What do people say about CR to you?

heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
in Casino Royale - Bond 21 (2006)
What do people say about CR to you?

Most people that I have talked to about CR said that absolutly loved it.

All of them only had one complaint. Too Long.

What about you guys?
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  • lavabubblelavabubble Posts: 229MI6 Agent
    I have heard people say that they thought the poker scenes were too long, not the film itself. I personally didn't find it too long and as per some of the other folks on here, could have quite happily watched another hour!!!
  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    Everyone I've talked to loves it. One friend thought the ending dragged on, but he still thought it was really good.
  • highhopeshighhopes Posts: 1,358MI6 Agent
    The couple of people that I know who have seen it said they loved it. But most of the people I know haven't seen it. I've told everyone that the movie's great and their reaction is usually, "Oh really? They sound surprised, as if to say "We know what Bond films are like. Pretty corny. We doubt this one's any better." They just aren't terribly interested. Yet I know their tastes in films well enough that I know they'll love if they saw it. These are not movie buffs who necessarily read reviews or research the movies they see, so they wouldn't necessarily know that the movie has been well-received. Moreover, I haven't seen a single TV commercial for the film here in my area of northern California. All of which makes me think there is still a huge untapped audience out there waiting to fall in love with Bond all over again, as the saying goes.
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    edited January 2007
    The only people who I know that have seen CR are my brother, his girlfriend, my mother and two of my (female) cousins.

    My brother did't love CR. Although he saw it in India (in which most of the 'sex scenes' were cut out), he remarked to me that he didn't think it felt like a Bond film. Part of this was due to the lack of gadgets but also due to Bond's lack of sexism. He's not a big fan of it. I don't know what his girlfriend thinks.

    My mother also didn't love it and remarked that it felt like a TV Movie. Of my two cousins, one of whom loves some of the older Bonds such as FRWL and GF, neither loved it. I don't remember exactly what they said.

    It's interesting, because while I'm not a huge fan of CR, I liked it more than they did, yet there were elements that annoyed/infuriated me much more that it did them (me being a much Bond bigger Bond fan than them.)
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • Lady RoseLady Rose London,UKPosts: 2,667MI6 Agent
    On the whole the reaction from my friends has been pretty positive. There was a couple of 'it was ok ' remarks and only one 'didn't like it' ( big RM fan so no surprise really ).

    Quite the contrary to HH, most people I know have seen CR and it does seem to have grabbed quite a few that wouldn't normally bother with Bond. The big test will be if they go back for the next installment.
  • highhopeshighhopes Posts: 1,358MI6 Agent
    Lady Rose wrote:
    On the whole the reaction from my friends has been pretty positive. There was a couple of 'it was ok ' remarks and only one 'didn't like it' ( big RM fan so no surprise really ).

    Quite the contrary to HH, most people I know have seen CR and it does seem to have grabbed quite a few that wouldn't normally bother with Bond. The big test will be if they go back for the next installment.

    Absolutely. And I predict that this untapped U.S. audience that thinks it knows all about James Bond films will be out in force for Bond 22. They will have had time by then to see the DVD of CR and get a taste for the re-energized 007. I know they'll like it. I'm willing to bet the DVD will be No. 1 both in sales and in rentals here for a long, long time.
  • glidroseglidrose Posts: 138MI6 Agent
    I must have spoken to at least 10 different people now who have seen it, and they all absolutely loved it. I have yet to meet someone who doesn't like it.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,294Chief of Staff
    Everyone I've spoken to liked the film and liked DC as well, although more than one thought that he looked a little too, um, mature for a young Bond on his first 00 mission.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    edited January 2007
    The majority of people that I know who've seen it, thought it was a good picture. However I have run across a good amount of viewers I know who thought that it was fair to poor.

    They said that Craig's looks hurt the overall picture for them. Putting it mildly, they referred to his face as...uh... seasoned.
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  • jbfreakjbfreak Posts: 144MI6 Agent
    My wife and I loved it. Neither of us thought it was too long, and could have gone fore some more! My brother and sister both liked it, and although they are as big of fans as me, they thought it was one of the best Bond films.

    The only person I have heard say that they didn't like it was my friend. He said he like DC but the movie just didn't seem Bondian enough to him, and he wanted to see more of a traditional Bond.
  • Sir Hillary BraySir Hillary Bray College of ArmsPosts: 2,174MI6 Agent
    Most of my friends who have seen it haven't liked it because they feel "it's not a Bond film." They want the familiar -- gunbarrel, traditional PTS, Bond theme in evidence, lots of OTT one-liners, explosions galore, etc.

    Philistines. :D
    Hilly...you old devil!
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,294Chief of Staff
    Sir Hillary Bray wrote:
    Most of my friends who have seen it haven't liked it because they feel "it's not a Bond film." They want the familiar -- gunbarrel, traditional PTS, Bond theme in evidence, lots of OTT one-liners, explosions galore, etc.

