Duel of the Martin Campbell 007 Films (Casino Royale vs. GoldenEye)

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So Martin Campbell has directed 2 films so far for the EON 007 franchise. Given that they share his direction as a common denominator, I'm curious as to how you would compare and contrast the 2. Which do you prefer and why? Also, what's your overall opinion of Campbell's legacy on the 007 franchise?

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New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
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Comments

  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    edited October 2015
    I notice that there was another thread posted pitting both films against each other, so I dunno if this thread should be closed.
    "Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
    New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
    1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
    Bond actors to be re-ranked later
  • HatThrowingHenchmanHatThrowingHenchman Russia With LovePosts: 1,834MI6 Agent
    first of all I'd say that he's a great director, I like both movies very much.
    whilst GE is very dark in tone and still deals with the cold war, CR is lighter and a lot more colourful.
    both films are special to me: GE was the first Bond movie I ever saw, CR was the first I ever saw at the cinema.
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,292Chief of Staff
    I notice that there was another thread posted pitting both films against each other, so I dunno if this thread should be closed.

    Which thread is that, HTH?
  • DutchJamesBondFanDutchJamesBondFan the NetherlandsPosts: 414MI6 Agent
    My personal nr. 1 of the series is CR and number 2 is GE. Campbell is one of my favourite Bond directors and he did a terrific job with both films. But I have to go with CR, the script is better and I love the story, but GE is a solid number 2 om my list. :x
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  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    Casino Royale

    With GE, I was aware that it was missing something....
    1. For Your Eyes Only 2. The Living Daylights 3 From Russia with Love 4. Casino Royale 5. OHMSS 6. Skyfall
  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    I notice that there was another thread posted pitting both films against each other, so I dunno if this thread should be closed.

    Which thread is that, HTH?

    This is the one:

    http://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/32947/goldeneye-vs-casino-royale/
    "Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
    New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
    1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
    Bond actors to be re-ranked later
  • DutchfingerDutchfinger Holland With LovePosts: 1,240MI6 Agent
    Great thread, and both movies have been in my personal top 5 for quite a while now! As of this moment I still rank GE higher, though i'm starting to lean towards CR more recently too. I'll say this though: Martin Campbell potentially rescued the franchise from a downfall twice, and (much like DN) he made two of the best debut movies of new Bond actors.
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    Objectively speaking CR is the better film, but subjectively GE is just more fun to watch.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Objectively speaking CR is the better film, but subjectively GE is just more fun to watch.

    If I was pressed to say which one I think is more well-made, I might say CR would edge it out.

    But like you, I prefer GE no question.

    It would be interesting for me to make a ranking based on how well-made I think the films are, but I wouldn't be surprised if it dramatically contradicts my subjective ranking.
    "Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
    New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
    1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
    Bond actors to be re-ranked later
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,292Chief of Staff
    Barbel wrote:
    I notice that there was another thread posted pitting both films against each other, so I dunno if this thread should be closed.

    Which thread is that, HTH?

    This is the one:

    http://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/32947/goldeneye-vs-casino-royale/

    Thanks- I'll close this one, then, and anyone who wants can carry on this discussion in the older thread.
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