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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 19,982MI6 Agent
    Tom Cruise actually plays a human being in this movie. It's been many years since the last time this happened :D
  • GymkataGymkata Minnesota, USAPosts: 4,148MI6 Agent
    KELLY'S HEROES

    Solid war film with a very amoral center. You need to get past the fact that the 'good guys' are essentially stealing gold from the Nazis (gold that was probably stolen from the Jews in the first place) and are only being heroic for selfish reasons. The cast is a lot of fun, with Donald Sutherland sticking out as being particularly noteworthy, and some of the antics are enjoyable. The war footage is pretty strong, though. If you want to see tanks in action, this is definitely up your alley.

    It suffers from some pacing bloat but it's otherwise a pretty well made film. Recommended.



    MY FAVORITE YEAR

    OK, now this is fun. It's a charming early 80s film with Peter O'Toole having the time of his life playing an Errol Flynn type character. His character, Alan Swann, is an aging movie star who is going to be a guest star on a live action comedy sketch show (modeled after YOUR SHOW OF SHOWS). He's assigned a handler to keep him on task and sober. It's a lot of fun and O'Toole is utterly charming in the role. Joseph Bologna also stands out as a character who is a riff on Sid Caesar. Highly recommended.
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  • IanFryerIanFryer Posts: 327MI6 Agent
    I've never gotten round to watching My Favourite Year, which I should remedy because it looks like great fun with a background in early television I'm just bound to like.

    Kelly's Heroes is an old favourite I watched not long ago. Always loved it, though Eastwood always said that the studio cut a lot of material out of the film whch would have made it a more meaningful anti-war piece in the manner of MASH.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,739MI6 Agent
    Agreed, I love Kelly's Heroes, a classic -{
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  • GymkataGymkata Minnesota, USAPosts: 4,148MI6 Agent
    To be clear, we enjoyed KELLY'S HEROES. I had some issues with the fundamental morality of what they were doing, but I didn't let that get in the way of my enjoyment of the film. It's pretty entertaining overall. I personally prefer WHERE EAGLES DARE when it comes to the Eastwood WW2 films (also directed by Brian G. Hutton), but this is a good one.
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  • IanFryerIanFryer Posts: 327MI6 Agent
    Gymkata wrote:
    To be clear, we enjoyed KELLY'S HEROES. I had some issues with the fundamental morality of what they were doing, but I didn't let that get in the way of my enjoyment of the film. It's pretty entertaining overall. I personally prefer WHERE EAGLES DARE when it comes to the Eastwood WW2 films (also directed by Brian G. Hutton), but this is a good one.

    Oh yes, the amorality (or even immorality) is key to the plot. Looting by civilians is punishable by death, their commanding officer has disappeared off with a yacht, but the much put-upon ordinary soldiers are somewhere in the middle, risking their lives on the front-line for standard army pay.

    The comedy comes from the disconnection of the upper ranks from the fighting men, as well as the larcenous nature of almost everyone in the film, but the film would have been much more powerful had it been made clear that this was not 'nazi gold', but, as you say, gold stolen from the victims of the nazis.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,739MI6 Agent
    Given the horror of the battle field and the
    Industrial death camps, .... I can forgive a little
    Bit of a heist. :)
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 19,982MI6 Agent
    The spy who dumped me

    I don't think this movie was very funny. There were few people in the audience and none of them were with me, but I still think it was rarely funny. And is that much and brutal violence really fitting in a comedy?

    But in spite of this the movie was pretty good :o
    Why? The plot was good, really. The fight scenes and action scenes were also good. I actually think this would have been a better movie if they had made it as a spy thriller with some (hopefully better) humour.

