Agree with Jet Set, I haven't like the song from the get go and the video's dark, gritty (yes that word again) is a turn off. Certainly doesn't look like an upbeat movie. In some of the trailer clips the color jumps off the screen and I thought that was good, but this is all dark and depressing. Bond movies, IMO, should be fun, this looks like a different animal. I know, I know, some of you folks want that, but I don't think the majority of the public does. But hey, I could be wrong.
But Barry, we have to remember that CR is not a typical Bond story. It was by far the most violent and darkest of all of the Bond novels, so this tone in the movie is completely appropriate.
This might not please a lot of viewers, but regardless of this, as a fan of the book, I would have been upset if they hadn't gone as far as they could have in giving the movie a dark tone and instead had just given it a typical Bond movie tone, as I was beginning to be a afraid that they would do.
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...CR is not a typical Bond story. It was by far the most violent and darkest of all of the Bond novels, so this tone in the movie is completely appropriate.
This might not please a lot of viewers, but regardless of this, as a fan of the book, I would have been upset if they hadn't gone as far as they could have in giving the movie a dark tone and had just given it a typical Bond movie tone, as I was beginning to be a afraid that they would do.
Agreed. I'm just glad they didn't just steal the title and insert a generic 'World In Peril' plot yet again.
Still, it looks as if they deliberately chose the darkest sequences of the film for inclusion in Cornell's music video. I think it comes off pretty well, all things considered.
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I think Barry has a point. CR is obviously a very dark novel of which a faithful adaption would have to be equally dark. However I think there should be balance. What made FRWL and OHMSS so great IMO as opposed to LTK is that FRWL and OHMSS were balanced by moments of light and, yes, even humour. In FRWL, for example, Bond uttered that immortal line, "Yes, she had her kicks" while in OHMSS there were several attempts at humour. Although not all the attempts may have worked, I think the playfulness made the tragedy even more stark. So, in regards to CR, all I ask is there be some humour. Yes, torture Bond, put him through hell, but would it be possible if the producers, at least in the first half, have a few light moments of fun which would actually accentuate everything that happens to Bond in the second half. The humour/light moments does not have to be along the lines of DAD but making the film completely serious and totally dark would IMO be a grave mistake.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
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edited November 2006
Fortunately, there is a fair share of humour---but it's more in a wry, sardonic, character-oriented vein, and not in the form of tossed-off one-liners.
One example is Bond's response to Vesper's 'perfectly-formed arse' line. Another is an Act 3 reference to his little finger... B-)
My advice to those fretting about a totally humourless Bond: Let not your heart be troubled. :007)
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
My advise to those fretting about a totally humourless Bond: Let not your heart be troubled. :007)
Thank you. My heart is now untroubled.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
I think Barry has a point. CR is obviously a very dark novel of which a faithful adaption would have to be equally dark. However I think there should be balance. What made FRWL and OHMSS so great IMO as opposed to LTK is that FRWL and OHMSS were balanced by moments of light and, yes, even humour. In FRWL, for example, Bond uttered that immortal line, "Yes, she had her kicks" while in OHMSS there were several attempts at humour. Although not all the attempts may have worked, I think the playfulness made the tragedy even more stark. So, in regards to CR, all I ask is there be some humour. Yes, torture Bond, put him through hell, but would it be possible if the producers, at least in the first half, have a few light moments of fun which would actually accentuate everything that happens to Bond in the second half. The humour/light moments does not have to be along the lines of DAD but making the film completely serious and totally dark would IMO be a grave mistake.
That's not the impression I am getting from Barry, and it's not the impression I've gotten from him when he has made similiar statements and judging by his preferences among the Bond films. (Listing GF, TWINE, and TB as his three favorites, and with 3 of 4 Brosnan films in his top-7) There have been some dark moments in these, but they have been overwhelming in favor of the Bond formula: the cars, the gadgets, the big explosions and action sequences, the sex, etc.. My point here is that CR is much, much, much darker, and a faithful adaptation in terms of the spirit of the novel doesn't allow for the tone of a typical Bond spectacle. I'm not taking anything away from these types of movies: they're great. But CR can't be this type of movie. If you want some light moments, fine, but they should be overlookable in the grand context of the greater plot and tone.
