Which villain was the most evil?

JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,236MI6 Agent
I think I would have to say Drax. Purely because of his intentions, he aimed to kill all humans on earth.

Who would you say was the most evil?
1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
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  • hehadlotsofgutshehadlotsofguts Durham England Posts: 2,107MI6 Agent
    Add Sanchez to that list as well.Mainly because of the creative ways that he would punish henchmen
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  • Thunderbird 2Thunderbird 2 East of Cardiff, Wales.Posts: 2,777MI6 Agent
    Jarvio wrote:
    I think I would have to say Drax. Purely because of his intentions, he aimed to kill all humans on earth.

    Who would you say was the most evil?
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    Thunderbird Too.

    Except - Stromberg was just as bad planning global destruction for the same ends but for an underwater utopia in TSWLM.

    I would include Blofeld in YOLT, except he had Spectre working in conjunction with other. (It seems to imply China.)
    This is Thunderbird 2, how can I be of assistance?
  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia, PAPosts: 753MI6 Agent
    Lewis Gilbert sure had some evil villains!

    Drax - Destroying and recreating the human race is pretty ambitious and evil!

    Stromberg - Starting nuclear war for purposes of starting underwater civilization.

    In addition...

    Eliot Carver - Starting World War III for profit is pretty selfish and evil.

    Good point on Sanchez, just for the cruelty of how he disposed of his enemies and allies alike.
  • ManxmanManxman Posts: 122MI6 Agent
    Drax, who wanted to destroy virtually the entire human race. (This, of course, is one of the great weaknesses of Moonraker — why didn't anyone who heard about his intentions call the nearest secure mental hospital and schedule a pick-up?)
  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    I'd say Elektra is pretty evil, even though it isn't on a world scale. She went along with the killing of her father, tricking a family friend (lovely Judi Dench), falling in love with Bond and then detonating a nuclear bomb in Istanbul to wipe out other pipelines and push the business!

    Evil!
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

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  • MilleniumForceMilleniumForce LondonPosts: 1,214MI6 Agent
    Stromberg, Drax, Zorin, Sanchez, Carver, Elektra.
    1.LTK 2.AVTAK 3.OP 4.FYEO 5.TND 6.LALD 7.GE 8.GF 9.TSWLM 10.SPECTRE 11.SF 12.MR 13.YOLT 14.TLD 15.CR (06) 16.TMWTGG 17.TB 18.FRWL 19.TWINE 20.OHMSS 21.DAF 22.DAD 23.QoS 24.NSNA 25.DN 26.CR (67)
  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,236MI6 Agent
    Without giving away any spoilers, I also think the SP villain is pretty damn evil.
    1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

    1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
  • James SuzukiJames Suzuki New ZealandPosts: 2,406MI6 Agent
    Jarvio wrote:
    Without giving away any spoilers, I also think the SP villain is pretty damn evil.
    +1
    I also find Kanagha's plot about heroin pretty evil in LALD
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  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    I'd have to say Drax. The Nazi side is showing
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  • am747am747 Posts: 720MI6 Agent
    While villains such as Drax, Stromberg, etc. are definitely evil. Relatively speaking, I find guys such as Blofeld, Zorin, etc. more evil .... Drax and company had an ulterior motive relating to eventually creating something valuable (ecosystem for e.g.) in their opinion. While the likes of Blofeld, Zorin, etc. would not hesitate to kill 1000s (and keep on doing that) just to make a quick profit or push an agenda.
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    am747 wrote:
    While villains such as Drax, Stromberg, etc. are definitely evil. Relatively speaking, I find guys such as Blofeld, Zorin, etc. more evil .... Drax and company had an ulterior motive relating to eventually creating something valuable (ecosystem for e.g.) in their opinion. While the likes of Blofeld, Zorin, etc. would not hesitate to kill 1000s (and keep on doing that) just to make a quick profit or push an agenda.

    Drax had a vision. The vision was to exterminate all non-lovely people and build a new master race. He would carry on until he succeeded. Rather like the Nazis. His ideology conquered all.
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  • The Red KindThe Red Kind EnglandPosts: 3,123MI6 Agent
    1. Drax
    2. Blofeld
    3. Stromberg
    4. Carver
    5. Graves
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  • am747am747 Posts: 720MI6 Agent
    am747 wrote:
    While villains such as Drax, Stromberg, etc. are definitely evil. Relatively speaking, I find guys such as Blofeld, Zorin, etc. more evil .... Drax and company had an ulterior motive relating to eventually creating something valuable (ecosystem for e.g.) in their opinion. While the likes of Blofeld, Zorin, etc. would not hesitate to kill 1000s (and keep on doing that) just to make a quick profit or push an agenda.

