes Only 2. The Living Daylights 3 From Russia with Love 4. Casino Royale 5. OHMSS 6. Skyfall
  • MilleniumForceMilleniumForce LondonPosts: 1,214MI6 Agent
    Connery:

    BEST - Suit in his introduction (DN)
    WORST - His Japanease clothing (YOLT)


    Moore:

    BEST - Turtle neck (LALD)
    WORST - Ski outfit (TSWLM)


    Dalton:

    BEST - Suit he wore in the casino (LTK)
    WORST - Wetsuit (LTK)


    Brosnan:

    BEST - Pre Title sequence outfit (TLD)
    WORST - Army outfit (DAD)


    I don't really pay attention to Craig, so I can't really judge. With the exception of Dalton, I much prefer casual dressed Bond. I only prefer Dalton in a suit because........I'm not sure actually.
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    Sean Connery -

    Best - The GF PTS White and Black Suit
    Worst - The DAF Pink Tie Suit

    George Lazenby -

    Best - His PTS Suit
    Worst - The Kilt

    Roger Moore -

    Best - The Grey Suit Bond Wears on Scaramanga's Island
    Worst - The Track Suit from AVTAK

    Timothy Dalton -

    Best - The Tuxedo's from both TLD and LTK
    Worst - The Tangier's Suit

    Pierce Brosnan -

    Best - The Jungle Outfit during the infiltration of the Dam in GE
    Worst - The Blue and Cream Suit during the Tower and Submarine Scenes in TWINE

    Daniel Craig -

    Best - The Tuxedo during the Poker Game with Le Chiffre in CR (06)
    Worst- I would also agree with the SF Suits
    1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    I don't think it's fair to count disguises, like the Japanese clothes in YOLT, the highland dress in OHMSS, the clown suit in OP and the Mujahideen outfit in TLD, because Bond isn't choosing to wear these clothes for himself.

    SEAN CONNERY
    best: Three-piece glen check suit by Anthony Sinclair in GF
    worst: Terrycloth playsuit in GF

    GEORGE LAZENBY
    best: Glen check suit by Dimi Major in Switzerland
    worst: Brown golfing outfit

    ROGER MOORE
    best: Blue suit by Cyril Castle in Beirut in TMWTGG
    worst: Light blue leisure suit with the white vest underneath in LALD

    TIMOTHY DALTON
    best: Tan suit by Benjamin Simon in Tangier in TLD
    worst: Dinner suit at the casino in LTK (the only time Bond messed up black tie, and along with the other two suits in the film has a hideous cut)

    PIERCE BROSNAN
    best: Charcoal suit by Brioni in Bilbao in TWINE
    worst: Blue shirt in Havana in DAD

    DANIEL CRAIG
    best: Dinner suit by Tom Ford in QoS
    worst: Though I'm very much bothered by the poor fit of suits in SF, the worst has to go to the Madagascar shirt in CR. It makes Brosnan's blue shirt in Havana look tasteful.
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  • Agent LeeAgent Lee Posts: 254MI6 Agent
    This is a great idea for a topic!

    SEAN CONNERY
    Best: Suits in FRWL
    Worst: Terry cloth in GF

    GEORGE LAZENBY
    Best: Tux with ruffled shirt in Casino
    Worst: The kilt

    ROGER MOORE
    Best: Brown pants, brown tie, tan sport jacket in LALD
    Worst: Clown disguise in OP :s

    TIMOTHY DALTON
    Best: Tan suit in TLD
    Worst: Casual wear in LTK

    PIERCE BROSNAN
    Best: PTS suit in TWINE
    Worst: havanna shirt

    DANIEL CRAIG
    Best: PTS suit in SF (don't know what all of you are talking about, all the suits in SF are fantastic!)
    Worst: White short-sleeved shirt in Bahamas in CR
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Agent Lee wrote:
    Best: PTS suit in SF (don't know what all of you are talking about, all the suits in SF are fantastic!)

