Weapons used in the James Bond movies.

BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 SwitzerlandPosts: 870MI6 Agent
Discuss your favourite weapons used in the films.

In Quantum Of Solace Bond uses a SIG P226.

M's bodyguard uses a SIG P226, which he then kills two of M's men with and attempts to kill her.
Later Bond steals a SIG and places it behind his back. He uses it during the firefight at Greene Hotel and with it kills many of General Medrano's and Greene's men, including Carlos and Greene's Driver. When he gets attacked with the axe by Greene, he loses the gun.

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Type: Pistol Weight: 964 g (34 oz) (with magazine)
Length: 196 mm (7.7 inch)
Barrel Length: 112 mm (4.4 inch)
Capacity: 10, 15, 17, 18, or 20
Fire Modes: Semi-Auto

It is not the exact same model I use, I got various SIG guns.

My favourite though is the one that accompanies me since many years and is one of the most reliable assault rifles ever created. Swiss manufacturer SIG is equipping the army with its guns.
I can take the SIG550 home with me as the Swiss Army is a milita.

The SIG 550.
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Nothing feels safer than sleeping with one under the pillow :P or two....or three....
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Shooting range is one of my favourite places in the world
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Generally I find the use of assault rifles and handguns in Quantum Of Solace to be amongst the best gun action in all of the Bond films.
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  • Dirty PunkerDirty Punker ...Your Eyes Only, darling."Posts: 2,586MI6 Agent
    edited June 2017
    I always thought that the SIG Bond had in SPECTRE (the train scene one) was a souvenir from Quantum Of Solace. It has also been mentioned somewhere on this forum that the P210 used in QoS was nothing more than a standard P210 but with coin grips to look like the anniversary edition.
    EDIT: I saw the SPECTRE page on iMFDB and I was wrong, it was a P226R. That's embarrassing but that may have been the intention in the film.
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  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 SwitzerlandPosts: 870MI6 Agent
    I always thought that the SIG Bond had in SPECTRE (the train scene one) was a souvenir from Quantum Of Solace. It has also been mentioned somewhere on this forum that the P210 used in QoS was nothing more than a standard P210 but with coin grips to look like the anniversary edition.
    EDIT: I saw the SPECTRE page on iMFDB and I was wrong, it was a P226R. That's embarrassing but that may have been the intention in the film.


    It's the P226R, correct. As shown in these pics.

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  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 SwitzerlandPosts: 870MI6 Agent
    Speaking of SPECTRE...


    The use of weapons in SPECTRE is fantastic. I like Daniel Craig a lot for how he handles the various weapons very well.

    While I like handguns I have always preferred assault rifles.

    The assault rifle he uses in SPECTRE is this one:
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    Bond takes a CSA Sa vz. 58 Compact off a guard at the secret SPECTRE desert base. One is also seen at the safehouse in Tangiers.

    As for reality of shoot outs in films, it can be debated what „looks real“ and what not.
    Shooting at moving targets is definitely much more difficult than it is often depicted in films.

    And obviously the main protagonist in a shoot out will not get killed or badly injured. Shot in the arm, leg or shoulder at most. Because it’s a film. Self-explanatory really.

    The SPECTRE escape scene from Oberhauser’s desert lair:

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    Summary:
    The whole shoot out happens within 40 seconds. It's 14 guards of which the first is knocked unconscious by the opening door. Two of the five guards on the side of the building are shot by Bond. Three seem to remain but they are obviously at least rendered unconscious by the explosion that follows.
    There are at first two guards and then another three guards on the other side in front of the stairs, all five get shot by Bond.
    The two on the stairs get shot and the one on top on the platform gets shot as well.


    Bond escapes the torture room. After he opens the door in the hallway to flee outside he bumps the door into a guard that loses the rifle. Bond picks it up and immediately shoots at two guards that are standing nearby close to the gate that leads to the stairs to the helicopter platform. Both can be easily killed by Bond which seems realistic.