In terms of balance, I don't see how you can "balance" CR. Balance implies that you have some sort of "midpoint" between light and dark, and you can't have that in CR.
That's not the impression I am getting from Barry, and it's not the impression I've gotten from him when he has made similiar statements and judging by his preferences among the Bond films. (Listing GF, TWINE, and TB as his three favorites, and with 3 of 4 Brosnan films in his top-7) There have been some dark moments in these, but they have been overwhelming in favor of the Bond formula: the cars, the gadgets, the big explosions and action sequences, the sex, etc..
Well obviously I was expressing my own feelings. I only used Barry's last post as a starting off point.
My point here is that CR is much, much, much darker, and a faithful adaptation in terms of the spirit of the novel doesn't allow for the tone of a typical Bond spectacle. I'm not taking anything away from these types of movies: they're great. But CR can't be this type of movie. If you want some light moments, fine, but they should be overlookable in the grand context of the greater plot and tone.
I accept that CR is much darker than previous Bond films. I don't like that but I accept that. That doesn't mean however that there can't be light moments. FRWL, OHMSS and TWINE all had some. I'll give you an example of a light moment which I thought was terrific but was as un-DAD as one can get. In the PTS of TWINE Bond uttered, "If you can't trust a Swiss banker, then what's the world come to?" which was IMO very funny but wasn't an 'invisible car' type of moment. When I say light, I don't mean Bond bursting into song or something, I'm referring to moments in which the audience can have a chuckle. FRWL, your favourite Bond film, had several moments like that.
In terms of balance, I don't see how you can "balance" CR. Balance implies that you have some sort of "midpoint" between light and dark, and you can't have that in CR.
No, but Bond can't be tortured throughout the entire film. There has to some parts (perhaps only in the first half) in which he smiles and the audience is allowed to have a few laughs or merely chuckles. Plus, considering that he seemingly falls in love with Vesper, I would imagine that their dinner conversation isn't all doom and gloom.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
I'm sorry i have to interrupt, but i will ONLY talk about the video:
I saw it thanks to Youtube and NO THANKS to MTVLA, because they apparently don`t have any idea about Casino Royale (they've said that Goldfrapp was the chosen group and never said anything further)
Well, at least it`s not DAD, and Chirs Cornell doesn`t make a cameo where everybody kisses his (her) shoes... it tries to have some kind of story about how Chris Cornell became Chris Cornell following and being dissapointed by a lady, just like Bond. i enjoy the scenes but sadly it isn`t a memorably video... except the ending (WOW!)
About the song, I really prefer the myspace version rather the original (more Bondian to me, you know the trumpets and that stuff) it doesn`t look that good in the video because it`s just Cornell, maybe if in the middle appear some kind of orchestra you`ll pass it (or get it), but in the titles it will ROCK!!! (so irony)
The humour/light moments does not have to be along the lines of DAD but making the film completely serious and totally dark would IMO be a grave mistake.
Why point that out? Do you really think they wouldn't put any jokes in? Even LTK had jokes- as Daniel has said 'people think we're f*cking with it, but we're not f*cking with it'.
Sorry i'm so late to this discussion, but i've only just heard the theme song (Mars is lovely at this time of year! lol).
Personally I loved it, it really gave me a tingle up my spine and got me excited. It was just something a bit different i thought, a bit like when Live & Let Die was released.
A Bond theme to suit a new Bond, and at the same time not throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Also no big name egos involved which has to be a good thing after DAD.
Why point that out? Do you really think they wouldn't put any jokes in? Even LTK had jokes- as Daniel has said 'people think we're f*cking with it, but we're not f*cking with it'.
Why shouldn't I point it out? Perhaps I am worried that they wouldn't have any humour. After all, they got rid of practically everything else that I like. Plus, if it is so obvious to you, why respond to me? Why can't I write posts that may be obvious to you? This may shock you, but not all of my posts are written for you.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
Why point that out? Do you really think they wouldn't put any jokes in? Even LTK had jokes- as Daniel has said 'people think we're f*cking with it, but we're not f*cking with it'.