    They fit poorly. It doesn't matter how well-made the suits are, how nice the suitings are or how well-cut the suit is if it doesn't fit. They would be very nice suits on a teenage Daniel Craig. The suit jackets are the right length for someone about 5'6"-5'8" tall, not 5'10". The same goes for the short rise of the trousers. The jackets can't fit across his chest, the shoulders are too narrow, and the sleeves are so narrow they can't hang neatly. The trousers are also so narrow that they cling to his legs. The cloths are very, very nice, but the cloths are wool, not spandex.
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  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Agent Lee wrote:
    Best: PTS suit in SF (don't know what all of you are talking about, all the suits in SF are fantastic!)

    They fit poorly. It doesn't matter how well-made the suits are, how nice the suitings are or how well-cut the suit is if it doesn't fit. They would be very nice suits on a teenage Daniel Craig. The suit jackets are the right length for someone about 5'6"-5'8" tall, not 5'10". The same goes for the short rise of the trousers. The jackets can't fit across his chest, the shoulders are too narrow, and the sleeves are so narrow they can't hang neatly. The trousers are also so narrow that they cling to his legs. The cloths are very, very nice, but the cloths are wool, not spandex.

    Are you connected with the rag trade Mr S?
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Agent Lee wrote:
    Best: PTS suit in SF (don't know what all of you are talking about, all the suits in SF are fantastic!)

    They fit poorly. It doesn't matter how well-made the suits are, how nice the suitings are or how well-cut the suit is if it doesn't fit. They would be very nice suits on a teenage Daniel Craig. The suit jackets are the right length for someone about 5'6"-5'8" tall, not 5'10". The same goes for the short rise of the trousers. The jackets can't fit across his chest, the shoulders are too narrow, and the sleeves are so narrow they can't hang neatly. The trousers are also so narrow that they cling to his legs. The cloths are very, very nice, but the cloths are wool, not spandex.

    Are you connected with the rag trade Mr S?

    Not as my main profession.
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,060Chief of Staff
    Agent Lee wrote:

    SEAN CONNERY
    Worst: Terry cloth in GF

    Hands down! Unlike Matt S, who clearly knows his stuff, I rarely notice clothes (as my friends will happily tell you) but even I hate this one.
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    Agent Lee wrote:

    SEAN CONNERY
    Worst: Terry cloth in GF

    Hands down! Unlike Matt S, who clearly knows his stuff, I rarely notice clothes (as my friends will happily tell you) but even I hate this one.

    Since most of Connery's clothes were great (the pink tie wouldn't have been so bad if it was tied it wasn't tied in a windsor knot), this gets placed at the bottom. My main problem with it is that it looks more like a women's garment. But you have to admit it's practical. Rather than drying off after a swim before putting your clothes on, why not do it all at once? I'd sooner wear it than I would wear Daniel Craig's ball-busting trousers.
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  • DutchJamesBondFanDutchJamesBondFan the NetherlandsPosts: 414MI6 Agent
    SEAN CONNERY
    Best: The suit in his introduction.
    Worst: The pink tie suit.

    GEORGE LAZENBY
    Best: The wedding suit
    Worst: The Hillary Bray clothes at Piz Gloria.

    ROGER MOORE
    Best: The LALD KissKiss club suit, when he meets Mr. Big.
    Worst: The suit he wears when he's at Scaramanga's Island.

    TIMOTHY DALTON
    Best: His regular evening suit in TLD
    Worst: The clothes he wears when he meets with M in LTK.

    PIERCE BROSNAN
    Best: The evening suit in the ice palace.
    Worst: The Havana clothes.

    DANIEL CRAIG
    Best: The clothes he wears when he meets M in the Bahamas.
    Worst: The clothes he wears at Skyfall.
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  • Agent LeeAgent Lee Posts: 254MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Agent Lee wrote:
    Best: PTS suit in SF (don't know what all of you are talking about, all the suits in SF are fantastic!)