    Bond takes Swann by her hand and moves away from the building. You can see three guards behind them, on the left side of the building, they are moving towards them, if not fast. They obviously only see Bond and Swann now and begin to react. They are not very close, but not very far too.
    Bond looks back, sees them and begins to shoot the rifle, with one hand.
    One guard goes down. The other two stand. Seems ok to me.
    And now you see two other guards on the right side of the building moving.

    Bond tells Swann to hide and moves himself into a save corner at another part of the building construction, where he can hide behind a wall.

    That takes him maybe three seconds in all. The remaining guards clearly take shots but the bullets seem to hit the ground behind Bond. Back to the shooting range fellas for some more training I'd say.
    The two guards on the right take shots and hit the wall, Bond is then hiding behind. At least those two guards seem to be able to aim properly if a tad late.

    The two guards keep shooting (which I would do too). Bond comes out from the hiding takes a clear shot to one of those guards and hits. He fires again, twice, which doesn't seem to hit anyone and goes back into hiding. That takes three seconds tops.
    Again you can ask what are the two guards on the left side of the building (hallway) doing? Shoot at clay pigeons?

    Bond takes a long look (1 1/2 second) at Swann, eye contact. I like that moment very much, because Bond seems to know it could end badly for them. Bond seems very focussed in all of this by the way. Bravo, especially after being drilled into the head ;)

    Comes out from hiding, aims and shoots at the pressure pump (or whatever it is) which then explodes (huge fireball). You can see the remaining two guards on the left side of the building again and they still seem to stand at the approximately same spot as they did at the beginning. Not only bad shots, but lazy too, sheesh.

    After the big explosion another guard appears, this time from the opposite side of the building (stairs to the helicopter platform). He is quite close.

    He starts to shoot at Bond and Swann but hits the wall above their heads. As he is running and probably still shocked by the explosion it's ok-ish.
    It takes Bond a split second to hit him, one handed as he holds Swann with his other hand. Ok, that guard really presents himself to be shot at.

    At the same time another two appear on a three wheeler and another appears on the stairs coming down. Bond immediately starts shooting. Both on the vehicle go down.
    Now you see it's two other guards coming down the stairs. They are not very close, so rather difficult to shoot.
    Climbing down stairs and shooting at moving targets is certainly a challenge for those two guards.

    Bond is moving, reloading and shooting again. Another guard can be seen at the top on the helicopter platform. Very far away.
    Bond takes one shot, then another. Both are hits, and the guards on the stairs are down, only after they themselves have at least taken one shot each at Bond but missed, obviously.

    The guard on top, on the platform seems to aim, takes his time (which is needed at that distance) and I think he shoots once, but Bond is a truly gifted sharpshooter. One shot, in the head and that guard waves goodbye.

    As I have never been tortured like Bond and then had to flee from 13 moving guards that take shots at me from behind and from the front, with a hot babe at my side, I wouldn't dare judging Bond for his performance.
    But even so, he is doing great here and it's expected, he is a 00 agent after all ;)

    Truly one of the amazing moments in the franchise.
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  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 SwitzerlandPosts: 870MI6 Agent
    I have specialised as a scout sniper within my job as para-scout in Swiss Special Forces. So naturally I'm always excited when Bond uses a sniper rifle.

    Two of my favourite sequences in the Bond:

    THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS

    Timothy Dalton uses a Walther WA 2000 sniper rifle given to him by Saunders to fire at the KGB sniper that turns out to be cellist Kara.

    One of the most beautiful weapons, an absolute favourite of mine.
    Type: Sniper Rifle / Caliber: .300 Winchester Magnum, .308 Winchester, 7.5x55mm Swiss
    Weight: 6.95 kg, 15.9 lbs / Length: 90,5 cm, 35.62 in / Barrel length: 65 cm, 25.59 in
    Capacity: 6-round detachable box / Fire Modes: Semi-Auto
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    Bond inspects the WA 2000
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    Bond on his way to the window
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    Close up, Bond's finger on the trigger
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    FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE

    Sean Connery uses an Armalite AR-7 survival rifle with a custom suppressor and infra-red scope, issued to him by Q. Together with Kerim Bey, Bond wants to assassinate Krilencu. Eventually Kerim Bey does the shooting.

