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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,597MI6 Agent
    There is an easy explanation for this:
    Idiots and morons!*

    There is nothing else to say!

    The internet is full with info like „we are poisoning us with CO by wearing masks“ and „we need immune reaction and masks are taking this away from us“.

    That‘s exactly what happens when your education and information happens solely over facebook and Co. and not by watching the good main News Channels and Newspapers.

    My second home is Hong Kong and when someone is sick - they are wearing a mask! Period!
    Not to protect themselfs but to stop infecting others!

    It‘s simple and not hard to understand!

    And noone has ever poisoned themselfs or damaged their brains by CO or destroyed their immune system.

    So why anyone would complain and refuse wearing a mask is beyond my understanding.
    The threat by the Virus is real and serious! We should be serious about it too.

    Rant over!

    * and sorry, if you think that there is not the need to wear a mask - you are one - no matter what infos your „opinion“ is based on.
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Thunderbird 2Thunderbird 2 East of Cardiff, Wales.Posts: 2,729MI6 Agent
    A piece of your Mind, providing clarification, reassurance and confirmation.
    Giving Me peace of Mind! Thanks Higgins.
    This is Thunderbird 2, how can I be of assistance?
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 19,812MI6 Agent
    I'm all for wearing masks in highly infected areas - it's a good thing. That being said, I've never seen anyone not working in the health service wearing masks here in Norway, be it on TV or real life. Perhaps it's because the infection rates never became high here and and few areas a re really densly populated?
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,597MI6 Agent
    How do you know that an area is „highly infected“?
    You can‘t see if a person is infected (without symptoms).
    Thus the rule for wearing masks is, you should do it when you can‘t keep other people 2 meters away from you and when you are inside of a public building.

    Again, masks are not there to protect YOU, masks are worn to protect OTHERS
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 19,812MI6 Agent
    You can know if an region/town is highly infected based on extensive testing, the number of dead and hospitalized etc. There is no guarantee of course, but I there is very good reason to think where I live is far safer than say .... Stockholm.
  • CoolHandBondCoolHandBond Mactan IslandPosts: 4,663MI6 Agent
    TB2 and Higgins: Unfortunately you can’t cure stupid. There are a generation of people who have no respect for anyone else so will continue to do what they want, when they want, to the detriment of everyone else.

    Talking of HK, Higgins, and sorry to hijack the thread, I fear that visiting this wonderful country again may well be impossible with the political climate as it is. How do you view this?
    Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,597MI6 Agent
    I‘ll be careful with my wording because family is living and working there still and I must travel to there sometimes for work.
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 19,812MI6 Agent
    Is it true Trump has said wearing a mask is a sign you're against him?
  • CoolHandBondCoolHandBond Mactan IslandPosts: 4,663MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    Is it true Trump has said wearing a mask is a sign you're against him?

    I have no idea, N24. But if he did, it’s a silly thing to say.

    President Trump has contributed greatly to the Philippines , in terms of money and other aid, in the fight against this dreadful disease, so he is not regarded as all things evil to the majority in this country.
    Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
  • CoolHandBondCoolHandBond Mactan IslandPosts: 4,663MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    I‘ll be careful with my wording because family is living and working there still and I must travel to there sometimes for work.

    I was not thinking properly of your situation out there and fully understand.
    Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
  • JoshuaJoshua Posts: 1,097MI6 Agent
    I wear a mask when I am in any shop or even outside sometimes if I believe there are too many people. When I first put it on I was uncomfortable and thought I looked like a criminal, I also found it difficult to breathe, but this feelings soon passed. I have mentioned before that I help out with elderly people in the community and even when gardening for them and never coming into contact (because they are indoors) I still always wear a mask. I think more fuss is made because I almost never wear shoes when I am working in the gardens! When they see my bare feet I think many people think I cannot afford shoes!

    I think it to be a show of politeness as much as anything else and tells people I wish them to be as safe as possible from any germs I may be breathing out. The habit of wearing a mask is one which I think I will continue until I believe it is safe not to rather than listening to advice on the virus.
  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    Again, masks are not there to protect YOU, masks are worn to protect OTHERS

    I've always been really confused when I hear medical officials and politicians say that—masks are not worn to protect you but to protect others; but doesn't that also mean it protects you...you're one of the "others" when viewed from someone else's perspective ?:)
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 19,812MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    Is it true Trump has said wearing a mask is a sign you're against him?

    I have no idea, N24. But if he did, it’s a silly thing to say.

    President Trump has contributed greatly to the Philippines , in terms of money and other aid, in the fight against this dreadful disease, so he is not regarded as all things evil to the majority in this country.

    I'm glad to hear the US is contributing against Corona in the Philippines, because I'm worried China and Russia using the crisis to increase their soft power.
    I found the story that's probably the basis of what I heard. Trump said some people are using masks to signal oposition to him.
    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-americans-wearing-masks-show-disapproval-not-as-preventive-measure-2020-6?r=US&IR=T
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,597MI6 Agent
    JTM wrote:
    Higgins wrote:
    Again, masks are not there to protect YOU, masks are worn to protect OTHERS

    I've always been really confused when I hear medical officials and politicians say that—masks are not worn to protect you but to protect others; but doesn't that also mean it protects you...you're one of the "others" when viewed from someone else's perspective ?:)

    Well, the common argument of the mask-refusers is „ my risk - my choice“ or „I‘ll have to die at some point“ or the like.