    They fit poorly. It doesn't matter how well-made the suits are, how nice the suitings are or how well-cut the suit is if it doesn't fit. They would be very nice suits on a teenage Daniel Craig. The suit jackets are the right length for someone about 5'6"-5'8" tall, not 5'10". The same goes for the short rise of the trousers. The jackets can't fit across his chest, the shoulders are too narrow, and the sleeves are so narrow they can't hang neatly. The trousers are also so narrow that they cling to his legs. The cloths are very, very nice, but the cloths are wool, not spandex.

    Clearly you're someone who has some professional expertise about this, so I don't have much of an argument about whether or not they fit right. What I will say is, in a heightened reality (and Bond is always a heightened reality), I don't think it matters too much about whether or not they would fit in the traditional sense. What matters is the aesthetic, and it seems clear to me that the suits were designed to be very tight purely for the aesthetic. Whether or not it's an aesthetic that appeals to you is another matter, but I don't think it's really fair to judge the success of the look by the rules of how well a wool suit fits in the real world.
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Agent Lee wrote:
    Matt S wrote:
    Agent Lee wrote:
    Best: PTS suit in SF (don't know what all of you are talking about, all the suits in SF are fantastic!)

    They fit poorly. It doesn't matter how well-made the suits are, how nice the suitings are or how well-cut the suit is if it doesn't fit. They would be very nice suits on a teenage Daniel Craig. The suit jackets are the right length for someone about 5'6"-5'8" tall, not 5'10". The same goes for the short rise of the trousers. The jackets can't fit across his chest, the shoulders are too narrow, and the sleeves are so narrow they can't hang neatly. The trousers are also so narrow that they cling to his legs. The cloths are very, very nice, but the cloths are wool, not spandex.

    Clearly you're someone who has some professional expertise about this, so I don't have much of an argument about whether or not they fit right. What I will say is, in a heightened reality (and Bond is always a heightened reality), I don't think it matters too much about whether or not they would fit in the traditional sense. What matters is the aesthetic, and it seems clear to me that the suits were designed to be very tight purely for the aesthetic. Whether or not it's an aesthetic that appeals to you is another matter, but I don't think it's really fair to judge the success of the look by the rules of how well a wool suit fits in the real world.

    How does this aesthetic work for the film and the character? Suits can fit very closely without fitting so poorly. Why is Bond wearing suits that are too small on him now since this has never come up before? Based on the story, Bond is not in great shape, so his suits can't be too small because he got extra buff. Is it because Bond got fat that his suit can barely close? The poor fit is exaggerated in the heightened reality of film, which makes me think it's even more important that a suit fits well on screen.
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  • Penfold HeartPenfold Heart Posts: 159MI6 Agent
    edited June 2015
    Sean Connery -
    Best - GF Grey glen check 3 piece suit (this is the best piece ever worn by a Bond)
    Worst - GF blue terrycloth onesie

    George Lazenby -
    Best - His PTS Suit
    Worst - The Kilt

    Roger Moore -
    Best - AFTAK tuxedo at Zorin's chatueau
    Worst - Safari suit

    Timothy Dalton -
    Best - Assault gear from TLD PTS
    Worst - Afghan gear

    Pierce Brosnan -
    Best - Any tux from any film (he wears them very well)
    Worst - horrible jacket from TND PTS

    Daniel Craig -
    Best - Navy pinstripe suit from closing scene of CR
    Worst- Skyfall suits
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    The 1960s Bonds all had impeccable costuming -- fit, style, fabric, tailoring, colouring. Everything worked, even with outlandishly fashionable, as was the case with many casual and even dressier outfits in On Her Majesty's Secret Service. On top of that, both Connery and Lazenby had outstanding builds for suits. Lean but muscular, without the bulkiness of many more contemporary actors.

    As Felix says in Thunderball, Connery could wear anything and make it look good. And this was certainly true in the 1960s.

    Connery:

    Best: (Tie)Dr. No tux; From Russia with Love two-piece gray suit resembling Cary Grant's in North by Northwest.
    Worst: Beige, wide-collared shirt from PTS of Diamonds are Forever.

