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Thunderpussy wrote:

Just mentioned on bbc news that spectre is the #1 film in all 71
countries it has been released in and has taken well over
$200 million so far  ajb007/martini

ajb007/cheers

According to Box Office Mojo it has done $293m so far. So the production budget is done, now just the marking budget  ajb007/martini

1. TWINE  2. FYEO  3. MR  4. TLD  5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS  7. DN  8. OP  9. AVTAK  10. TMWTGG  11. QoS 12. GE  13. CR  14. TB  15. FRWL  16. LTK  17. GF  18. SF  19. LaLD  20. YOLT  21. TND  22. DAD  23. DAF.   1st: Moore  2nd: Connery  3rd: Brosnan  4th: Dalton   5th: Craig

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heartbroken_mr_drax wrote:
Thunderpussy wrote:

Just mentioned on bbc news that spectre is the #1 film in all 71
countries it has been released in and has taken well over
$200 million so far  ajb007/martini

ajb007/cheers

According to Box Office Mojo it has done $293m so far. So the production budget is done, now just the marking budget  ajb007/martini

It's going to be fine---a huge hit. And the critics, as always, can go pound sand.

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HowardB wrote:

According to Forbes (which ironically panned the film) SPECTRE grossed 73 million this weekend in the US, second best for a Bond film behind Skyfall.

It will be interesting to see what happens from here. Pretty impressive considering the negative reviews. It will be interesting to see if positive word of mouth propels the film going forward.

Actually it came in at $70.3 Million which is about $20.4 Million less than SkygeFallen .

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Yep. A huge hit. They're not all going to be the Biggest Hit In British Film History  ajb007/martini

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Critics have always had a hard time with Bond.

The formula is the success of the franchise. Young and old people continually go to the Bond films at the movies because they know what they're in for and they adore the experience. I've only got a few friends who are regular movie-goers, but they all make the effort to see Bond.

Critics are always looking for something original - I guess that's why they loved CR (reboot of formula, with a new Bond) and loved SF because it wasn't really a Bond film.

I seriously don't think people who read the critic's concensus on Rotten Tomatoes which says...

Spectre nudges Daniel Craig's rebooted Bond closer to the glorious, action-driven spectacle of earlier entries, although it's admittedly reliant on established 007 formula.

...would avoid the film because of that. It's actually a further reason to go.

1. TWINE  2. FYEO  3. MR  4. TLD  5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS  7. DN  8. OP  9. AVTAK  10. TMWTGG  11. QoS 12. GE  13. CR  14. TB  15. FRWL  16. LTK  17. GF  18. SF  19. LaLD  20. YOLT  21. TND  22. DAD  23. DAF.   1st: Moore  2nd: Connery  3rd: Brosnan  4th: Dalton   5th: Craig

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heartbroken_mr_drax wrote:

Critics have always had a hard time with Bond.

The formula is the success of the franchise. Young and old people continually go to the Bond films at the movies because they know what they're in for and they adore the experience. I've only got a few friends who are regular movie-goers, but they all make the effort to see Bond.

Critics are always looking for something original - I guess that's why they loved CR (reboot of formula, with a new Bond) and loved SF because it wasn't really a Bond film.

I seriously don't think people who read the critic's concensus on Rotten Tomatoes which says...

Spectre nudges Daniel Craig's rebooted Bond closer to the glorious, action-driven spectacle of earlier entries, although it's admittedly reliant on established 007 formula.

...would avoid the film because of that. It's actually a further reason to go.

Correct  ajb007/martini

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In all fairness, Mr. Mendes stages a few supersonic chases on water, snow and in the empty streets of both Rome and New York where nothing moves, resulting in a “been there, seen that” effect. Rome without motorcycles and gas fumes, and Manhattan without jaywalkers and traffic jams should tell you something about how much Ian Fleming’s popular Bond stories have degenerated into little more than contrived, formulaic fairy tales

Stupid stupid man. Not as cosmopolitan as he thinks he is...

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broadshoulder wrote:

In all fairness, Mr. Mendes stages a few supersonic chases on water, snow and in the empty streets of both Rome and New York where nothing moves, resulting in a “been there, seen that” effect. Rome without motorcycles and gas fumes, and Manhattan without jaywalkers and traffic jams should tell you something about how much Ian Fleming’s popular Bond stories have degenerated into little more than contrived, formulaic fairy tales

Stupid stupid man. Not as cosmopolitan as he thinks he is...

It's the movies  ajb007/lol  what a prick.