Why shouldn't I point it out? Perhaps I am worried that they wouldn't have any humour. After all, they got rid of practically everything else that I like.
Evrything else? That's odd it's full of everything I always enjoyed about Bond films. Were Moneypenny, Q and Brosnan the only reasons you watch Bond films?
And yeah; you can be worried it would have no humour, but warning them off it as if it's something they considered is a little melodramatic. They're not stupid.
Evrything else? That's odd it's full of everything I always enjoyed about Bond films.
Well not everything. I was obviously exaggerating. Surely you've exaggerated in the past on this site. However there are about a dozen things about CR which concern me. Going into TWINE there wasn't really anything that concerned me.
Were Moneypenny, Q and Brosnan the only reasons you watch Bond films?
No. But I also don't watch Bond because I enjoy seeing him get tortured. I actually didn't bring up Brosnan, Moneypenny and Q on this thread, so I don't know where you got that from.
And yeah; you can be worried it would have no humour, but warning them off it as if it's something they considered is a little melodramatic. They're not stupid.
I wasn't warning them off. I was expressing my view that to have no humour would be a terrible mistake. I stand by that.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
My brother downloaded the video; I walked away halfway thru it. Cornell's bits were laughable - somehow a burned out rocker's angst doesn't dovetail with a burnt out agent's plight; I really hate it when these "musicians" (and I use the word loosely) try to work themselves into the story. The song's arrangement was beyond crap.
As for the clips from the movie, they killed even my brother's lukewarm enthusiasm for CR. Between the black and white, the blood stained clothes and the endless shots of Craig trying to wash it all away I was left utterly despondent. I don't know if the film itself can possibly be as dark as these clips suggest, but it sure continues to look like a downer.
Why can't they have just called it Casino Royale and made a song round that. Why does it even have to be called "You Know My Name"? What relevance does that even have.
And its a bad song, very boring and blah. Just terrible.
Since my previous post became a point of discussion, I thought I would add a comment. Understand that my previous post was about the video which I thought was very dark and in my opinion not very uplifting. Which I believe could hurt the box office, because the majorinty of filmgoers are looking for a good time, they don't want to be depressed. However, I did point out that I thought some of the preview clips were more vibrant and enticing. Klaus and Dan both made some good points and I enjoyed reading their discussion. I do not like my Bond movies too goofy (MR, parts of all Moore's Bond and the second half of DAD), but I do want to enjoy the movie and leave the cinema smiling. Having read CR many times I realize this story is not upbeat. However, I hope they don't go too dark and make it a depressing affair, that I would not like. Since I haven't seen the movie or read the script, I do not know what to expect, so for now I will limit my concerns about being too dark to the video and wait to see what the film brings.
Were Moneypenny, Q and Brosnan the only reasons you watch Bond films?
No. But I also don't watch Bond because I enjoy seeing him get tortured. I actually didn't bring up Brosnan, Moneypenny and Q on this thread, so I don't know where you got that from.
Because they're the only things missing in this film from the last, that I can see.
Watched it again for the second time. I'm just as depressed as the first time I watched it. Cornell seems to want to be anywhere else but in this video. I thought I was having a bad day when I watched it the first time, so I said, let me give it another go just to be fair. Nothing! I get no buzz whatsoever either from the music or the clips. Seems to have been put together in a hurry. It generates no magic, no excitement, nothing to cheer about. If these are any indications of what the film will be like, looks like I will miss my first Bond premiere in 30 years.
Watched it again for the second time. I'm just as depressed as the first time I watched it. Cornell seems to want to be anywhere else but in this video. I thought I was having a bad day when I watched it the first time, so I said, let me give it another go just to be fair. Nothing! I get no buzz whatsoever either from the music or the clips. Seems to have been put together in a hurry. It generates no magic, no excitement, nothing to cheer about. If these are any indications of what the film will be like, looks like I will miss my first Bond premiere in 30 years.