    Q reports the rifle to be .25 caliber, which is incorrect. It actually fires a .22 Long Rifle cartridge.

    The Armalite AR-7 is a semiautomatic .22 LR takedown rifle originally developed from the AR-5 as a lightweight survival rifle.
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    Bond assembling the rifle
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    This is my sniper rifle since 2005:
    8,6 mm SSGw 04 (TRG 42)

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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 17,920MI6 Agent
    The TRG 42 is made in Finland by Sako, right? I know the Norwegian Army tested that rifle when they recently chose their long range sniper rifle. They went for the American Barrett MRAD instead.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 SwitzerlandPosts: 870MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    The TRG 42 is made in Finland by Sako, right? I know the Norwegian Army tested that rifle when they recently chose their long range sniper rifle. They went for the American Barrett MRAD instead.

    Absolutely correct, it's Finnish arms manufacturer SAKO.

    It's only used by Swiss Army Special Forces.
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 17,920MI6 Agent
    The conscript special forces unit in Norway (HJK) has no sniper capability. They are specialized LRRP troops, planned to be used further behind enemy lines than the entire length of Switzerland. Recon makes much more sense than sniping then.

    During the cold war our Home Guard soldiers kept their guns at home. My neighbour had a HK AG3 (Norwegian made G3). After the fall of the Soviet Union the guns are kept in military bases. It was feared the guns might get stolen from Home Guard soldiers by criminals or even be used by mentale unstable HG soldiers against their families etc.
    Is this a concern in Switzerland too?
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 SwitzerlandPosts: 870MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    The conscript special forces unit in Norway (HJK) has no sniper capability. They are specialized LRRP troops, planned to be used further behind enemy lines than the entire length of Switzerland. Recon makes much more sense than sniping then.

    During the cold war our Home Guard soldiers kept their guns at home. My neighbour had a HK AG3 (Norwegian made G3). After the fall of the Soviet Union the guns are kept in military bases. It was feared the guns might get stolen from Home Guard soldiers by criminals or even be used by mentale unstable HG soldiers against their families etc.
    Is this a concern in Switzerland too?

    As a militia active and on reserve soldiers/officers have their army weapon(s) at home when not serving or not staying at a base.
    After retiring we can keep the assault rifle for instance.

    Last year the bloody EU changed the gun law and because we are unfortunately a member of the Schengen club, this meant we can't take the army weapons home anymore.
    But of course our government dealt with that and we can still keep the weapons. It's possible to voluntarily give it up to the army but it's hardly done.

    As for concerns. The only thing of note is that several suicides every year are done with the army assault weapon we have at home.
    As for gun violence. Practically non-existence in Switzerland, except for some incidents every year with immigrants that have family feuds or something like that.
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 17,920MI6 Agent
    So you get to keep the guns after retiring? I've never heard of this before, in any country. It interests me that Switzerland has such a high lever of military readiness, since one might think it needs it less than most European countries. Has to do with traditions, culture and how important independence and neutrality is in Switzerland.

    I started a thread about very unusual weapons that could be used in future Bond movies. You should check it out.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 SwitzerlandPosts: 870MI6 Agent
    In fact the EU made a passage in the new gun law that if a tradition is older than 50 years (which it is in Switzerland) there will be an exception. So we still can keep the assault rifle.

    Just one example out of many why I am more than anything very, very, very happy we are not in the EU.

    The army is a part of our tradition, culture and daily life. There were many army reforms during the last several decades. But the Swiss want the army as a militia for the future as well, they made that clear at the voting box several times.