    Drax had a vision. The vision was to exterminate all non-lovely people and build a new master race. He would carry on until he succeeded. Rather like the Nazis. His ideology conquered all.

    True. Whether Drax is evil is not being debated. It is about who is the most evil "relatively" speaking
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    am747 wrote:
    am747 wrote:
    While villains such as Drax, Stromberg, etc. are definitely evil. Relatively speaking, I find guys such as Blofeld, Zorin, etc. more evil .... Drax and company had an ulterior motive relating to eventually creating something valuable (ecosystem for e.g.) in their opinion. While the likes of Blofeld, Zorin, etc. would not hesitate to kill 1000s (and keep on doing that) just to make a quick profit or push an agenda.

    Drax had a vision. The vision was to exterminate all non-lovely people and build a new master race. He would carry on until he succeeded. Rather like the Nazis. His ideology conquered all.

    True. Whether Drax is evil is not being debated. It is about who is the most evil "relatively" speaking

    The title of the threads says "Who is the most evil?"

    No mention of "relatively speaking"
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  • am747am747 Posts: 720MI6 Agent
    am747 wrote:

    Drax had a vision. The vision was to exterminate all non-lovely people and build a new master race. He would carry on until he succeeded. Rather like the Nazis. His ideology conquered all.

    True. Whether Drax is evil is not being debated. It is about who is the most evil "relatively" speaking

    The title of the threads says "Who is the most evil?"

    No mention of "relatively speaking"

    "relatively speaking" is implied ;) .... unless you want to compare Drax to Joker or even Hitler :p
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    am747 wrote:
    am747 wrote:

    True. Whether Drax is evil is not being debated. It is about who is the most evil "relatively" speaking

    The title of the threads says "Who is the most evil?"

    No mention of "relatively speaking"

    "relatively speaking" is implied ;) .... unless you want to compare Drax to Joker or even Hitler :p

    Oh "implied" is it? (rolls eyes)

    Just messing with you :)) :)) :))
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  • MilleniumForceMilleniumForce LondonPosts: 1,214MI6 Agent
    am747 wrote:
    While villains such as Drax, Stromberg, etc. are definitely evil. Relatively speaking, I find guys such as Blofeld, Zorin, etc. more evil .... Drax and company had an ulterior motive relating to eventually creating something valuable (ecosystem for e.g.) in their opinion. While the likes of Blofeld, Zorin, etc. would not hesitate to kill 1000s (and keep on doing that) just to make a quick profit or push an agenda.

    I don't really understand. Drax was planning to kill EVERYONE just so he could start his own civilisation.
    1.LTK 2.AVTAK 3.OP 4.FYEO 5.TND 6.LALD 7.GE 8.GF 9.TSWLM 10.SPECTRE 11.SF 12.MR 13.YOLT 14.TLD 15.CR (06) 16.TMWTGG 17.TB 18.FRWL 19.TWINE 20.OHMSS 21.DAF 22.DAD 23.QoS 24.NSNA 25.DN 26.CR (67)
  • am747am747 Posts: 720MI6 Agent
    am747 wrote:

    The title of the threads says "Who is the most evil?"

    No mention of "relatively speaking"

    "relatively speaking" is implied ;) .... unless you want to compare Drax to Joker or even Hitler :p

    Oh "implied" is it? (rolls eyes)

    Just messing with you :)) :)) :))

    :)) {[]
  • am747am747 Posts: 720MI6 Agent
    am747 wrote:
    While villains such as Drax, Stromberg, etc. are definitely evil. Relatively speaking, I find guys such as Blofeld, Zorin, etc. more evil .... Drax and company had an ulterior motive relating to eventually creating something valuable (ecosystem for e.g.) in their opinion. While the likes of Blofeld, Zorin, etc. would not hesitate to kill 1000s (and keep on doing that) just to make a quick profit or push an agenda.

    I don't really understand. Drax was planning to kill EVERYONE just so he could start his own civilisation.