    Philistines. :D

    Then I'm one, too. I'm all for changes of pace (if falling short of total admiration for the reboot concept) but sooner or later the familiar, trademarked elements have to creep in again to keep the Bond identity ( ;% ) distinct from his imitators, parodists and downright plagiarists- who've been around as long as the series has with only their names changing over time.
  • darenhatdarenhat The Old PuebloPosts: 2,029Quartermasters
    People ask me if I've seen the 'new Bond movie' but it always seems they haven't seen it yet. Seems like they're looking for opinions before they see it. ?:)
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,274MI6 Agent
    Mostly very good, being impressed with the gritty flavour and the fact that Bond now looks like a killer, and a ladykiller too. It's generally seen as a shot in the arm for the series. Some have come out and said they never much liked Brosnan at all.

    One said it was gripping, but a bit baffling for much of the first half, with things not being explained, but it got the thumbs up. Another walked out before the end (she had a train to catch) but wasn't too impressed. My sister loved Craig, she's a convert, but had real trouble with the film. She likes Spooks a lot, but here she couldn't figure out why the villain should get offed way before the end, then we're supposed to care about the other villains we don't know about at the end, there's no sense of vengeance. She also didn't get what Bond was twigging when he goes "Matthis..." in the restaurant. Myself, I overlooked these points at the time as I was sort of extrapolating from the novel...
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  • John DrakeJohn Drake On assignmentPosts: 2,564MI6 Agent
    Both CR and Daniel Craig were very popular. Especially with females. Ironic given the abuse Craig got over how he looks. One girl at work raved about him.
  • Moore Not LessMoore Not Less Posts: 1,095MI6 Agent
    What do people say about Casino Royale to you?

    What the hell are you doing watching that pile of ****. Get a life. :D

    But seriously folks. Very few people I know are Bond fans. My brother is and he really enjoyed Casino Royale, he's also a big Daniel Craig fan. My parents also enjoyed the film. My Father rated Craig the equal of Pierce Brosnan. My Mother compared Craig to Sean Connery in the manner he said those immortal words at the end of the film, but she was really much more interested in Vesper Lynd's Algerian love knot necklace. I also spoke briefly with a work colleague who had seen CR, he said he preferred DAD.....Well, someone has to. :D
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    Then I'm one, too. I'm all for changes of pace (if falling short of total admiration for the reboot concept) but sooner or later the familiar, trademarked elements have to creep in again to keep the Bond identity ( ;% ) distinct from his imitators, parodists and downright plagiarists- who've been around as long as the series has with only their names changing over time.
    I'm also a philistine. ;) I completely agree with you that without the familiar, trademarked elements, Bond is less distinct from other series.
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    Dan Same wrote:
    Barbel wrote:
    Then I'm one, too. I'm all for changes of pace (if falling short of total admiration for the reboot concept) but sooner or later the familiar, trademarked elements have to creep in again to keep the Bond identity ( ;% ) distinct from his imitators, parodists and downright plagiarists- who've been around as long as the series has with only their names changing over time.
    I'm also a philistine. ;) I completely agree with you that without the familiar, trademarked elements, Bond is less distinct from other series.



    *raises hand* B-)

    Yeah I'm a Philistine, too if that's the case. Although it was a good movie(can't take that credit away), I too miss the usual trappings that are part of the 007 experience...
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    -Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
  • glidroseglidrose Posts: 138MI6 Agent
    edited January 2007
    Dan Same wrote:
    Barbel wrote:
    Then I'm one, too. I'm all for changes of pace (if falling short of total admiration for the reboot concept) but sooner or later the familiar, trademarked elements have to creep in again to keep the Bond identity ( ;% ) distinct from his imitators, parodists and downright plagiarists- who've been around as long as the series has with only their names changing over time.
    I'm also a philistine. ;) I completely agree with you that without the familiar, trademarked elements, Bond is less distinct from other series.

    I think CR still had the familiar elements, even if the overall film was in a new direction.

    Exotic locations - check.
    Beautiful women - check.
    Evil villain - check.
    Large explosive ending - check.
    Fast car - check.
    Bond in tux - check.
    John Barry type soundtrack - check.
    Pre-credit sequence - check.

    So the familar trappings were still there, to keep the traditionalists happy. And I think come Bond 22, the suaveness that wasn't evident in Craig's performance will be evident in the next one. This whole `rough diamond' behaviour was done deliberately by the scriptwriters.
  • s96024s96024 Posts: 1,519MI6 Agent
    Nobody I have spoken to have had a bad word to say. Even non bond fans who maybe would not have even seen the film, until the dvd release. Have gone to see it, some even going to watch more than once.
  • highhopeshighhopes Posts: 1,358MI6 Agent
    RogueAgent wrote:
    Dan Same wrote:
    Barbel wrote:
    Then I'm one, too. I'm all for changes of pace (if falling short of total admiration for the reboot concept) but sooner or later the familiar, trademarked elements have to creep in again to keep the Bond identity ( ;% ) distinct from his imitators, parodists and downright plagiarists- who've been around as long as the series has with only their names changing over time.
    I'm also a philistine. ;) I completely agree with you that without the familiar, trademarked elements, Bond is less distinct from other series.



    *raises hand* B-)

    Yeah I'm a Philistine, too if that's the case. Although it was a good movie(can't take that credit away), I too miss the usual trappings that are part of the 007 experience...

    Dear Phil(s): ;)
    As far as I'm concerned, all the familiar elements were present and accounted for: the exotic locations, the sophistication of the characters, the clothes, the cars, the shaken-not-stirred martini, the girls, the gadgets, the possible-but-highly-unlikely plot, the PTS, the stylized opening credits, "My name is Bond ... James Bond," and yes, even the almighty gunbarrel, etc ... just not blown up to caricature proportions. The only things really missing IMO were the Moneypenney and Q scenes. Now granted, those were often the most memorable scenes in the Bond films of the last 30 years, but I think CR managed to muddle through without them. :)) And if it's a good movie, isn't that enough in the final analysis?
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    edited January 2007
    highhopes wrote:
    And if it's a good movie, isn't that enough in the final analysis?


    Apparently not seeing that we have 800 different threads on how this particular film is disected from the color of Craig's speedos to whether or not Eva Green has corns on her feet :s ; otherwise CR would be just one big thread with everyone agreeing with everything about it.

    Don't get me wrong; I did enjoy this movie quite abit, I think that Craig did a fine job at the helm (great actor) but there were things in it that you may have found satisfying but I didn't. It's what makes for healthy conversation- differences of opinion. ;)

    I'm hoping that the "traditional" gunbarrel returns, Moneypenny in some form making a comeback and Q as well. Those are things I hold dear; many others here may care less...

    ...as far as I'm concerned of course... :D

    -1/3 of the Phil(s)- :p
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    Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
    -Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
  • highhopeshighhopes Posts: 1,358MI6 Agent
    RogueAgent wrote:
    highhopes wrote:
    And if it's a good movie, isn't that enough in the final analysis?


    Apparently not seeing that we have 800 different threads on how this particular film is disected from the color of Craig's speedos to whether or not Eva Green has corns on her feet :s ; otherwise CR would be just one big thread with everyone agreeing with everything about it.

    Understood. In fact, I've made that very same point several times, which is why I assumed it would be OK to say that, in my humble view, most of the standard Bond elements are already there. (The last line was merely a rhetorical flourish in reaction to your saying that you enjoyed the movie).

    I must have missed the thread on Eva's corns, but I may just offer an opinion on that, too :))
  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    I could've sworn it was you, RA, who brought up Eva's feet in the first place. Awhile back, I believe.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    Nightshooter wrote:
    I could've sworn it was you, RA, who brought up Eva's feet in the first place. Awhile back, I believe.


    :)) No, Night. I'm afraid you've got me mistaken with someone else.

    I'll take responsibility for JOKER Eva but that's it. :))
    Mrs. Man Face: "You wouldn't hit a lady? Would you?"

    Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
    -Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    Perhaps you commented on her legs then? Hmm...
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    Nightshooter wrote:
    Perhaps you commented on her legs then? Hmm...


    Well in that case...yes. She has chicken legs IMO. Olive Oyl straight- no curves whatsoever... :D
    Mrs. Man Face: "You wouldn't hit a lady? Would you?"

    Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
    -Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
  • Smoke_13Smoke_13 Kitchener Ont CanadaPosts: 285MI6 Agent
    Everyone I ever talked to about CR has always said the same thing to me, "Do you really think that tie matches that jacket?"

    But once I changed my tie and jacket, the other people I have spoken to were calling CR their favorite Bond in a long, long, time.

    One friend said he loved the fact that there wasnt any gadgets in the movie.

    PS- There were some comments in this post re:the length of the movie possibly being too long. I was not only surprised when the film ended I was surprised at the way the film ended too. Not to say I didnt like the ending, I liked it very much but I did have a real feeling of, "Aw, it's over."
  • highhopeshighhopes Posts: 1,358MI6 Agent
    RogueAgent wrote:
    Nightshooter wrote:
    Perhaps you commented on her legs then? Hmm...


    Well in that case...yes. She has chicken legs IMO. Olive Oyl straight- no curves whatsoever... :D

    I do remember someone saying she had dirty feet or something. I forgot to check last time I saw the movie. :))

    But this just in: A guy at work just told me moments ago he saw CR and loved it. Saw it twice and plans to get the DVD. Craig is the best actor to play Bond since Connery two, in his honest opinion, and made the others look like "lightweights."
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,294Chief of Staff
    Smoke_13 wrote:
    There were some comments in this post re:the length of the movie possibly being too long. I was not only surprised when the film ended I was surprised at the way the film ended too. Not to say I didnt like the ending, I liked it very much but I did have a real feeling of, "Aw, it's over."

    It's long, certainly, but I don't think I'm the only one hoping that the DVD is even longer (Peter Jackson to direct Bond 22, anyone? :)) ).
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