    Now it is discussed to make the army mandatory for women even! Or at least make the first day (recruitment day) mandatory, so more women will voluntarily serve. Every year the number rises of the female army force.
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  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 SwitzerlandPosts: 870MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    So you get to keep the guns after retiring? I've never heard of this before, in any country. It interests me that Switzerland has such a high lever of military readiness, since one might think it needs it less than most European countries. Has to do with traditions, culture and how important independence and neutrality is in Switzerland.

    I started a thread about very unusual weapons that could be used in future Bond movies. You should check it out.

    Could you give me the name of the thread or a link? Appreciated, thanks.
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  • Dirty PunkerDirty Punker ...Your Eyes Only, darling."Posts: 2,586MI6 Agent
    Was that you trying to assassinate Mr Goldfinger?
    I never had you for the revenge type.
    Anyway, enjoy. -{
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    (I only spent about 10 minutes pulling the whole thing together.)
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 17,920MI6 Agent
    I remembered wrong about the thread. It was a part of the existing 'A question for the gun experts' thread in the Off Topic section.
    In Norway military service for girls is already (in theory) mandatory. The army is so small now, only well motived people are needed. Female conscription works well. Girls and boys live in the same room, something that actually makes sexual harassment etc. less likely.

    Our military used more and more professional soldiers since the jobs and the equipment gets ever mord complicated. They barely have the time to train the conscripts before they return to civilians life. It's not WWII anymore when most soldiers could be trained in a month of two. I believe the Swiss Army hasn't taken part in international operations (at least in a very small degree?). Our experience from conflict zones like Afghanistan is that a very high lever of training is needed.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 SwitzerlandPosts: 870MI6 Agent
    @Dirty Punker


    ....you dirty punker you... :))

    that's great! you're an artist!
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  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 SwitzerlandPosts: 870MI6 Agent
    edited June 2017
    We have special forces detachments that get the high level training they would need. I belong to one of them Parachute Reconnaissance Company 17, my basic training was to be a Grenadier first. We have several such companies that could go to any war at any time I believe.
    But the great majority of recruits receive a normal standard of training that certainly wouldn't equip them to go to a war. But that's not the purpose of a militia anyway to go abroad to Afghanistan or elsewhere.
    There was/is talk of a professional army in Switzerland but it'll never happen as the Swiss would never allow it, we are a direct democracy, so the people have the last say.
    Our army is modernising itself at the moment and more and more companies get more professionalised for obvious reasons. Also it's not so easy to get into such companies. You have to have the right qualifications. That's something that has changed dramatically.

    Grenadier's (my basic training) are said to be a mixture of US marines and US Army Rangers. Our "NATO-Bahn" the NATO-way is arguably the hardest of it's kind in the world (they say...), it's an obstacle course.

    We work together with other countries in co-operation trainings in Switzerland or in their country. The US army has visited us with soldiers and I had the time of my life I must say.
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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,394MI6 Agent
    Besides the usual suspects like the PPK and P99 I always loved the stripped down and modified automatic Rifle Bond used in the opening of Tomorrow Never Dies.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 17,920MI6 Agent
    I got the impression Parachute Company 17 is a LRRP unit, hardly compare able to US marines?
    What do you mean by NATO-way? The prosess of joining NATO, or an obstacles cource... what?

    We had a lot of training and exercises with US, UK and other nations' soldiers during the cold war and the 1990's, but it turned out that nothing is like actual war. Our military learned a lot in Afghanistan and other conflict areas and a lot of changes were needed. Special forces units were more operational than other units, peacetime training is very different from real war.

    I don't think a completely professional military isn't a good solution for small nations. Sweden tried after the cold war, but now they are going back to a national service model. It was simply too hard to recruit enough soldiers for a completely professional military. Conscription also Connecticut the population with the armed forces. Without it the military and civilian life become paralell society er with lille contact with each other.
    The best system IMO is a mixture of conscripts and professionals.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 SwitzerlandPosts: 870MI6 Agent
    Besides the usual suspects like the PPK and P99 I always loved the stripped down and modified automatic Rifle Bond used in the opening of Tomorrow Never Dies.