My point exactly, I think the video does nothing to make someone see the movie. It just looks depressing and a complete downer. The trailers did a much better job of providing some upbeat energy. I can't believe anyone will see this video and say, "hey I can't wait to see that, it looks like fun".
'there are no plans at present to release You know My Name as a single'
Which means, as it's not on the soundtrack, there'll be no way of legally buying it in the UK! (Unless it's on a Cornell album, if there are such things)
You mean the ending with the chair? I actually thought that the whole scene was handled brilliantly, ending with one of the Bond series' alltime great moments; the killing of Electra.
Because they're the only things missing in this film from the last, that I can see.
My problem isn't simply about what's missing (although gadgets are missing as well). My problem is also about what the producers have added. Among the things added are the torture, the casting, the reboot and several other things which we have discussed previously.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
My problem is also about what the producers have added. Among the things added are the torture, the casting, the reboot and several other things which we have discussed previously.
Well, as we've just said- torture wasn't added: it was in the last two films. Quite prominently. Have you actually been watching these movies?
And 'casting' is always added to films; and if you're talking about Craig, then that's why I mentioned Brosnan being missing.
Well, I was planning to avoid Chris Cornell's 'You know My Name' until Casino Royale's release. However, I found myself reading through this thread late last night and became rather intrigued at the mixed reviews it was receiving. Then I came across the You Tube link that jetset provided and I couldn't resist it.
I liked the song and Cornell's vocals right from the get go, apart from the chorus and the ending which sounded like a racket. But the chorus grew on me the more I listened to it. The only part I don't like is the ending. For sure, it's not a Bond classic, but I do place it on a par with (if not ahead of) the likes of Lulu's The Man With The Golden Gun, Rita Coolidge's All Time High and Madonna's Die Another Day.
As for the video? I am not a fan of music video's......even those that feature clips from Bond films.
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The songs growing on me, definately gets better the more I hear it. "You Know My Name" got it's first UK radio play today - 11:20 AM on Radio 2, Ken Bruce loved it
Well, as we've just said- torture wasn't added: it was in the last two films. Quite prominently. Have you actually been watching these movies?
Of course I have watched the last two films. 8-) Do you always have to be sarcastic? I actually disliked the first half of DAD mainly due to Bond's being tortured. If I could remake DAD, I might possibly not have Bond even get captured. So my dislike of Bond being tortured isn't particularly new.
And 'casting' is always added to films; and if you're talking about Craig, then that's why I mentioned Brosnan being missing.
Except I would have loved for Owen to have been Bond. Or McGregor. Plus, it's not just the casting of Craig that annoys me. It's also the casting of Dench and Green.
Em, I don't view the Brosnan films as the standard for the cinematic Bond. IMO the standard was set by Connery in his first four films. I love Brosnan, and I would have loved for him to make another Bond film, but I have accepted long ago that he won't and most of my complaints regarding CR have little to do with him. My primary complaint is exactly what makes people like Loeff, Klaus, I expect u2 die, High Hopes, Blue and undoubtfully you so excited; The dark (and faithful) tone as well as Bond's being tortured, making mistakes, put through hell etc...
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
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My primary complaint is exactly what makes people like Loeff, Klaus, I expect u2 die, High Hopes, Blue and undoubtfully you so excited; The dark (and faithful) tone as well as Bond's being tortured, making mistakes, put through hell etc...
My primary regret is that the Bond character has gone so far afield, over the intervening years, that such things have apparently become anaethema to fandom at large---to me, such things are what made the character so endlessly engaging...
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My primary regret is that the Bond character has gone so far afield, over the intervening years, that such things have apparently become anaethema to fandom at large---to me, such things are what made the character so endlessly engaging...
I don't know about that. Whenever I am faced with a new Bondian situation, I always ask myself WWSD. That is, what would Sean do? Based on the first four Bond films, I can't imagine Bond doing some of the things that I have described. So in my case, if you want to blame someone, blame Connery, Young and Hamilton for making the first four films so good and free of the elements that I've described!