    That‘s why officials repeat on and on, that masks are not there mainly to protect you.
    And if you are not wearing one, you put others in danger - and that „others“ can be you, if your counterpart refuses to wear a mask.
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • 00730073 COPPosts: 910MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    There is an easy explanation for this:
    Idiots and morons!

    ...

    My second home is Hong Kong and when someone is sick - they are wearing a mask! Period!
    Not to protect themselfs but to stop infecting others!

    It‘s simple and not hard to understand!

    I concur!
    "I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
    -Mr Arlington Beech
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 9,646MI6 Agent
    Air bridges announcement soon.

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    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 19,812MI6 Agent
    Sweden has on average 25 corona dead per day. It may not sound like a lot, but I think Norway has less than one per day. The other Nordic nations have low numbers too. It's of course still possible Sweden gets vindicated if a second wave of corona comes before any effective medicine is found and the Swedish population has gained mass imunity. The plan was to have mass imunity by May, but it's nowhere in sight. Instead Sweden has 52.8 corona dead per 100 000 people, Denmark 10.4, Finland 5.9, Norway 4.7 and Iceland 2.9.
    The Swedish expert group under the leadership of Anders Tegnell still belive their strategy of keeping society open was correct and they only would have made "minor adjustments" if they knew what they now know from the start.
    But if the corona virus had developed in the same way in Sweden as it has in Norway the number of dead would have been about 500 (adjusted for the size of the populations), but in reality Sweden's number is about 5200!
    That's a huge responisibility. :#
  • 00730073 COPPosts: 910MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    ....It's of course still possible Sweden gets vindicated....

    That day is closer than you think:

    Sweden launches probe into handling of pandemic

    https://www.dw.com/en/sweden-launches-probe-into-handling-of-pandemic/a-53651574
    "I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
    -Mr Arlington Beech
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 19,812MI6 Agent
    Vindicated: To clear of accusation, blame, suspicion, or doubt with supporting arguments or proof :) :)
  • 00730073 COPPosts: 910MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    Vindicated: To clear of accusation, blame, suspicion, or doubt with supporting arguments or proof :) :)

    Yes I know, and since Swedes know, that no one else will do that for them, they'll do them selves... :v

    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
    "I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
    -Mr Arlington Beech
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 19,812MI6 Agent
    In other words, you think the probe will conveniently find the strategy was the correct one? I wish I could say you're wrong.
    At least the probe will give them something to do this summer, since no-one wants them to visit as toursits :))
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 19,812MI6 Agent
    Sweden just decided to require guests in bars and restaurants have to keep a distance of at least one meter. About time, most countries with the same level of infection closed their bars long ago.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,597MI6 Agent
    I am shocked hearing about Corona Parties where a price money was promised to the first one to catch the virus.

    Pretty sure that ER healthworkers have a strong opinion about this...
    You can‘t fight stupid I guess
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • 00730073 COPPosts: 910MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    I am shocked hearing about Corona Parties where a price money was promised to the first one to catch the virus.

    Pretty sure that ER healthworkers have a strong opinion about this...
    You can‘t fight stupid I guess

    "The only difference between stupidity and genius, is that genius has its limits"
    "I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
    -Mr Arlington Beech
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 19,812MI6 Agent
    Because of the low rate of infection the Norwegian health authorities now allow the hugging of close friends. Now I'll run out the door and hug my best male friends for the first time in my life (I'm a cold, emotionally stunted north European)
  • The Spy Who Never DiesThe Spy Who Never Dies UKPosts: 644MI6 Agent
    0073 wrote:
    Higgins wrote:
    I am shocked hearing about Corona Parties where a price money was promised to the first one to catch the virus.

    Pretty sure that ER healthworkers have a strong opinion about this...
    You can‘t fight stupid I guess

    "The only difference between stupidity and genius, is that genius has its limits"

    A friend of mine used to say "no-one is an idiot on purpose" but if people really are doing this then that saying is way off! I've heard of Chicken Pox parties where parents would take their kids to a friend's house whose child had it, hoping theirs would get it too. The reasoning behind that was it was easier on the child to have chicken pox while they are young as opposed to in adulthood.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 19,812MI6 Agent
    edited July 2020
    Number24 wrote:
    Because of the low rate of infection the Norwegian health authorities now allow the hugging of close friends. Now I'll run out the door and hug my best male friends for the first time in my life (I'm a cold, emotionally stunted north European)

    It turns out we're not allowed to hug our close friends anyway, so my friends are safe this decade too :))
  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,354MI6 Agent
    I'm sending you a virtual hug, Number24, if that helps :D
    "How was your lamb?" "Skewered. One sympathises."
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 19,812MI6 Agent
    I instinctively and virtually flinch and pull away at this display of Mediteranian show of emotion, but virtually bump elbows in apriciation :)
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 9,646MI6 Agent
    The bars are open, time to head out, puff on a cigar, drink a pint and... feast.

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    Bet that put you off.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
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