    TOMORROW NEVER DIES is my favourite Bond film anyway when it comes to assault rifles and small arms.

    It's a modified Sterling Armalite.

    Here's Brosnan with the AR-180, heavily modified.

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  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 SwitzerlandPosts: 870MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    I got the impression Parachute Company 17 is a LRRP unit, hardly compare able to US marines?
    What do you mean by NATO-way? The prosess of joining NATO, or an obstacles cource... what?

    We had a lot of training and exercises with US, UK and other nations' soldiers during the cold war and the 1990's, but it turned out that nothing is like actual war. Our military learned a lot in Afghanistan and other conflict areas and a lot of changes were needed. Special forces units were more operational than other units, peacetime training is very different from real war.

    I don't think a completely professional military isn't a good solution for small nations. Sweden tried after the cold war, but now they are going back to a national service model. It was simply too hard to recruit enough soldiers for a completely professional military. Conscription also Connecticut the population with the armed forces. Without it the military and civilian life become paralell society er with lille contact with each other.
    The best system IMO is a mixture of conscripts and professionals.


    The NATO-way is an obstacle course.

    As for Marines, the comparison is made merely for the basic training Grenadiers receive, there are many similarities.
    The 17th Company though is only based on Grenadier's training and then they are specialised into para-scouts, they have nothing to do with the marines of course.

    Sorry for the confusion :) I edited my original post a bit.
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  • Dirty PunkerDirty Punker ...Your Eyes Only, darling."Posts: 2,586MI6 Agent
    edited June 2017
    Thanks 006 :007) .
    How about THE WORLD is
    NOT ENOUGH?
    It had some great weapons.
    From Elektra's Colt Mk IV Series 70 that he uses to shoot Valentine...
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    Bad trigger discipline, Elektra.
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    Bond punished her for it...but (realistically) the 1911 had no bullets left after wasting so many at henchmen and breaking free M.
    By the same logic, there would be no pain-free villain but I digress.
    ...to a favourite assault rifle of mine. The very first appearance of the H&K G36.
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    She can shoot me up any day of the week.
    Let's flash forward to a few years late to Quantum
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    Bond finds a SIG P210, which just so happens to be the version commemorating the 50 years of P49 in the Swiss army (1949-1999).
    The weapon's look is a favourite of mine and something about wood and metal looks good. That's not to say that I don't like polymer guns.
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  • 00730073 COPPosts: 857MI6 Agent

    Absolutely correct, it's Finnish arms manufacturer SAKO.

    It's only used by Swiss Army Special Forces.

    Surely you don't mean it like that! It is after all in use by the Finnish Defense Forces as TKIV2000, or "Precision Rifle 2000".... :v

    ...and plenty of other international users as well.....
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  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 SwitzerlandPosts: 870MI6 Agent
    0073 wrote:

    Absolutely correct, it's Finnish arms manufacturer SAKO.

    It's only used by Swiss Army Special Forces.

    Surely you don't mean it like that! It is after all in use by the Finnish Defense Forces as TKIV2000, or "Precision Rifle 2000".... :v

    ...and plenty of other international users as well.....


    ha ha.... :P yeah...you could be right, what I meant it is only used in Swiss Army Special Forces and not in other detachments or companies in the Swiss Army :007)
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  • Dirty PunkerDirty Punker ...Your Eyes Only, darling."Posts: 2,586MI6 Agent
    In Her Majesty's Secret Service, the P210 in the pre-title sequence shoots when kicked by Bond and when it was tossed out of the offender's hands it fired twice in the ground.
    Also, in Tomorrow Never Dies during the printing press escape Bond, while being shot at by a guard, falls to the platform below.
    He manages to shoot his PPK once in the air. Bad trigger discipline, or was it just an error?
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  • thesecretagentthesecretagent CornwallPosts: 2,151MI6 Agent
    Discuss your favourite weapons used in the films.