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
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edited November 2006
Interestingly, I always imagined Connery when I read CR (and the original novels) in the old days...and was grateful for the added (literary) depth which was never (apparently) possible, even in the Classic Bond Film Era...
But these aren't the Swinging Sixties any longer; we now have many other Supermen and Batmen (and X-Men, and Spidermen, etc) in many other franchises, to carry that 'Ultra-Larger Than Life' banner. It just seems, to me (and me alone!), that Fleming had this all figured out a long time ago---an extraordinary (yet not superhuman!) hero, who wasn't perfect, and yet survived...by strength of will, toughness and determination... :007)
I'd like to think that the times have finally caught up with Fleming's vision, and that we might now actually be treated to something more substantial.
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But Barry, we have to remember that CR is not a typical Bond story. It was by far the most violent and darkest of all of the Bond novels, so this tone in the movie is completely appropriate.
This might not please a lot of viewers, but regardless of this, as a fan of the book, I would have been upset if they hadn't gone as far as they could have in giving the movie a dark tone and instead had just given it a typical Bond movie tone, as I was beginning to be a afraid that they would do.
Agreed. I'm just glad they didn't just steal the title and insert a generic 'World In Peril' plot yet again.
Still, it looks as if they deliberately chose the darkest sequences of the film for inclusion in Cornell's music video. I think it comes off pretty well, all things considered.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
One example is Bond's response to Vesper's 'perfectly-formed arse' line. Another is an Act 3 reference to his little finger... B-)
My advice to those fretting about a totally humourless Bond: Let not your heart be troubled. :007)
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
That's not the impression I am getting from Barry, and it's not the impression I've gotten from him when he has made similiar statements and judging by his preferences among the Bond films. (Listing GF, TWINE, and TB as his three favorites, and with 3 of 4 Brosnan films in his top-7) There have been some dark moments in these, but they have been overwhelming in favor of the Bond formula: the cars, the gadgets, the big explosions and action sequences, the sex, etc.. My point here is that CR is much, much, much darker, and a faithful adaptation in terms of the spirit of the novel doesn't allow for the tone of a typical Bond spectacle. I'm not taking anything away from these types of movies: they're great. But CR can't be this type of movie. If you want some light moments, fine, but they should be overlookable in the grand context of the greater plot and tone.
In terms of balance, I don't see how you can "balance" CR. Balance implies that you have some sort of "midpoint" between light and dark, and you can't have that in CR.
I accept that CR is much darker than previous Bond films. I don't like that but I accept that. That doesn't mean however that there can't be light moments. FRWL, OHMSS and TWINE all had some. I'll give you an example of a light moment which I thought was terrific but was as un-DAD as one can get. In the PTS of TWINE Bond uttered, "If you can't trust a Swiss banker, then what's the world come to?" which was IMO very funny but wasn't an 'invisible car' type of moment. When I say light, I don't mean Bond bursting into song or something, I'm referring to moments in which the audience can have a chuckle. FRWL, your favourite Bond film, had several moments like that.
No, but Bond can't be tortured throughout the entire film. There has to some parts (perhaps only in the first half) in which he smiles and the audience is allowed to have a few laughs or merely chuckles. Plus, considering that he seemingly falls in love with Vesper, I would imagine that their dinner conversation isn't all doom and gloom.
I saw it thanks to Youtube and NO THANKS to MTVLA, because they apparently don`t have any idea about Casino Royale (they've said that Goldfrapp was the chosen group and never said anything further)
Well, at least it`s not DAD, and Chirs Cornell doesn`t make a cameo where everybody kisses his (her) shoes... it tries to have some kind of story about how Chris Cornell became Chris Cornell following and being dissapointed by a lady, just like Bond. i enjoy the scenes but sadly it isn`t a memorably video... except the ending (WOW!)
About the song, I really prefer the myspace version rather the original (more Bondian to me, you know the trumpets and that stuff) it doesn`t look that good in the video because it`s just Cornell, maybe if in the middle appear some kind of orchestra you`ll pass it (or get it), but in the titles it will ROCK!!! (so irony)
Why point that out? Do you really think they wouldn't put any jokes in? Even LTK had jokes- as Daniel has said 'people think we're f*cking with it, but we're not f*cking with it'.