    Sam Heughan plays a MI6 agent here. He even has Bondian hair and a tux in the last part of the movie. He is also convincing i the action scenes. Based on this movie he could be a good future James Bond. If he was 5-10 years younger I'd even go as far as to say Sam Heughan would be my favourite!
  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 3,394MI6 Agent
    Gymkata wrote:
    To be clear, we enjoyed KELLY'S HEROES. I had some issues with the fundamental morality of what they were doing, but I didn't let that get in the way of my enjoyment of the film.
    did you see The Monuments Men, which deals with similar issues in a more responsible way, returning stolen Nazi art to its rightful owners? certainly had a damn fine cast
  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,842Chief of Staff
    did you see The Monuments Men, which deals with similar issues in a more responsible way, returning stolen Nazi art to its rightful owners? certainly had a damn fine cast

    I've seen it. Fine cast indeed, but a damn crashing bore of a movie.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,739MI6 Agent
    Just watched Kelly's Heroes on itv4 {[]
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  • GymkataGymkata Minnesota, USAPosts: 4,148MI6 Agent
    Never saw MONUMENTS MEN. Heard it wasn't very good, so I've kinda given it a wide berth.

    We did watch BULLITT last night. My wife had never seen it, so it was fun watching it with her. She didn't know about the car chase, so she went into that completely cold and was appropriately blown away. :)
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,739MI6 Agent
    In the mood for a classic, so I'm watching " The Italian Job " ( The original, not the re-make ) ;)
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  • GymkataGymkata Minnesota, USAPosts: 4,148MI6 Agent
    The remake ain't bad, though. it's not a classic by any means but it's pretty fun.
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  • IanFryerIanFryer Posts: 327MI6 Agent
    Just got back from seeing Ant Man and The Wasp. Terrific fun - Marvel are really going for laughs these days.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,739MI6 Agent
    The Meg ;
    Not a great movie, bit it is an enjoyable one -{
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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 9,716MI6 Agent
    Mission Impossible: Fallout on its last day for the moment at the BFI Imax Waterloo. I sat on the back row, on the left, imo the best seat as further down is a bit overwhelming.

    I liked it, but not as much as most everyone else seems to have done.

    I was begrudgingly entertained, I mean the action is very exciting and on your seat, impressive stuff. But it's also not credible or really believable, I mean driving a bike at high speed against opposing traffic in rush hour, or skipping the red lights at high speed repeatedly, y'know... I realise I may be missing the point here, like the middle-aged guy who went to see The Spy Who Loved Me and snorted: 'An underwater car? Rubbish!' but there you go. I suppose the whole comic book thing has altered the mean for what action scenes require these days.

    The other begrudging part is that you find yourself thinking, wow, that should have been in a Bond movie. I mean, the London set piece with St Paul's is terrific, yet all the London settings in recent Bonds and they came up with nothing as good as that. You do get the feeling the point of the MI films from the beginning was to ****-a-snoop at Bond and say, hey, we can do better! Which is a fair point, but you sort of have divided loyalties. What's more, some of these MI films really are just based around the two big set pieces and the rest is just pure McGuffin.

    That said, even the main villain in MI is very much like the modern Blofeld and is in exactly the same situation as we left Blofeld at the end of Spectre. It is hard to say what the Bond series would do about that one, and I think in some ways his organisation, though explained by a lot of yadda yadda yadda at the opening, works better than Quantum/Solace and is more ominous. What's more if I recall, Spectre came out a year before the last MI and now the next MI is out, so a) They have not wasted any time and b) They are knocking them out at the rate of Bonds of yore. Plus, this latest one follows on from the last film, so you get the sense of some future planning, unlike with Bonds which hey! get in a new script, new director, oh hello they've walked.

    I mean, with the gap he's had, Craig could have done lots of stuff, but we've had a stage performance and an extended cameo in that heist movie. He seemed busier before he was Bond, with stuff like Layer Cake and Enduring Love.

    For all that, I find the MI films of late entertaining but ersatz. There is a hollowness there, a lack of warmth. The most moving moment involved a French police woman.

    I could have watched Vanessa Kirby (the White Widow) get up to mischief for the full duration and have been just as entertained! I suppose she's a follow on from the Vanessa Redgrave character in the first film.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,739MI6 Agent
    Ocean's Eight.
    I do enjoy a good Heist movie, and Ocean's Eight delivers, all the usual twists we expect from a film like this, so
    no surprises, but great fun.
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  • IanFryerIanFryer Posts: 327MI6 Agent
    The Meg - not my choice, but we're on holiday and there's only that and Ant Man and The Wasp on at the local flea-pit. The former film is terrific fun with an especially enjoyable score that brings back memories of great old TV themes like Mission: Impossible and UFO.

    The Meg is rather less enjoyable - it's a big, dumb summer action movie, but the plot is terribly contrived, acting and dialogue second-rate and it seems to last forever. It's watchable, but nothing like as exciting or funny as it thinks it is. Jason Statham needs better material.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 19,982MI6 Agent
    The girl with the dragon tattoo (2011) directed by David Fincher

    It pains me to compare this movie to The Snowman. Both are movies based on popular Nordic crime novels directed by very good directors. Both are Hollywood productions shot in the country the books comes from, but this movie is everything The Snowman should have been.

    There is of course the big issues like letting the story make sense and creating tension. Dragon Tattoo did it well, The Snowman forgot to do it. There are also the smaller choices. Michael Fassbender didn't even brother to read the book. I'll bet Daniel Craig did. In the Snowman the made the odd choice of removing local colour. The police cars were marked "Police" and not "Politi", names and places were prounounced in English, not Norwegian, even the name of the central character. In Dragon Tattoo all names are pronounced in Swedish (and pretty well). Everyone speaks with a slight Swedish accent, the only exeption being Daniel Craig. Why? He seems to speak American English well enough.
    In spite of this I think Craig did a fine job. The movie is really well made and deserved to be more successfull.
  • Mr SnowMr Snow Station "J" JamaicaPosts: 1,736MI6 Agent
    It was pretty successful Number24. Unsure why it wasn't more so. Maybe because it was made only 2 years after the original?

    Regardless, I really enjoyed it and as you say Craig played the part of Blomkvist very well. Not once did I think of him as James Bond when watching the film. I did however enjoy the Swedish version more. I guess I knew how it ended when the American version came out. Still they were both an excellent watch and both Noomi Rapace and Rooney Mara were brilliant as Lisbeth Salander - my new favourite heroine. :)

    If you haven't seen it yet, 'The Girl Who Played with Fire' (the second in the trilogy) is also excellent. Once I finish reading 'The Girl Who Kicked the Hornets Nest' I'll watch the film and give a quick review. -{
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  • IanFryerIanFryer Posts: 327MI6 Agent
    OGG007 wrote:
    It was pretty successful Number24. Unsure why it wasn't more so. Maybe because it was made only 2 years after the original?

    -{

    I gather the film took a fairly respectable amount of money, but director David Fincher's working methods were so time-consuming and expensive that it was very expensive to make and didn't make enough money for a sequel to be thought worthwhile. There was talk of a follow-up for some time with a different director but it came to nothing.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,739MI6 Agent
    American Gangster :
    Brilliant Movie, with a fantastic cast, Denzel Washington , Russell Crowe , Chiwetel Ejiofor and
    Josh Brolin.
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  • Mr SnowMr Snow Station "J" JamaicaPosts: 1,736MI6 Agent
    IanFryer wrote:
    OGG007 wrote:
    It was pretty successful Number24. Unsure why it wasn't more so. Maybe because it was made only 2 years after the original?

    -{

    I gather the film took a fairly respectable amount of money, but director David Fincher's working methods were so time-consuming and expensive that it was very expensive to make and didn't make enough money for a sequel to be thought worthwhile. There was talk of a follow-up for some time with a different director but it came to nothing.