    Lazenby:

    Best: Black pinstripe three-piece in M's office.
    Worst: Hotel bathrobe.

    Moore:

    Best: Black turtleneck and slacks with leather shoulder holster in Live and Let Die that Craig imitates in Spectre posters.
    Worst: Blue jean and white tank-top in Live and Let Die.

    Dalton:

    Best: (Tie) Tuxedo/assassin jacket; Suit and topcoat in Prague, both from The Living Daylights.
    Worst: Boat pilot outfit from Licence to Kill.

    Note: It's interesting that Dalton and Brosnan are similar body types -- and Brosnan modeled -- but Dalton's clothes look better on him.

    Brosnan:

    Best: PTS leather coat outfit from Tomorrow Never Dies.
    Worst: Double-breasted sportcost in Goldeneye -- looked bought off the rack from Sears and made him seem scrawny.

    Craig:

    Best: (Tie) Tropical suit when arriving in Bahamas; casual outfit worn when winning the DB5, both in Casino Royale.
    Worst: Skyfall tuxedo.

    A word about the Skyfall suits. That are cut to contemporary fashion, including the shorter jacket and tighter fit. That said, not every style is for every person. In Craig's case, it's not so much that he is not as tall as previous Bond actors but more because he is bulky from working out, the style makes him look shorter and stouter. The crewcut didn't help things either. For him, a little lift to the hair and a cut with wider shoulders, narrow waist, and slightly looser slackers would fit the best; a longer jacket will also give him a more tapered look.
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Gassy Man wrote:
    Lazenby:

    Best: Black pinstripe three-piece in M's office.
    Worst: Hotel bathrobe.

    Do you mean the navy flannel chalk stripe suit at the end or the navy herringbone suit at the beginning? I'm partial to the herringbone suit. Bond only wears black suits to funerals.

    I must disagree about the bathrobe. The hotel bathrobe is one of the greatest pieces of clothing in the film. Have you forgotten how spectacular it looks on Diana Rigg? We're lucky Bond doesn't stand up in it, considering it just barely covers Diana Rigg's crotch, and she is five inches shorter. And I don't think it's fair to poorly judge outfits that Bond wears that aren't his own. The exception would be the multiple outfits Bond steals in QoS, which look fantastic.
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  • Agent LeeAgent Lee Posts: 254MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Agent Lee wrote:
    Matt S wrote:

    They fit poorly. It doesn't matter how well-made the suits are, how nice the suitings are or how well-cut the suit is if it doesn't fit. They would be very nice suits on a teenage Daniel Craig. The suit jackets are the right length for someone about 5'6"-5'8" tall, not 5'10". The same goes for the short rise of the trousers. The jackets can't fit across his chest, the shoulders are too narrow, and the sleeves are so narrow they can't hang neatly. The trousers are also so narrow that they cling to his legs. The cloths are very, very nice, but the cloths are wool, not spandex.

    Clearly you're someone who has some professional expertise about this, so I don't have much of an argument about whether or not they fit right. What I will say is, in a heightened reality (and Bond is always a heightened reality), I don't think it matters too much about whether or not they would fit in the traditional sense. What matters is the aesthetic, and it seems clear to me that the suits were designed to be very tight purely for the aesthetic. Whether or not it's an aesthetic that appeals to you is another matter, but I don't think it's really fair to judge the success of the look by the rules of how well a wool suit fits in the real world.

    How does this aesthetic work for the film and the character? Suits can fit very closely without fitting so poorly. Why is Bond wearing suits that are too small on him now since this has never come up before? Based on the story, Bond is not in great shape, so his suits can't be too small because he got extra buff. Is it because Bond got fat that his suit can barely close? The poor fit is exaggerated in the heightened reality of film, which makes me think it's even more important that a suit fits well on screen.

