No Time to Die delayed until October 8th, 2021

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  • BlindManBaldwinBlindManBaldwin Posts: 105MI6 Agent
    JTM wrote:
    So Wonder Woman 1984 is sticking with its Christmas Day release but is also going to be released simultaneously on HBO Max in the US. Could be an option for NTTD...but which service?

    https://ew.com/movies/wonder-woman-1984-hbo-max-theatrical-release/?utm_campaign=entertainmentweekly_entertainmentweekly&utm_content=new&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_term=5fb5b7f2f7584a00013cdcd0

    Internationally, where there's no HBO Max, there's a cinema release only on Dec 16.

    That's the big barrier. WW84 aided by being owned by Warner, who has HBO Max.
  • Westward_DriftWestward_Drift Posts: 2,620MI6 Agent
    JTM wrote:
    So Wonder Woman 1984 is sticking with its Christmas Day release but is also going to be released simultaneously on HBO Max in the US. Could be an option for NTTD...but which service?

    https://ew.com/movies/wonder-woman-1984-hbo-max-theatrical-release/?utm_campaign=entertainmentweekly_entertainmentweekly&utm_content=new&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_term=5fb5b7f2f7584a00013cdcd0

    Internationally, where there's no HBO Max, there's a cinema release only on Dec 16.

    That's the big barrier. WW84 aided by being owned by Warner, who has HBO Max.

    The irony is that WW84 was to be released on Nov 1, 2019 and all indications are it was ready to be released. It was delayed in the belief a summer 2020 release would earn more money.
  • JTMJTM Posts: 2,994MI6 Agent
    JTM wrote:
    So Wonder Woman 1984 is sticking with its Christmas Day release but is also going to be released simultaneously on HBO Max in the US. Could be an option for NTTD...but which service?

    https://ew.com/movies/wonder-woman-1984-hbo-max-theatrical-release/?utm_campaign=entertainmentweekly_entertainmentweekly&utm_content=new&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_term=5fb5b7f2f7584a00013cdcd0

    Internationally, where there's no HBO Max, there's a cinema release only on Dec 16.

    That's the big barrier. WW84 aided by being owned by Warner, who has HBO Max.

    NTTD is a co-production between MGM and Universal Pictures; Universal Pictures is a division of NBCUniversal; NBC Universal owns the streaming services Peacock and has a 33% stake in Hulu (Disney owns 60%).

    I think Peacock is just TV shows so what about Hulu? I believe Hulu already has the whole Bond series in its catalogue, as well as the doco Becoming Bond (and the MI and Bourne series') so NTTD would fit right in there. Buuuuut like HBO Max, Hulu is only US...
  • BlindManBaldwinBlindManBaldwin Posts: 105MI6 Agent
    JTM wrote:
    JTM wrote:
    So Wonder Woman 1984 is sticking with its Christmas Day release but is also going to be released simultaneously on HBO Max in the US. Could be an option for NTTD...but which service?

    https://ew.com/movies/wonder-woman-1984-hbo-max-theatrical-release/?utm_campaign=entertainmentweekly_entertainmentweekly&utm_content=new&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_term=5fb5b7f2f7584a00013cdcd0

    Internationally, where there's no HBO Max, there's a cinema release only on Dec 16.

    That's the big barrier. WW84 aided by being owned by Warner, who has HBO Max.

    NTTD is a co-production between MGM and Universal Pictures; Universal Pictures is a division of NBCUniversal; NBC Universal owns the streaming services Peacock and has a 33% stake in Hulu (Disney owns 60%).

    I think Peacock is just TV shows so what about Hulu? I believe Hulu already has the whole Bond series in its catalogue, as well as the doco Becoming Bond (and the MI and Bourne series') so NTTD would fit right in there. Buuuuut like HBO Max, Hulu is only US...

    Universal just has international distribution rights IIRC, they weren't involved in the production. That's why MGM was shopping it to Netflix and Apple at one point and not Universal. Though, I could have my information confused so anyone please correct me if I am.

    Really, at this point I think I have two firm beliefs based on news:

    1. EON, who based on reporting has a veto right over streaming, is committed to a theatrical release.

    2. Theatrical release will be possible sometime in 2021 due to tremendous, almost miraculous success in vaccination development.

    April may be dicey, but I think Summer 2021 isn't impossible. I know in my state, DHHS has said ~March/April general population will get vaccinations.

    And frankly, risk plummets tremendously once health care workers and high-risk populations get vaccinated.

    All comes down to the success of OPERATION WARP SPEED (sidenote: doesn't that sound like a Bond villain's plan name :)) )
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,600MI6 Agent
    JTM wrote:

    That's the big barrier. WW84 aided by being owned by Warner, who has HBO Max.

