...running against windmills of obsession concerning Craig and this era is rather tedious.
Yes, I can see where it might be
"Windmills of Obsession: My Tedious Experiences in the Craig Era."
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
...running against windmills of obsession concerning Craig and this era is rather tedious.
Yes, I can see where it might be
"Windmills of Obsession: My Tedious Experiences in the Craig Era."
At least we have a high level of insulting here on AJB )
No insult intended - I'm just interested in long-suffering detractors' perspectives. If there had been social media when OP and AVTAK came out, I'd have been venting my spleen in a similar fashion, I suppose.
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
I find it funny how tides have turned from when people were begging Mendes to come back for Spectre, and were excited when he did. Obviously he is culpable to some extent for how it turned out.
If there had been social media when OP and AVTAK came out, I'd have been venting my spleen in a similar fashion, I suppose.
"Glen..again?"
"Conti for Bond 13."
""The 13th? No...the 14th.""
"Mixed feeling about this. I was never a fan of Moore. Connery for life!"
...and so on and so forth.
I wouldn't call Campbell a "steady hand". He made two very good Bond movies, but outside of Bond he has made everything from entertaining successes ("The Mask of Zorro") to absolute stinkers ("The Green Lantern"). That's not steady, that's staggering all over the place.
But as Ronin1974 correctly points out - in terms of Bond he has the right stuff.
It's difficult to pick directors that haven't had a turkey or two in their career. Even Vileneuve who is being largely touted on here was responsible for 'Arrival'.
I wouldn't call Campbell a "steady hand". He made two very good Bond movies, but outside of Bond he has made everything from entertaining successes ("The Mask of Zorro") to absolute stinkers ("The Green Lantern"). That's not steady, that's staggering all over the place.
But as Ronin1974 correctly points out - in terms of Bond he has the right stuff.
It's difficult to pick directors that haven't had a turkey or two in their career. Even Vileneuve who is being largely touted on here was responsible for 'Arrival'.
And "Arrival" was a brilliant and very original take on the alien contact movie. A success among the critics. If you know Metacritic, they calculate an average of the reviews of the most influential film critics. "Arrival" got 82, a very high score. Villenueve has only made very good movies.
What fans of Campbell gamble on is that it's not just luck that both his Bond movies were among his best movies, perhaps his best. I fear it's mainly luck.
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If there had been social media when OP and AVTAK came out, I'd have been venting my spleen in a similar fashion, I suppose.
"Glen..again?"
"Conti for Bond 13."
""The 13th? No...the 14th.""
"Mixed feeling about this. I was never a fan of Moore. Connery for life!"
...and so on and so forth.
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
I find it funny how tides have turned from when people were begging Mendes to come back for Spectre, and were excited when he did. Obviously he is culpable to some extent for how it turned out.
I honestly didn't want him back after his comments about giving it all for Skyfall and nothing left to give..
Though in saying that I immensely enjoyed SPECTRE up to Blofelds lair where the quality dipped
I remember up to 2006 me and my army-brothers going to the cinema bar after the film discussing it with total strangers. Sometimes for hours... Nobody had a phone he/she was staring at constantly.
People actually talked....in person.
In 2008 everyone was SO DEPRESSED after QOS that the bar was half empty. We just sat there after the first viewing discussing what on earth went wrong.
We soon agreed it's all Marc Forster's fault which was especially frustrating as he is Swiss.
The one way street EON has moved itself into with this era calls for Sam Mendes again, shall he end this mess of an era.
Being critical of the current era doesn't mean I am one of those fanatics.
On the other hand running against windmills of obsession concerning Craig and this era is rather tedious. Even on AJB )
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Me thinks, you're bridging into troll territory.
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I'm all for a fresh viewpoint from the director's chair - additionally, though, the apocalyptic take on the Craig Era by some makes me laugh. 'Eon must do this to survive...it must do that with Bond or it won't last...' ) Some of us have watched this franchise wax and wane for half a century, and it has been in worse shape than this - by far.
I think the only director they could announce that would distress me would be Sam Mendes. I'm fully prepared to give whomever else they announce the benefit of the doubt.
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Exactly.
Chill out, people.
Try to maintain a positive mental attitude about the whole situation.
Bond will make it (no matter which studio may buy it or whatever Purvis and Wade think up this time round) and I want to believe that the next film is going to be a very good one, regardless of the director (except Mendes) etc.