1. TWINE  2. FYEO  3. MR  4. TLD  5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS  7. DN  8. OP  9. AVTAK  10. TMWTGG  11. QoS 12. GE  13. CR  14. TB  15. FRWL  16. LTK  17. GF  18. SF  19. LaLD  20. YOLT  21. TND  22. DAD  23. DAF.   1st: Moore  2nd: Connery  3rd: Brosnan  4th: Dalton   5th: Craig

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And it's probably 3 or 4 in the morning when the Rome car chase happens and I'm guessing there aren't many cars on the street at that time of the morning.

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Gala Brand wrote:

And it's probably 3 or 4 in the morning when the Rome car chase happens and I'm guessing there aren't many cars on the street at that time of the morning.

When Ridley Scott was shooting Black Rain's motorcycle race under the FDR in Manhattan I was shocked. I regularly used the road right where they filmed, and one day ALL of the abandoned & burnt out cars were gone. It was so *clean*. ajb007/amazed
Of course, they need it to be clear for the race, but my point is that in the movies we rarely see any city au naturale.

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I lived in Italy forty years ago.  I used to go to Rome on Sat and stay overnight on average at least once a month.  It's true that it's not packed with crowds and Vespas and Fiats at 3am Sun but Romans dined late and back then they partied late.  I doubt if that's changed much and even though the population has dropped a few hundred thousand from about three million then (not including the tourists), I'd be astonished if you could find any stretches of the main roads in the center of the city , such as where the car chase took place, without traffic and people - even in the middle of the week.
Now,  there is a little caveat to this.  In the summer (especially in August) when it get's really hot businesses shut down and families go to the coasts for some r&r and to cool off.  I never went to Rome in those months for the same reason.  It's quite possible you probably could see much of the main areas deserted in the middle of the night, so if this story is supposed to be taking place in August it could be plausible.  However, given the fact that the characters are dressed in coats at the funeral and that Bond is in snow covered Austria and that it looks pretty cold in the London scenes and we know when these were actually shot, I don't think the story is supposed to be taking place in the late summer.

This film and others (like Rogue Nation, which shows the same fantasy of car and foot chases with constant shooting in London with a total absence of law enforcement or other people or vehicles around) are all guilty of leaving out this reality.  At least in the Bourne chases they digitally inserted autos near the chases and crashes to inflate the amount of traffic nearby. However, this is less noticeable given the speed of the takes and the editing.

As long as there are insurance companies and as long as audiences want these type of high speed chases, we will keep seeing them done in empty streets and open roads in deserted areas for the foreseeable future.

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The predictions regarding Spectre's comparatively unstellar box office are probably essentially accurate.  While I enjoy the film better than Skyfall, as I think it's more traditional and a nod to fans yearning something resembling a Bond film, audiences wanting something else are likely to be disappointed:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendel … r=yahootix

I hadn't expected it to take the drubbing from so many American critics.  British critics, who generally seem more harsh to me, nonetheless seem to have been open-minded as a group to Spectre. In a lot of ways, Spectre seems like more of an American film, with weaker dialogue and character and more attention on the action, but the bad reviews may be helping to keep audiences away.  That's a shame because Spectre is to me miles ahead of both Skyfall and Quantum of Solace.

What's interesting about the Forbes article is how is seems to suggest that the bigger and more epic Bond films, especially if they follow a strong commercial predecessor, do less box office.  That is not consistent, but it seems truer more often than not.

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I don't understand these arguments that SP will make about $175 million US domestic.

Rogue Nation opened to $55 million and SP beat it by better than 25%. RN ended up doing $195 million US domestic and I see no reason why SP can't do at least $225 million, even allowing for the fact that RN got better reviews.

I expect SP to be at about $140 million US domestic after this weekend, which will make a prediction of $175 million total look prety silly.

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Gala Brand wrote:

I don't understand these arguments that SP will make about $175 million US domestic.

Rogue Nation opened to $55 million and SP beat it by better than 25%. RN ended up doing $195 million US domestic and I see no reason why SP can't do at least $225 million, even allowing for the fact that RN got better reviews.

I expect SP to be at about $140 million US domestic after this weekend, which will make a prediction of $175 million total look pretty silly.

And the idea that the worldwide gross will be $650 million is truly ludicrous. It will be near $500 million after this weekend and it won't have even opened in China.

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Currently at $302m. This weekend will be interesting.