    In Quantum Of Solace Bond uses a SIG P226.

    M's bodyguard uses a SIG P226, which he then kills two of M's men with and attempts to kill her.
    Later Bond steals a SIG and places it behind his back. He uses it during the firefight at Greene Hotel and with it kills many of General Medrano's and Greene's men, including Carlos and Greene's Driver. When he gets attacked with the axe by Greene, he loses the gun.

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    Type: Pistol Weight: 964 g (34 oz) (with magazine)
    Length: 196 mm (7.7 inch)
    Barrel Length: 112 mm (4.4 inch)
    Capacity: 10, 15, 17, 18, or 20
    Fire Modes: Semi-Auto

    It is not the exact same model I use, I got various SIG guns.

    My favourite though is the one that accompanies me since many years and is one of the most reliable assault rifles ever created. Swiss manufacturer SIG is equipping the army with its guns.
    I can take the SIG550 home with me as the Swiss Army is a milita.

    The SIG 550.
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    Nothing feels safer than sleeping with one under the pillow :P or two....or three....
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    Shooting range is one of my favourite places in the world
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    Generally I find the use of assault rifles and handguns in Quantum Of Solace to be amongst the best gun action in all of the Bond films.

    Nice. But I thought you guys were just armed with Swiss Army knives and Toblerone :))
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  • PPK 7.65mmPPK 7.65mm Saratoga Springs NY USAPosts: 1,108MI6 Agent
    edited August 2017
    Here is one of mine favorites besides the Walther PPK, P5, WA 2000 rifle and the P99 The H&K UMP 9mm as seen in both CR and QOS. Two UMP's are seen used by Gettler's henchman in Venice both fitted with vertical fore grips and suppressors, while one of them also has an ACOG scope. Bond uses a suppressed version to shoot Mr. White at the end of the film. In the teaser of QOS, Bond again uses the UMP with the stock folded and the suppressor removed to defend himself during the car chase.

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    Produced: 1999-present
    Caliber: 9x19mm
    Weight: 5 lbs (2.2 kg) in 9x19mm
    Length: 17.7 in (45 cm) stock folded, 27.2 in (69 cm) stock open
    Barrel length: 7.9 in (20 cm)
    Feed System: 30 round box magazine
    Fire Modes: Safe/Semi/Full-Auto


    The UMP is quickly becoming popular in the military and law enforcement community, Heckler & Koch developed the UMP as a lighter and cheaper successor to the MP5, though both remain in production. The UMP9 (the 9×19mm version of the UMP, it also comes in .40 S&W and .45 ACP) is almost 0.2 kilograms (0.44 lb) lighter than its MP5 counterpart. Its predominantly polymer construction reduces both its weight and the number of parts susceptible to corrosion. On another note, yes the screen used Sig P210 from QOS was just a standard version visually modified with rub on transfers and a gold coin sunk into the grips, to look like the 50th anniversary model. This was mentioned in 007 magazine's Most Famous Gun In The World.
  • Cam008Cam008 Posts: 44MI6 Agent
    Most agents/police go for the .40 in a good quality weapon like the SIG, Glock or Heckler & Koch.
  • Cam008Cam008 Posts: 44MI6 Agent
    I wish the franchise had've allowed him to be armed in the Browning Hi-power at least once.
  • Bond44Bond44 Vauxhall CrossPosts: 1,557MI6 Agent
    Cam008 wrote:
    I wish the franchise had've allowed him to be armed in the Browning Hi-power at least once.
    He used one I think in CR when he confiscated it from the embassy head in his office.

    Cheers :007)
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  • Dirty PunkerDirty Punker ...Your Eyes Only, darling."Posts: 2,586MI6 Agent
    Forget the Hi-Power, what about the Desert Eagle?
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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 6,748MI6 Agent
    Forget the Hi-Power, what about the Desert Eagle?

    Dumb pistol. Utterly pointless.
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