Don't let me stop you, though. This is a very interesting conversation, keep at it.
I have a gut feeling it's going to be either one of the young guys like Yann Demange. I think what he does would translate well to Bond but it would be kind of nice to have Campbell back to wrap up Craig's tenure. It seems like Campbell gets Bond and has a certain sensibility that results in good Bond films (doesn't hurt to have real Fleming either) and manages to inject that sensibility without all that "auteur" silliness.
I have a gut feeling it's going to be either one of the young guys like Yann Demange. I think what he does would translate well to Bond but it would be kind of nice to have Campbell back to wrap up Craig's tenure. It seems like Campbell gets Bond and has a certain sensibility that results in good Bond films (doesn't hurt to have real Fleming either) and manages to inject that sensibility without all that "auteur" silliness.
I'd be totally fine with Campbell as well. But Demange has a certain 'buzz' around him :v ...Somehow, I think we'll know by autumn.
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
I'm all for a fresh viewpoint from the director's chair - additionally, though, the apocalyptic take on the Craig Era by some makes me laugh. 'Eon must do this to survive...it must do that with Bond or it won't last...' ) Some of us have watched this franchise wax and wane for half a century, and it has been in worse shape than this - by far.
Thank you, Loeffs. If anything has been proved, it's that NO ONE can kill the Bond franchise. The times I've walked out of a Bond film feeling disappointed I've always been able to say, "Oh, well, there's always the next film." That said, maybe we've got a bunch of budding Hollywood executives here. . .what's their motto? "You're only as good as your last picture."
I'm all for a fresh viewpoint from the director's chair - additionally, though, the apocalyptic take on the Craig Era by some makes me laugh. 'Eon must do this to survive...it must do that with Bond or it won't last...' ) Some of us have watched this franchise wax and wane for half a century, and it has been in worse shape than this - by far.
Thank you, Loeffs. If anything has been proved, it's that NO ONE can kill the Bond franchise. The times I've walked out of a Bond film feeling disappointed I've always been able to say, "Oh, well, there's always the next film." That said, maybe we've got a bunch of budding Hollywood executives here. . .what's their motto? "You're only as good as your last picture."
There's a mindset that psychologists talk about regarding doomsday preppers: there's a narcissistic impulse that has them really hoping for the apocalypse, because they want to be around for the end, and they don't like the idea of the world continuing past them. (I think we just elected a president on that platform...)
I honestly think we're seeing a bit of that here. But the reality everyone needs to get their heads around is that this franchise will outlive us all.
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
I wouldn't call Campbell a "steady hand". He made two very good Bond movies, but outside of Bond he has made everything from entertaining successes ("The Mask of Zorro") to absolute stinkers ("The Green Lantern"). That's not steady, that's staggering all over the place.
But as Ronin1974 correctly points out - in terms of Bond he has the right stuff.
It's difficult to pick directors that haven't had a turkey or two in their career. Even Vileneuve who is being largely touted on here was responsible for 'Arrival'.
And "Arrival" was a brilliant and very original take on the alien contact movie. A success among the critics. If you know Metacritic, they calculate an average of the reviews of the most influential film critics. "Arrival" got 82, a very high score. Villenueve has only made very good movies.
What fans of Campbell gamble on is that it's not just luck that both his Bond movies were among his best movies, perhaps his best. I fear it's mainly luck.
We're going to have to agree to disagree on Arrival. I, along with everyone else I know who has seen it thought it poor.
Regarding Campbell and being lucky, well you were in the Army weren't you? You must recall, what Napoleon said about generals "I'd rather have a general who was lucky than one who was good".
But as Ronin1974 correctly points out - in terms of Bond he has the right stuff.
It's difficult to pick directors that haven't had a turkey or two in their career. Even Vileneuve who is being largely touted on here was responsible for 'Arrival'.
And "Arrival" was a brilliant and very original take on the alien contact movie. A success among the critics. If you know Metacritic, they calculate an average of the reviews of the most influential film critics. "Arrival" got 82, a very high score. Villenueve has only made very good movies.
What fans of Campbell gamble on is that it's not just luck that both his Bond movies were among his best movies, perhaps his best. I fear it's mainly luck.
We're going to have to agree to disagree on Arrival. I, along with everyone else I know who has seen it thought it poor.
Regarding Campbell and being lucky, well you were in the Army weren't you? You must recall, what Napoleon said about generals "I'd rather have a general who was lucky than one who was good".
I enjoyed Arrival, I like renner and I thought it was a decent thoughtful extra terrestrial movie.
Yes, let's agree to disagree about "Arrival".
If Campbell gets hired for Bond25 I won't be upset, after all he made CR :007)
But his films have been all over the place and there are other directors who never make bad movies.
And Napoleon lost in the end.
I think it would be fitting for Campbell to do the next one, we'd most likely get Arnold back and Dc enjoyed working with him, he also delivered a cracking bond movie, what better way to finish Dc's era than with the director who helped him explode into the bond role. Of course if rumours of Bond 25 being more character driven then I think Biers touch would work well.
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If I could see it, maybe I would
Yes, I can see where it might be
"Windmills of Obsession: My Tedious Experiences in the Craig Era."
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
At least we have a high level of insulting here on AJB
No insult intended - I'm just interested in long-suffering detractors' perspectives. If there had been social media when OP and AVTAK came out, I'd have been venting my spleen in a similar fashion, I suppose.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
I know that Loeffs -{
"Conti for Bond 13."
""The 13th? No...the 14th.""
"Mixed feeling about this. I was never a fan of Moore. Connery for life!"
...and so on and so forth.
But as Ronin1974 correctly points out - in terms of Bond he has the right stuff.
It's difficult to pick directors that haven't had a turkey or two in their career. Even Vileneuve who is being largely touted on here was responsible for 'Arrival'.
And "Arrival" was a brilliant and very original take on the alien contact movie. A success among the critics. If you know Metacritic, they calculate an average of the reviews of the most influential film critics. "Arrival" got 82, a very high score. Villenueve has only made very good movies.
What fans of Campbell gamble on is that it's not just luck that both his Bond movies were among his best movies, perhaps his best. I fear it's mainly luck.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
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I honestly didn't want him back after his comments about giving it all for Skyfall and nothing left to give..
Though in saying that I immensely enjoyed SPECTRE up to Blofelds lair where the quality dipped
People actually talked....in person.
In 2008 everyone was SO DEPRESSED after QOS that the bar was half empty. We just sat there after the first viewing discussing what on earth went wrong.
We soon agreed it's all Marc Forster's fault which was especially frustrating as he is Swiss.
The one way street EON has moved itself into with this era calls for Sam Mendes again, shall he end this mess of an era.
I think the only director they could announce that would distress me would be Sam Mendes. I'm fully prepared to give whomever else they announce the benefit of the doubt.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Chill out, people.
Try to maintain a positive mental attitude about the whole situation.
Bond will make it (no matter which studio may buy it or whatever Purvis and Wade think up this time round) and I want to believe that the next film is going to be a very good one, regardless of the director (except Mendes) etc.
Don't let me stop you, though. This is a very interesting conversation, keep at it.
Isn't Villenueve involved in "Dune?" That'll keep him busy for the next two years.
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I'd be totally fine with Campbell as well. But Demange has a certain 'buzz' around him :v ...Somehow, I think we'll know by autumn.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Thank you, Loeffs. If anything has been proved, it's that NO ONE can kill the Bond franchise. The times I've walked out of a Bond film feeling disappointed I've always been able to say, "Oh, well, there's always the next film." That said, maybe we've got a bunch of budding Hollywood executives here. . .what's their motto? "You're only as good as your last picture."
There's a mindset that psychologists talk about regarding doomsday preppers: there's a narcissistic impulse that has them really hoping for the apocalypse, because they want to be around for the end, and they don't like the idea of the world continuing past them. (I think we just elected a president on that platform...)
I honestly think we're seeing a bit of that here. But the reality everyone needs to get their heads around is that this franchise will outlive us all.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
We're going to have to agree to disagree on Arrival. I, along with everyone else I know who has seen it thought it poor.
Regarding Campbell and being lucky, well you were in the Army weren't you? You must recall, what Napoleon said about generals "I'd rather have a general who was lucky than one who was good".
If Campbell gets hired for Bond25 I won't be upset, after all he made CR :007)
But his films have been all over the place and there are other directors who never make bad movies.
And Napoleon lost in the end.