    You are mainly basing your criteria on the "# of people that are supposed to be killed" in a plot
  • MilleniumForceMilleniumForce LondonPosts: 1,214MI6 Agent
    am747 wrote:
    am747 wrote:
    While villains such as Drax, Stromberg, etc. are definitely evil. Relatively speaking, I find guys such as Blofeld, Zorin, etc. more evil .... Drax and company had an ulterior motive relating to eventually creating something valuable (ecosystem for e.g.) in their opinion. While the likes of Blofeld, Zorin, etc. would not hesitate to kill 1000s (and keep on doing that) just to make a quick profit or push an agenda.

    I don't really understand. Drax was planning to kill EVERYONE just so he could start his own civilisation.

    You are mainly basing your criteria on the "# of people that are supposed to be killed" in a plot

    No, I'm just saying that you said Zorin and Blofeld were more evil because they were willing to kill 1000s. And the number of people they plan to kill should be taken into account.
    1.LTK 2.AVTAK 3.OP 4.FYEO 5.TND 6.LALD 7.GE 8.GF 9.TSWLM 10.SPECTRE 11.SF 12.MR 13.YOLT 14.TLD 15.CR (06) 16.TMWTGG 17.TB 18.FRWL 19.TWINE 20.OHMSS 21.DAF 22.DAD 23.QoS 24.NSNA 25.DN 26.CR (67)
  • am747am747 Posts: 720MI6 Agent
    am747 wrote:

    I don't really understand. Drax was planning to kill EVERYONE just so he could start his own civilisation.

    You are mainly basing your criteria on the "# of people that are supposed to be killed" in a plot

    No, I'm just saying that you said Zorin and Blofeld were more evil because they were willing to kill 1000s. And the number of people they plan to kill should be taken into account.

    Willing to kill 1000s of people "to make a profit or push an agenda". So for theses types, it is more about $ and/or world domination even at the cost of making lives / planet miserable or unlivable for others

    Now take Drax for example. He would have figured that humans are going to destroy the planet anyways (and is full of Zorins and Blofelds). When the world gets destroyed, plants and animals get destroyed too. We can see how we have taken over almost every inch of this planet with little left for other species. Continued GH emissions could severely impact the planet. In an environment such as this, trying to create a new world where a positive ecosystem is maintained is not necessarily a bad intent "relatively"

    Take Dr. Strangelove for example. In that film, in the event of a nuclear disaster, it is discussed to keep the finest specimens in a safe environment :))
  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    I'll go with Drax, even if his plan is an altered version of Stromberg's, it's still very evil.

    Zorin has to be mentioned as well. It takes a lot of malice to massacre your own workers.
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    1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
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  • Virgil37Virgil37 Posts: 1,212MI6 Agent
    I'd say Sanchez and Silva off the top of my head.
  • am747am747 Posts: 720MI6 Agent
    Sanchez's character seems to be inspired by Pablo Escobar. There is a nice series on Escobar on Netflix :D
  • hehadlotsofgutshehadlotsofguts Durham England Posts: 2,107MI6 Agent
    He was also influenced from Noriega.
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  • GrindelwaldGrindelwald Posts: 1,294MI6 Agent
    Dunno most evil but imo Zorin was the most cruel......he reminds me of punks who torture/drown animals to death and are amused by it , heck even Scarpine seemed a bit shocked by it all (I guess Scarpine was the Martin Bormann of ZI , getting the dirty work done...while Zorin actually enjoyed torturing his men)
  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    heck even Scarpine seemed a bit shocked by it all

    Well Scarpine was a great guy! He laughed at "What the devil's wrong with these shoes..."
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

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  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    Zorin was a psychopath. He lacked a moral conscience, he didn't care at all about causing harm to others, he was a complete monster.

    Not caring about causing the death of many people in the process of getting to have a bigger hold of the microchip market takes a really sick man.
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    New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
    1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
    Bond actors to be re-ranked later
  • Julius No M.D.Julius No M.D. Posts: 110MI6 Agent
    Stromberg and Drax are the most evil. Like comparing Hitler and Stalin. Which is worse: someone who wants to kill most people or someone who wants kill most people and ethnically cleanse?
  • broadshoulderbroadshoulder Acton, London, UKPosts: 1,363MI6 Agent
    edited November 2015
    Stromberg and Drax are the most evil. Like comparing Hitler and Stalin. Which is worse: someone who wants to kill most people or someone who wants kill most people and ethnically cleanse?

    Agree with this. Someone who wants to wipe out mankind from behind a desk. Both driven by ideology. Very much Hitler and Stalin. Both were visionaries and were deluded.
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