1. TWINE  2. FYEO  3. MR  4. TLD  5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS  7. DN  8. OP  9. AVTAK  10. TMWTGG  11. QoS 12. GE  13. CR  14. TB  15. FRWL  16. LTK  17. GF  18. SF  19. LaLD  20. YOLT  21. TND  22. DAD  23. DAF.   1st: Moore  2nd: Connery  3rd: Brosnan  4th: Dalton   5th: Craig

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I think it will likely still be top this weekend although The Coopers could jump it, but next week the Hunger Games opens and that will blow it away. It may be a strong second, but significantly behind that one I suspect.

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The Domino Effect wrote:

I think it will likely still be top this weekend although The Coopers could jump it, but next week the Hunger Games opens and that will blow it away. It may be a strong second, but significantly behind that one I suspect.


This film will sell DVD's and BR in the millions when it's available, it's made a boat load already.

Slating Bond is a pastime with some critics, anyone who thinks this is the worst Bond film in 30 years has been mind f~~~~d by Blofeld.

I smell a rat

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Willard Whyte wrote:

Slating Bond is a pastime with some critics, anyone who thinks this is the worst Bond film in 30 years has been mind f~~~~d by Blofeld.

ajb007/cheers

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Scott Mendelson, in particular slagged SP. Now he appears to be hoping for a very weeak box office ($650 million? Really??) to somehow justify his review.

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If SF had been a disaster critics would be loving this movie, but they all gave it rave reviews & it did crazy BO, so naturally they will no longer hail the king. They build 'em up so they can enjoy the rush of knockin' 'em down, the impotent power hungry little trolls. ajb007/mad
ajb007/tongue

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Willard Whyte wrote:
The Domino Effect wrote:

I think it will likely still be top this weekend although The Coopers could jump it, but next week the Hunger Games opens and that will blow it away. It may be a strong second, but significantly behind that one I suspect.


This film will sell DVD's and BR in the millions when it's available, it's made a boat load already.

Slating Bond is a pastime with some critics, anyone who thinks this is the worst Bond film in 30 years has been mind f~~~~d by Blofeld.


Agree, have not seen Spectre yet, but it can't possibly be worse than QoS...

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Gala Brand wrote:

Scott Mendelson, in particular slagged SP. Now he appears to be hoping for a very weeak box office ($650 million? Really??) to somehow justify his review.

Which why I'd love his hyperbolically negative review to be of a $900 million smash hit  ajb007/shifty

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Loeffelholz wrote:
Gala Brand wrote:

Scott Mendelson, in particular slagged SP. Now he appears to be hoping for a very weeak box office ($650 million? Really??) to somehow justify his review.

Which why I'd love his hyperbolically negative review to be of a $900 million smash hit  ajb007/shifty

It's funny. Scott Mendelson is a pretty big Bond fan and has contributed to several feature-length Bond commentaries on the Out Now podcast. He also defends his viewpoint in one (in short, QoS is underrated, and while DAD may be bad, it didn't bore him as much as Spectre did). I might not agree with his opinion, but it doesn't come from a critic with a grudge.

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Carter wrote:
Loeffelholz wrote:
Gala Brand wrote:

Scott Mendelson, in particular slagged SP. Now he appears to be hoping for a very weeak box office ($650 million? Really??) to somehow justify his review.

Which why I'd love his hyperbolically negative review to be of a $900 million smash hit  ajb007/shifty

It's funny. Scott Mendelson is a pretty big Bond fan and has contributed to several feature-length Bond commentaries on the Out Now podcast. He also defends his viewpoint in one (in short, QoS is underrated, and while DAD may be bad, it didn't bore him as much as Spectre did). I might not agree with his opinion, but it doesn't come from a critic with a grudge.

Yeah, Bond fans are totally capable of hyperbole in their negativity, LOL...one need look no further than these boards  ajb007/cheers  At least he doesn't condemn it for being a Bond film, which many Yank reviewers have  ajb007/insane

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Carter wrote:
Loeffelholz wrote:
Gala Brand wrote:

Scott Mendelson, in particular slagged SP. Now he appears to be hoping for a very weeak box office ($650 million? Really??) to somehow justify his review.

Which why I'd love his hyperbolically negative review to be of a $900 million smash hit  ajb007/shifty

It's funny. Scott Mendelson is a pretty big Bond fan and has contributed to several feature-length Bond commentaries on the Out Now podcast. He also defends his viewpoint in one (in short, QoS is underrated, and while DAD may be bad, it didn't bore him as much as Spectre did). I might not agree with his opinion, but it doesn't come from a critic with a grudge.


Precisely! It's not impossible for a bad movie to be commercially successful - and the other way round. So even if SP makes 2 billion dollars, Mendelson's review won't be invalidated.