    There will be a follow up called 'The Girl in the Spider's Web' that will be released later this year in Sweden in late October and in the US early November. The film is directed by Fede Alvarez and Claire Foy takes on the role of Lisbeth Salander.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,739MI6 Agent
    Just had an epic evening watching all three Naked gun movies :))
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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 9,716MI6 Agent
    Did my ****-a-snoop reference in my MI review get flagged up by censors?!

    Edit: Apparently!

    Anyway, returning to that briefly, I have to say that Cruise's apparent willingness to do his own stunts counts a lot. The scene on a helicopter owes much to the pts of FYEO, the difference being you really believe Cruise is up there, struggling to get a hold, while Moore's thing is different. That said, and this is crucial, the Bond action scenes are relaxing and enjoyable, and less frenetic. You fear for the hero less, perhaps because you are meant to enjoy being him, being Bond! It's escapism. The only time I think we really fear for Bond in action is in near the beginning of CR, when he has to make that high jump from one building to another. Are there any others?
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • Mr SnowMr Snow Station "J" JamaicaPosts: 1,736MI6 Agent
    Did my ****-a-snoop reference in my MI review get flagged up by censors?!

    Edit: Apparently!

    Anyway, returning to that briefly, I have to say that Cruise's apparent willingness to do his own stunts counts a lot. The scene on a helicopter owes much to the pts of FYEO, the difference being you really believe Cruise is up there, struggling to get a hold, while Moore's thing is different. That said, and this is crucial, the Bond action scenes are relaxing and enjoyable, and less frenetic. You fear for the hero less, perhaps because you are meant to enjoy being him, being Bond! It's escapism. The only time I think we really fear for Bond in action is in near the beginning of CR, when he has to make that high jump from one building to another. Are there any others?
    The scene in Goldfinger when Bond is about to have his nuts split in two (as well as the rest of him) would be one. Even Connery was concerned; among many of his female admirers. :D
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  • IanFryerIanFryer Posts: 327MI6 Agent
    OGG007 wrote:
    IanFryer wrote:
    OGG007 wrote:
    It was pretty successful Number24. Unsure why it wasn't more so. Maybe because it was made only 2 years after the original?

    -{

    I gather the film took a fairly respectable amount of money, but director David Fincher's working methods were so time-consuming and expensive that it was very expensive to make and didn't make enough money for a sequel to be thought worthwhile. There was talk of a follow-up for some time with a different director but it came to nothing.

    There will be a follow up called 'The Girl in the Spider's Web' that will be released later this year in Sweden in late October and in the US early November. The film is directed by Fede Alvarez and Claire Foy takes on the role of Lisbeth Salander.

    Strange that they've skipped the rest of the books in the original sequence and gone to the David Lagercrantz continuation novels. I wonder if it's due to an issue with the film rights.
  • Mr SnowMr Snow Station "J" JamaicaPosts: 1,736MI6 Agent
    "Everyone knows rock n' roll attained perfection in 1974; It's a scientific fact". - Homer J Simpson
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 19,982MI6 Agent
    IanFryer wrote:
    OGG007 wrote:
    IanFryer wrote:

    I gather the film took a fairly respectable amount of money, but director David Fincher's working methods were so time-consuming and expensive that it was very expensive to make and didn't make enough money for a sequel to be thought worthwhile. There was talk of a follow-up for some time with a different director but it came to nothing.

    There will be a follow up called 'The Girl in the Spider's Web' that will be released later this year in Sweden in late October and in the US early November. The film is directed by Fede Alvarez and Claire Foy takes on the role of Lisbeth Salander.

    Strange that they've skipped the rest of the books in the original sequence and gone to the David Lagercrantz continuation novels. I wonder if it's due to an issue with the film rights.

    "The girl with the dragon tattoo" wasn't successfull enough for the rest of the trilogy to be made in English with Daniel Craig in the male lead. My guess is that the film company still has the rights for them, so someone else is filming the Lagerkraz novels. I might see "Spider's web" because Synnøve Macody Lund is in it B-)
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