Personally I loved it, it really gave me a tingle up my spine and got me excited. It was just something a bit different i thought, a bit like when Live & Let Die was released.
A Bond theme to suit a new Bond, and at the same time not throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Also no big name egos involved which has to be a good thing after DAD.
Evrything else? That's odd it's full of everything I always enjoyed about Bond films. Were Moneypenny, Q and Brosnan the only reasons you watch Bond films?
And yeah; you can be worried it would have no humour, but warning them off it as if it's something they considered is a little melodramatic. They're not stupid.
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No. But I also don't watch Bond because I enjoy seeing him get tortured. I actually didn't bring up Brosnan, Moneypenny and Q on this thread, so I don't know where you got that from.
I wasn't warning them off. I was expressing my view that to have no humour would be a terrible mistake. I stand by that.
As for the clips from the movie, they killed even my brother's lukewarm enthusiasm for CR. Between the black and white, the blood stained clothes and the endless shots of Craig trying to wash it all away I was left utterly despondent. I don't know if the film itself can possibly be as dark as these clips suggest, but it sure continues to look like a downer.
And its a bad song, very boring and blah. Just terrible.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/news/video/64000/bb/64074_16x9_bb.ram
'there are no plans at present to release You know My Name as a single'
Not even the torture?
Because they're the only things missing in this film from the last, that I can see.
My point exactly, I think the video does nothing to make someone see the movie. It just looks depressing and a complete downer. The trailers did a much better job of providing some upbeat energy. I can't believe anyone will see this video and say, "hey I can't wait to see that, it looks like fun".
Which means, as it's not on the soundtrack, there'll be no way of legally buying it in the UK! (Unless it's on a Cornell album, if there are such things)
My problem isn't simply about what's missing (although gadgets are missing as well). My problem is also about what the producers have added. Among the things added are the torture, the casting, the reboot and several other things which we have discussed previously.
Well, as we've just said- torture wasn't added: it was in the last two films. Quite prominently. Have you actually been watching these movies?
And 'casting' is always added to films; and if you're talking about Craig, then that's why I mentioned Brosnan being missing.
I liked the song and Cornell's vocals right from the get go, apart from the chorus and the ending which sounded like a racket. But the chorus grew on me the more I listened to it. The only part I don't like is the ending. For sure, it's not a Bond classic, but I do place it on a par with (if not ahead of) the likes of Lulu's The Man With The Golden Gun, Rita Coolidge's All Time High and Madonna's Die Another Day.
As for the video? I am not a fan of music video's......even those that feature clips from Bond films.
Except I would have loved for Owen to have been Bond. Or McGregor. Plus, it's not just the casting of Craig that annoys me. It's also the casting of Dench and Green.
Em, I don't view the Brosnan films as the standard for the cinematic Bond. IMO the standard was set by Connery in his first four films. I love Brosnan, and I would have loved for him to make another Bond film, but I have accepted long ago that he won't and most of my complaints regarding CR have little to do with him. My primary complaint is exactly what makes people like Loeff, Klaus, I expect u2 die, High Hopes, Blue and undoubtfully you so excited; The dark (and faithful) tone as well as Bond's being tortured, making mistakes, put through hell etc...
My primary regret is that the Bond character has gone so far afield, over the intervening years, that such things have apparently become anaethema to fandom at large---to me, such things are what made the character so endlessly engaging...
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
But these aren't the Swinging Sixties any longer; we now have many other Supermen and Batmen (and X-Men, and Spidermen, etc) in many other franchises, to carry that 'Ultra-Larger Than Life' banner. It just seems, to me (and me alone!), that Fleming had this all figured out a long time ago---an extraordinary (yet not superhuman!) hero, who wasn't perfect, and yet survived...by strength of will, toughness and determination... :007)
I'd like to think that the times have finally caught up with Fleming's vision, and that we might now actually be treated to something more substantial.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM