Watched it again

Really tried to figure out what makes it so bad for me. I have to say it's the editing (as has been mentioned before). The movie has it's moments where its nice to watch, but then BAM...........when there's an action sequence, the amount of different shots/angles becomes nauseating. I especially noticed this during the boat chase, opera, and plane dogfight. When I first saw it in the theatre, my favorite part was the knife fight, and on watching it again with the editing in mind, there were not too many different shots/angles compared to the other action scenes.
I really didn't like the way the editing tried to be "artsy" by switching back and forth between the opera death scene and the foot chase....I kept flashing back to the organic scenes in MR.
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  • Miss HavelockMiss Havelock Travelling. Again.Posts: 17MI6 Agent
    I really didn't like the way the editing tried to be "artsy"

    Keyword: Like.

    That may be the reason why, no matter how many times you watch QoS, you won't think of it any better.

    Some "like" the editing, some just don't.

    I, myself, love the editing. It came along nicely with the title- when you are looking for a quantum of solace, it's never done in a quiet, controlled way. It's furious and desperate, fast and wild. And the whole process is often very nauseating ;)

    Trust me there :(
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  • bluemanblueman PDXPosts: 1,667MI6 Agent
    I'm with Miss Havelock on this one, really a genius film in that sense.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,697MI6 Agent
    It's worth watching again, Just to be sure. http://youtu.be/xlFQibOWFPo QOS in Full. :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • GaddGeneGaddGaddGeneGadd Posts: 187MI6 Agent
    What bugged me the most about QOS is that I had to watch hitman to find out what a frigging knock out Olga really was. I should NOT have to watch a non Bond film to find out how stunning a Bond girl really is. She's a Bond girl for heavens sake. QOS did have it's moments though. I thought the whole Tosca scene in Austria was FANTASTIC. But alas one incredible scene does not a movie make b)b)b)
  • Mr BeechMr Beech Florida, USAPosts: 1,748MI6 Agent
    I thought some of the chaos in editing was done to show Bond's emotional chaos...

    Personally, Casino Royale (2006) is my overall favorite movie both in the Bond franchise and beyond. Quantum of Solace did fall short of that film, but I would say if Casino Royale is a 9.5/10, I would give QoS an 8/10. It borders on average dullness, but it makes it into my 'good' range and succeeds as a Bond Film to me. It has just enough style, moments, and plot justifications to make it fit for my tastes.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,697MI6 Agent
    Found this today, for all those who say QOS was the third act of CR here's what it might of looked like as One Film.
    :))

    http://youtu.be/uNXHBTyxPO8
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • LexiLexi LondonPosts: 2,973MI6 Agent
    Well, that vid is making me want to watch QoS - might just have to put it in the DVD player later....

    However, I have to say.... if QoS was supposed to be continued straight from CR - then why the difference in the suit? I can't believe they would overlook something so obvious.... looks to me like the continuity editor needs firing, and I will happily step in the role.... ;)
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  • thesecretagentthesecretagent CornwallPosts: 2,151MI6 Agent
    That's all well and good. But when did he have time to take off the waistcoat, unscrew the silencer from his UMP 9mm and fold the shoulder stock down - then swap his P99 for his Walther PPK? Oh, and age and lose weight noticably? :))
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,697MI6 Agent
    "Oh, do come along TSA", This is Bond we're talking about he can do Anything. :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • GaddGeneGaddGaddGeneGadd Posts: 187MI6 Agent
    Yeah TSA you have to suspend reality a little with Bond. He has been between 37- 49 years old for almost 60 years now :)):)):)):))
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,697MI6 Agent
    I know if Mr White had tried to kill my Girlfriend, where I'd of put the silencer. I guessing Bond shoved it where the sun don't shine ( Wrecked em, Damn near killed em, That's why Mr White has a Pained look when Bond slams him down on the chair ) Then threw him in the Back of the Aston. finding himself all sweaty from this he had a quick shower and changed in to the T Ford suit. Because of all his manual labour he appeared to of lost weight and had also appeared to of aged because of all he had learnt about life in CR. Like most of us he'd lost the p99 down the back of the sofa somewhere so had to go back to his old ppk. Finally he used the sholder stock to make a warming broth for the journey.
    I think this explains everthing :))
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  • thesecretagentthesecretagent CornwallPosts: 2,151MI6 Agent
    Ah, it's certainly clearer now.
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,374MI6 Agent
    it was right in front of us all the time! I knew it and would like to thank TP to explain it again to anyone who was not as smart as me ;)
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • superdaddysuperdaddy englandPosts: 865MI6 Agent
    I know if Mr White had tried to kill my Girlfriend, where I'd of put the silencer. I guessing Bond shoved it where the sun don't shine ( Wrecked em, Damn near killed em, That's why Mr White has a Pained look when Bond slams him down on the chair ) Then threw him in the Back of the Aston. finding himself all sweaty from this he had a quick shower and changed in to the T Ford suit. Because of all his manual labour he appeared to of lost weight and had also appeared to of aged because of all he had learnt about life in CR. Like most of us he'd lost the p99 down the back of the sofa somewhere so had to go back to his old ppk. Finally he used the sholder stock to make a warming broth for the journey.
    I think this explains everthing :))
    All very well but they never informed us of what flavour broth he made.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,697MI6 Agent
    Well superdaddy. knowing your deep love of Craig, might I suggest Ham? :v
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • superdaddysuperdaddy englandPosts: 865MI6 Agent
    Well superdaddy. knowing your deep love of Craig, might I suggest Ham? :v
    Deep love indeed,Iwould die for him or at least thats what I wanted to do while watching both his gay Jack Bauer impressions.
    CR seemed like 24 hours long.
  • ke02ewwke02eww USPosts: 2,064MI6 Agent
    superdaddy wrote:
    Well superdaddy. knowing your deep love of Craig, might I suggest Ham? :v
    Deep love indeed,Iwould die for him or at least thats what I wanted to do while watching both his gay Jack Bauer impressions.
    CR seemed like 24 hours long.

    Gay jack Bauer?....

    Why do I have a sense of de ja vu?....

    Which scene did u think of when you came up with this comment?
  • superdaddysuperdaddy englandPosts: 865MI6 Agent
    ke02eww wrote:
    superdaddy wrote:
    Well superdaddy. knowing your deep love of Craig, might I suggest Ham? :v
    Deep love indeed,Iwould die for him or at least thats what I wanted to do while watching both his gay Jack Bauer impressions.
    CR seemed like 24 hours long.

    Gay jack Bauer?....

    Why do I have a sense of de ja vu?....

    Which scene did u think of when you came up with this comment?
    His whole preformances in both movies to be honest but hey thats just my me and if it offends you I apologise and I promise not to be rude or personnel about Mr Craig on this site again.
  • ke02ewwke02eww USPosts: 2,064MI6 Agent
    superdaddy wrote:
    ke02eww wrote:
    superdaddy wrote:
    Deep love indeed,Iwould die for him or at least thats what I wanted to do while watching both his gay Jack Bauer impressions.
    CR seemed like 24 hours long.

    Gay jack Bauer?....

    Why do I have a sense of de ja vu?....

    Which scene did u think of when you came up with this comment?
    His whole preformances in both movies to be honest but hey thats just my me and if it offends you I apologise and I promise not to be rude or personnel about Mr Craig on this site again.

    Hey no offense taken - I'm not like that :)

    You are entitled to your opinion, though as they say, opinions are like a-holes, everyone's got one!

    Actually I was asking genuinely- I can't see it myself, but that doesn make it untrue or plausible.

    Seriously which scene do you think fits that viewpoint ? On either film?
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,697MI6 Agent
    I think the scene where Jack goes to a local Gay bar and Picks up a Big Bear of a Guy and then go back to his place ...............
    But then, come to think of it, I might be mixing it up with Torchwood, :D there was certainly some kind of wood involved, ............................................................ In the title. :))
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  • superdaddysuperdaddy englandPosts: 865MI6 Agent
    The main one that springs to mind without having to watch it again is when he is watching Vesper hand over the money to the baddies and is seen so the nasties threaten to cut old V's throat and DC says oh allow me.
    It's the whole gay, actually perhaps gay is the wrong word, camp would be better as there are some pretty tough gay men out there.
    He comes across to me as a very camp man trying not to be camp and trying to be a toughaction guy hence why I used Jack Baur as an example of who he is trying to be.
    Oh and how can I forget the blue trunks coming out of the sea scene,camper than a row of tents.
  • zaphodzaphod Posts: 1,183MI6 Agent
    superdaddy wrote:
    The main one that springs to mind without having to watch it again is when he is watching Vesper hand over the money to the baddies and is seen so the nasties threaten to cut old V's throat and DC says oh allow me.
    It's the whole gay, actually perhaps gay is the wrong word, camp would be better as there are some pretty tough gay men out there.
    He comes across to me as a very camp man trying not to be camp and trying to be a toughaction guy hence why I used Jack Baur as an example of who he is trying to be.
    Oh and how can I forget the blue trunks coming out of the sea scene,camper than a row of tents.

    Almost as camp as 'Big Tam's onesie in TB
  • zaphodzaphod Posts: 1,183MI6 Agent
    zaphod wrote:
    superdaddy wrote:
    The main one that springs to mind without having to watch it again is when he is watching Vesper hand over the money to the baddies and is seen so the nasties threaten to cut old V's throat and DC says oh allow me.
    It's the whole gay, actually perhaps gay is the wrong word, camp would be better as there are some pretty tough gay men out there.
    He comes across to me as a very camp man trying not to be camp and trying to be a toughaction guy hence why I used Jack Baur as an example of who he is trying to be.
    Oh and how can I forget the blue trunks coming out of the sea scene,camper than a row of tents.

    Almost as camp as 'Big Tam's onesie in TB


    Oops....meant GF of course.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,697MI6 Agent
    Ah yes the forerunner of the "Mankini", It takes a Real Man to wear one. :))
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  • ke02ewwke02eww USPosts: 2,064MI6 Agent
    Ah clear now....

    Moores the point, if were actually talking camp why no rogering? :o
  • superdaddysuperdaddy englandPosts: 865MI6 Agent
    I will be the first to admit there is a lot of campness in RM;s Bond but that was those times carry on films ,double meanings,cheeky winks ect and campness is great imo.
    David Hyde Price as Niles Crane in Frasier is to me probaly the best character ever to appear on tvbut what Iam trying to say and perhaps not coming across to well is that CR and QOS and DC are supposed to be tough,dark ,gritty and how Fleming intended Bond to be[yeah right] and imo all that comes across to me is a pouting,camp actor trying to act tough.
    With Rogers Bond it is kinda like The Scarlet Pimpernail, a foppish cover but underneath a tough guy.
  • LexiLexi LondonPosts: 2,973MI6 Agent
    superdaddy wrote:
    I will be the first to admit there is a lot of campness in RM;s Bond but that was those times carry on films ,double meanings,cheeky winks ect and campness is great imo.
    David Hyde Price as Niles Crane in Frasier is to me probaly the best character ever to appear on tvbut what Iam trying to say and perhaps not coming across to well is that CR and QOS and DC are supposed to be tough,dark ,gritty and how Fleming intended Bond to be[yeah right] and imo all that comes across to me is a pouting,camp actor trying to act tough.
    With Rogers Bond it is kinda like The Scarlet Pimpernail, a foppish cover but underneath a tough guy.

    Oh, I feel the leash straining.... and my bark is getting louder.... must resist... must resist. :))

    Your opinion. Your view on Craig..... Hope you have all the other Bond movies on DVD - caus it's going to be a long 4 years for you :))
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  • superdaddysuperdaddy englandPosts: 865MI6 Agent
    Trust me the last 5 have seemed like 10.
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 9,064MI6 Agent
    The new 007 Magazine (Fan Club) has a lengthy piece on QoS, the author also in some confusion as to whether Mathis is a traitor or not. He suggests the next film could be a remake of OHMSS, only taking place some years down the line with Quantum replacing Spectre but Blofeld still the head, leading to the YOLT follow on and so on.

    It's a hatchet job, most of it reserved for Marc Forster. Londoners can read it in the movie bookshop on St Martin's Lane, opposite Stringfellows.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

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  • zaphodzaphod Posts: 1,183MI6 Agent
    The new 007 Magazine (Fan Club) has a lengthy piece on QoS, the author also in some confusion as to whether Mathis is a traitor or not. He suggests the next film could be a remake of OHMSS, only taking place some years down the line with Quantum replacing Spectre but Blofeld still the head, leading to the YOLT follow on and so on.

    It's a hatchet job, most of it reserved for Marc Forster. Londoners can read it in the movie bookshop on St Martin's Lane, opposite Stringfellows.

    Really really hope the stuff about 23 is way off beam.
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