    I must just be out of my element here when it comes to how suits should fit. Like Gassy Man said, I just thought the SF suits were of the contemporary cut. They may have "fit poorly" on Craig's bulky physique, but I guess all I see is the tighter contemporary cut of suit that I like to wear. I also like them because they evoke Connery's suits with the thin solid color ties. Bottom line, they look fantastic to me.
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  • Will OnceWill Once Surrey, EnglandPosts: 24MI6 Agent
    Sean Connery -
    Best - GF Grey glen check 3 piece suit (this is the best piece ever worn by a Bond)
    Worst - GF blue terrycloth onesie

    George Lazenby -
    Best - His PTS Suit
    Worst - The Kilt

    Roger Moore -
    Best - AFTAK tuxedo at Zorin's chatueau
    Worst - Safari suit

    Timothy Dalton -
    Best - Assault gear from TLD PTS
    Worst - Afghan gear

    Pierce Brosnan -
    Best - Any tux from any film (he wears them very well)
    Worst - horrible jacket from TND PTS

    Daniel Craig -
    Best - Navy pinstripe suit from closing scene of CR
    Worst- Skyfall suits

    This was more or less what I was going to say. Surely, the debate has to stop at Connery's towelling onesie?
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Gassy Man wrote:
    Lazenby:

    Best: Black pinstripe three-piece in M's office.
    Worst: Hotel bathrobe.

    Do you mean the navy flannel chalk stripe suit at the end or the navy herringbone suit at the beginning? I'm partial to the herringbone suit. Bond only wears black suits to funerals.

    I must disagree about the bathrobe. The hotel bathrobe is one of the greatest pieces of clothing in the film. Have you forgotten how spectacular it looks on Diana Rigg? We're lucky Bond doesn't stand up in it, considering it just barely covers Diana Rigg's crotch, and she is five inches shorter. And I don't think it's fair to poorly judge outfits that Bond wears that aren't his own. The exception would be the multiple outfits Bond steals in QoS, which look fantastic.
    This bit right here, which shows as black or nearly so on my DVD, but I suppose it could have been color corrected from dark blue:


    George_Lazenby_On_Her_Majesty_s_Secret_Service.jpg

    It is interesting how different the colors can be given the lighting, DVD, TV settings, age of the print, and so forth.

    I'd say anything Bond wears is fair game for worst outfit, his or begged, borrowed, or stolen. I almost said the black formal wear Bond wears as Hillary Bray but the bathrobe just beat it out.
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    Agent Lee wrote:
    Matt S wrote:
    Agent Lee wrote:

    Clearly you're someone who has some professional expertise about this, so I don't have much of an argument about whether or not they fit right. What I will say is, in a heightened reality (and Bond is always a heightened reality), I don't think it matters too much about whether or not they would fit in the traditional sense. What matters is the aesthetic, and it seems clear to me that the suits were designed to be very tight purely for the aesthetic. Whether or not it's an aesthetic that appeals to you is another matter, but I don't think it's really fair to judge the success of the look by the rules of how well a wool suit fits in the real world.

    How does this aesthetic work for the film and the character? Suits can fit very closely without fitting so poorly. Why is Bond wearing suits that are too small on him now since this has never come up before? Based on the story, Bond is not in great shape, so his suits can't be too small because he got extra buff. Is it because Bond got fat that his suit can barely close? The poor fit is exaggerated in the heightened reality of film, which makes me think it's even more important that a suit fits well on screen.

    I must just be out of my element here when it comes to how suits should fit. Like Gassy Man said, I just thought the SF suits were of the contemporary cut. They may have "fit poorly" on Craig's bulky physique, but I guess all I see is the tighter contemporary cut of suit that I like to wear. I also like them because they evoke Connery's suits with the thin solid color ties. Bottom line, they look fantastic to me.
    They are contemporary. Essentially, they are copies of suits from the middle 1960s, only cut tighter (more like the mod fashions of the time). The thin ties are from the era, though they were more or less brought back in the 1980s, initially by New Wave fashion. I still have thin ties from that era and also used to wear my father's from the 1960s.

    The modern take generally has narrower shoulders, higher armholes, higher notched lapels, and a bit of a bell at the bottom of the jacket, which is usually shorter than traditional jackets. The pants are cut extra tight. In Craig's case, they seem to cinch the waist a bit more than most of the jackets are cut.

    To me, the style is wrong for his body type. But I also felt that the Goldfinger three-piece copy did not fit him very well at the end of Casino Royale -- it made him look stockier. As I said, with his body type, he really needs a suit that follows his lines better, and he should avoid vests. He is not particularly tall, but he has wide shoulders, thicker arms, and a narrow waist. His legs are not particularly long for his body, either, as evidenced when he is in sweat clothes and while he walks along the beach, but they are proportional for his height.

    Nonetheless, the modern suit cut is almost exactly the opposite of Craig's body type. The narrow cut makes his shoulders seemed cramped and his neck stockier. The shorter jacket draws attention to his hips, which make his legs look shorter. The tighter pants then make his legs look thinner than they are.

    This is why Craig looks more proportional either in casual wear or with his clothes mostly off in Skyfall. He doesn't look so bad in the "Count Orlok" overcoat because it follows the lines of his body. In some shots, he looks okay in a suit, but it's mostly because he is standing still. When he is moving -- such as atop the train -- the stockiness from the suit is most obvious. To me, they did the best job overall with his suits in Casino Royale, though some suits in Quantum of Solace look good, too. Of course, when things are in style, they tend to look better to people than when they are out of style so his look does seem current.
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    For comparisons -- and they're a bit rough -- here is Craig in a suit, jacket buttoned, in Skyfall. While this is a better shot of Craig in a suit, you can see how it fits considerably more snugly than Connery's suit in Thunderball, which has a similar design but a looser (and in my mind, more correct) fit. Note how Craig's jacket and slacks wrinkle considerably because of the fit and cut rather than drape the way a good suit should. Both feature the thin tie and white pocket square. Because Connery is taller, he seems more slender, even though the suit fits looser on him.


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    Craig doesn't look bad in this shot, in part because of how he is posed while walking and in part because the angle is downward. But in the fight atop the train, he clearly looks much stockier in the suit.


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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    I'm not sure myself, but what Make we're the Suits that Dalton wore?
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  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    Couldn't give a **** about suits. The film was excellent - that's all that matters
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    We need a Higgins Signal, something like the Bat Signal :D
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Gassy Man wrote:
    To me, the style is wrong for his body type. But I also felt that the Goldfinger three-piece copy did not fit him very well at the end of Casino Royale -- it made him look stockier. As I said, with his body type, he really needs a suit that follows his lines better, and he should avoid vests. He is not particularly tall, but he has wide shoulders, thicker arms, and a narrow waist. His legs are not particularly long for his body, either, as evidenced when he is in sweat clothes and while he walks along the beach, but they are proportional for his height.

    Not sure how the suit at the end of CR is a copy of the GF suit (different colour and pattern, and completely different cut and style), but the reason why it looks bad is because the waistcoat is too long. Longer vests make people look stockier. And because it is too long it cant conform to his body as well as it should. Compare it with Sean Connery's shorter waistcoats in GF, which give Connery great proportions. Three-piece suits need high-rise trousers like on Connery's suits, whereas on Craig's suits the waistcoats are made longer to reach the medium-rise trousers.
    Gassy Man wrote:
    For comparisons -- and they're a bit rough -- here is Craig in a suit, jacket buttoned, in Skyfall. While this is a better shot of Craig in a suit, you can see how it fits considerably more snugly than Connery's suit in Thunderball, which has a similar design but a looser (and in my mind, more correct) fit. Note how Craig's jacket and slacks wrinkle considerably because of the fit and cut rather than drape the way a good suit should. Both feature the thin tie and white pocket square. Because Connery is taller, he seems more slender, even though the suit fits looser on him.


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    Because of how much Craig's suit wrinkles, it means Craig's suit has a poor fit. If the fit was just as tight but fit smoothly, the suit would have a modern, tight fit. Those wrinkles are not acceptable.

    That suit Connery is wearing is the three-piece glen check suit from Goldfinger without the waistcoat. The image is from Woman of Straw, made just before Goldfinger.

    Gassy Man wrote:
    Craig doesn't look bad in this shot, in part because of how he is posed while walking and in part because the angle is downward. But in the fight atop the train, he clearly looks much stockier in the suit.


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    This suit was likely one of the larger ones made for action shots. A well-fitting suit should work in any situation. Different fits should not be necessary if the suit fits properly.
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  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    edited June 2015
    I can't recall because it's been a few years, but I read at least two if not more articles that said the suit worn by Craig at the end was a copy of the Goldfinger suit, though with a different fabric and color. I did a quick Google search, and now most of the writing is that it was based on the suit -- this site goes so far as to say "loosely":

    http://www.magnoliclothiers.com/royale-suit-tailor-made-suits-by-magnoli-clothiers-p-145.html

    I found other criticisms of Craig's suits and fitting similar to yours, though I remain unconvinced that the fit is the result of poor tailoring so much as the fashion-forward contemporary style, and because Craig is bulkier, it's even more obvious. Here are some images captured from clothiers and fashion Web sites regarding the look and fit of the cutting-edge contemporary suit:


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    Craig's suit fit is within that ballpark, but because he is not slender but bulkier in his muscularity, his body is going to be more "lumpy," and the suit is simply going to pull and crease. I wore many suits in my former life, and unless a suit has a looser fit -- which is should for Craig, even if it isn't the current fashion -- it will do that when buttoned.

    It appears that suit is not from Thunderball -- I Googled for that film because it was made in the middle 60s and the image came up, among the few where Connery in a suit was discernible. Here's a better image from the film, though the suit seems a bit wrinkled as Connery is in motion:



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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    edited June 2015
    Gassy Man wrote:
    I can't recall because it's been a few years, but I read at least two if not more articles that said the suit worn by Craig at the end was a copy of the Goldfinger suit, though with a different fabric and color. I did a quick Google search, and now most of the writing is that it was based on the suit -- this site goes so far as to say "loosely":

    http://www.magnoliclothiers.com/royale-suit-tailor-made-suits-by-magnoli-clothiers-p-145.html

    I found other criticisms of Craig's suits and fitting similar to yours, though I remain unconvinced that the fit is the result of poor tailoring so much as the fashion-forward contemporary style, and because Craig is bulkier, it's even more obvious. Here are some images captured from clothiers and fashion Web sites regarding the look and fit of the cutting-edge contemporary suit:

    People just say that about the CR suit because the glen check three-piece suit in Goldfinger is the only three-piece suit they remember. The CR suit has three buttons rather than two. It doesn't have a ticket pocket. The trousers have a belt and darts instead of side-adjusters and forward pleats. The waistcoat doesn't have lapels. It has more in common with every other three-piece suit Bond has worn since then. It's like saying every three piece suit Bond has worn (he has worn many) is a copy of the glen check suit in Goldfinger. It's just another three-piece suit and overall has the most in common with the navy striped three-piece suit in DAF.

    Fashion-forward contemporary style means a close fit and a short fit. This can be achieved without the excessive wrinkling of the suits in Skyfall. The suits were not fitted properly to hug his body. Daniel Craig's bulkiness is no excuse for a suit to crease and pull more. The suit doesn't have to be as loose as Connery's suits to fit his athletic body. Good tailoring and the right cut can fit around Craig's bulkiness. Craig's suits were designed for him, so we're not talking about adjusting a ready-to-wear suit, which would be extremely difficult to fit properly on a bulky physique.
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  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Gassy Man wrote:
    I can't recall because it's been a few years, but I read at least two if not more articles that said the suit worn by Craig at the end was a copy of the Goldfinger suit, though with a different fabric and color. I did a quick Google search, and now most of the writing is that it was based on the suit -- this site goes so far as to say "loosely":

    http://www.magnoliclothiers.com/royale-suit-tailor-made-suits-by-magnoli-clothiers-p-145.html

    I found other criticisms of Craig's suits and fitting similar to yours, though I remain unconvinced that the fit is the result of poor tailoring so much as the fashion-forward contemporary style, and because Craig is bulkier, it's even more obvious. Here are some images captured from clothiers and fashion Web sites regarding the look and fit of the cutting-edge contemporary suit:

    People just say that about the CR suit because the glen check three-piece suit in Goldfinger is the only three-piece suit they remember. The CR suit has three buttons rather than two. It doesn't have a ticket pocket. The trousers have a belt and darts instead of side-adjusters and forward pleats. The waistcoat doesn't have lapels. It has more in common with every other three-piece suit Bond has worn since then. It's like saying every three piece suit Bond has worn (he has worn many) is a copy of the glen check suit in Goldfinger. It's just another three-piece suit and overall has the most in common with the navy striped three-piece suit in DAF.

    Fashion-forward contemporary style means a close fit and a short fit. This can be achieved without the excessive wrinkling of the suits in Skyfall. The suits were not fitted properly to hug his body. Daniel Craig's bulkiness is no excuse for a suit to crease and pull more. The suit doesn't have to be as loose as Connery's suits to fit his athletic body. Good tailoring and the right cut can fit around Craig's bulkiness. Craig's suits were designed for him, so we're not talking about adjusting a ready-to-wear suit, which would be extremely difficult to fit properly on a bulky physique.
    I believe all that about the Goldfinger suit, not having paid much attention to the suit proper, but do recall writers saying it literally was based on the pattern for the Goldfinger suit.

    Regarding Craig's suit, though, tailors I spoke to in the day said it was always harder to fit a suit for a man with a bulky, muscular frame. The body literally is more lumpy than someone with a more slender frame -- say Brosnan, for instance. That's one of the reasons looser suits are usually prescribed for such a body type, and one of the reasons clothes were so bulky in the 80s, as the male body type desired was closer to Stallone and Schwarzenegger. When that person moves and the suit is buttoned, it will wrinkle quite a bit.

    But it really is fashion-forward today for the suit to be tight to the point of wrinkling, even while standing still, at least among young people. The styles today are, in their own way, as off-putting and ironic as they were in the 1970s. Nerd glasses, loud, clashing patterns and colors, "too small" fit and style. It's not athletic or tapered but literally shrunk-looking. That's among those who consider themselves quite fashionable. For someone more conservative, as with the 1970s, more traditional colors and fits are available, though adapted to the current overall stylings. Tom Ford, and I'm assuming with Daniel Craig's input, is trying to make Bond seem more cutting edge than conservative, as he has generally been presented in the past.

    I like a fitted suit. I was, for a long time, slender but muscular but not bulky. The fitted suit was exactly what I should wear, but it wasn't in style at the time. Now that it is, unfortunately, I have something of a spare tire that men get, especially as they creep toward their 50s. I'm losing it steadily but not without considerable effort. But Craig is built more like an action figure, and unless he stands still, the suit wrinkles.
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    One last thing I'll say. Though Craig is arguably an inch or two taller than me, we are similar physically in a lot of ways. We walk similarly and share some other habits of movement. When Casino Royale came out, my best friend said that except for the blond hair, Craig and I could be mistaken from behind, especially in the scene where he walks up to the Aston Martin at the hotel. I, too, was shocked at how much Craig's movements and posture were like mine. He is more muscular than I am, but I also have wide shoulders for someone my size. I recall getting jackets tailored back in the day and because of the shoulder-to-waist ratio, it was tough for tailors to get the fit across the chest and abdomen so it didn't bunch up. And I bought expensive suits and worked with some of the better tailors in the area. I remember asking one of them if I should just have the suits custom made, and he told me I would essentially have the same problem. It wasn't a matter of the tailoring but of the body type, as I tapered not just from shoulders to wait but from chest to stomach. Add in Craig's additional bulk, and I can see how it would be a problem. I'm curious, too, as to whether Craig's suit fabrics have a little stretchable fabric in them.
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