    NTTD is a co-production between MGM and Universal Pictures; Universal Pictures is a division of NBCUniversal; NBC Universal owns the streaming services Peacock and has a 33% stake in Hulu (Disney owns 60%).

    I think Peacock is just TV shows so what about Hulu? I believe Hulu already has the whole Bond series in its catalogue, as well as the doco Becoming Bond (and the MI and Bourne series') so NTTD would fit right in there. Buuuuut like HBO Max, Hulu is only US...

    Universal just has international distribution rights IIRC, they weren't involved in the production. That's why MGM was shopping it to Netflix and Apple at one point and not Universal. Though, I could have my information confused so anyone please correct me if I am.

    Really, at this point I think I have two firm beliefs based on news:

    1. EON, who based on reporting has a veto right over streaming, is committed to a theatrical release.

    2. Theatrical release will be possible sometime in 2021 due to tremendous, almost miraculous success in vaccination development.

    April may be dicey, but I think Summer 2021 isn't impossible. I know in my state, DHHS has said ~March/April general population will get vaccinations.

    And frankly, risk plummets tremendously once health care workers and high-risk populations get vaccinated.

    All comes down to the success of OPERATION WARP SPEED (sidenote: doesn't that sound like a Bond villain's plan name :)) )

    I think your post is spot on. If all goes well with the vaccine, my guess is EON will opt for a late November 2021 release date and not try to jockey for position with all the other tentpoles that will be looking for a summer release.
    The Wonder Woman HBO Max release news is very interesting but not totally surprising. HBO/HBO Max is owned by Warner Media and is deeply embedded with Warner Bros Studio in resurrecting the DC Universe. HBO Max will be showing the much anticipated mini series version of the "Snyder Cut" of the Justice League movie (which Warners poured over 73 Million into) and there are plans for several high budget DC Universe TV series on HBO Max. No question, HBO/Warners is trying to go head to head with Disney+/Marvel and raising up the ante by offering the highly anticipated tentpole, Wonder Woman 1985 at no extra premium charge (unlike Disney who were hitting up subscribers and extra $30.00 to stream Mulan). The only issue I see with HBO Max is the lack of 4K HDR capability (although HBO Max streams at a much high bitrate than regular HBO, Showtime, etc and looks much better).
    One has to wonder if in competing with Disney and all its high zoot franchises, the folks over at Warners might be a good candidate to buy out MGM's stake in Bond....hmmm.
  • HalfMonk HalfHitmanHalfMonk HalfHitman USAPosts: 1,995MI6 Agent
    This is huge, though they call it a stop-gap measure, and shows signs that studios know theaters won't make enough money to justify wide theatrical releases in 2021:

    Warner Bros. Will Debut Its Entire 2021 Theatrical Slate on HBO Max

    https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2020/12/warner-bros-movies-hbo-max
  • BlindManBaldwinBlindManBaldwin Posts: 105MI6 Agent
    This is huge, though they call it a stop-gap measure, and shows signs that studios know theaters won't make enough money to justify wide theatrical releases in 2021:

    Warner Bros. Will Debut Its Entire 2021 Theatrical Slate on HBO Max

    https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2020/12/warner-bros-movies-hbo-max

    I don't think your point is invalid, but I also wonder if this also is Warner trying to expand into streaming/salvage HBO Max.

    Big thing to watch is if Disney follows or if they stick to theaters.
  • HalfMonk HalfHitmanHalfMonk HalfHitman USAPosts: 1,995MI6 Agent
    This is huge, though they call it a stop-gap measure, and shows signs that studios know theaters won't make enough money to justify wide theatrical releases in 2021:

    Warner Bros. Will Debut Its Entire 2021 Theatrical Slate on HBO Max

    https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2020/12/warner-bros-movies-hbo-max

    I don't think your point is invalid, but I also wonder if this also is Warner trying to expand into streaming/salvage HBO Max.

    Big thing to watch is if Disney follows or if they stick to theaters.

    This isn't expanding into streaming or "salvaging" HBO Max when they're throwing their entire theatrical slate at it - Dune, Godzilla, Suicide Squad, new Matrix - this is a massive move.

    And Disney made the first move of this kind with Mulan. They will almost certainly follow suit with Black Widow soon.
  • CheverianCheverian Posts: 1,207MI6 Agent
    They will almost certainly follow suit with Black Widow soon.

    That’s my thought, too. Black Widow isn’t a tent pole Marvel film (or they wouldn’t have waited a decade to make it). If ever there was a big but not blockbuster-size movie to premiere on Disney’s+, this may be it.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,322MI6 Agent
    Looking at news about corona and the vaccines it looks to me like the most at-risk groups will have been vaccinated by April next year. This will make the risk of going to the cinema lower (you don't have to worry about infecting grandma), but is it enough?
    I'd think a good portion of the general population will be vaccinated by next summer and most who wish to be vaccinated a year from now. So moving the premiere to the summer will be safer, not to mention next November. I'm talking about the richer countries, sadly Africa and other poor er countries will have to wait longer.
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,600MI6 Agent
    edited December 2020
    Couple of details to consider regarding the Warner Bros /HBOMax direct to streaming releases: HBOMax is only available in the USA, the films will only stream for one month and then held for another stab at theatrical release down the line. IMO, while this is being touted as a "stop gap" measure by Warners to get their backlog of films out there, one can imagine that this is also an experiment/test run to assess the viability of streaming as an alternative to theatrical releases. I also agree that this is a major attempt to promote HBOMax with what basically is a "loss leader" and also one-up Disney plus in a big way. Also, one of the big criticisms of HBOMax has been HBOMax's the lack of 4K HDR, Dolby Atmos Sound, etc that is available with other streaming platforms like Apple TV and Disney+. Not surprisingly, it was announced that these films will be streaming with all the state of the art bells and whistles, 4K UHD HDR, Dolby Atmos Sound, and Dolby Vision which will be a first for HBOMax. I don't believe that this signals the end of theatrical releases, especially given that there is real hope that things will get back to "normal" within the next year. However, I believe that theatrical releases of movies will morph into more of a limited "boutique event" experience for big releases with most lower budget/non-tentpole type films going direct to cable/streaming services with more partnerships between the traditional studios and the cable/streaming industry. The numbers of auditoriums in multiplexes will be downsized and replaced with more state of the art premium IMAX and Dolby Cinema type auditoriums with giant screens, laser projection, and monster sound systems.... somewhat similar to the 1950's when Cinerama and Cinemascope were introduced to theaters to compete with advent of affordable TV's.
  • HalfMonk HalfHitmanHalfMonk HalfHitman USAPosts: 1,995MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    Looking at news about corona and the vaccines it looks to me like the most at-risk groups will have been vaccinated by April next year.

    Something that no one will be able to predict - the vaccination is voluntary and there is a not-insignificant number of people who are against vaccines, throwing a bit of a wrench into this whole plan. (Yesterday the ostensible star of Disney/Marvel's Black Panther 2 retweeted some anti-vaxx conspiracy nonsense.) I will get the vaccine, but will I feel safe in a theater knowing how many folks out there are demonstrably rejecting science every day?
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,322MI6 Agent
    That's a problem, yes. The anti-vaccines movement has already done a lot of damage in the world. I'm not sure, but I have a suspicion the movement has come furthest in the US, making the problem biggest there.
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 25,369Chief of Staff
    Number24 wrote:
    Looking at news about corona and the vaccines it looks to me like the most at-risk groups will have been vaccinated by April next year.

    Something that no one will be able to predict - the vaccination is voluntary and there is a not-insignificant number of people who are against vaccines, throwing a bit of a wrench into this whole plan. (Yesterday the ostensible star of Disney/Marvel's Black Panther 2 retweeted some anti-vaxx conspiracy nonsense.) I will get the vaccine, but will I feel safe in a theater knowing how many folks out there are demonstrably rejecting science every day?

    But why would you not feel safe if you’ve had the vaccine?
    YNWA 97
  • thelordflasheartthelordflasheart Posts: 307MI6 Agent
    No vaccine is 100% effective. The efficacy rate for the most promising vaccine is around 95% in ideal conditions (and less for others). That means that someone who receives the vaccine still has the possibility of contracting COVID.

    But, the more people that get the vaccine means that there are fewer people to spread it (although even that is in question, and can be different depending on the type of vaccine used). If vaccine uptake was, say, 75% of a population then I would feel much more comfortable seeing a movie than if it was, say, 40% of the population.

    Like anything, there is more nuance to this:

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-immunity-analysis/analysis-can-first-covid-19-vaccines-bring-herd-immunity-experts-have-doubts-idUSKBN27Y124

    The idea is that the more people that are immunized means that it's another tool in slowing the spread. BUT - and this is important - we still need to social distance, wear masks, and wash hands frequently.

    What has been amazingly frustrating to me is the anti-maskers or conspiracy theorists who claim that their biggest priority is to open up the economy. If they would do those three things I listed, then we could have opened up almost all of the economy already.

    Not being American I'm astonished at the prevalence of the conspiracy theories that are broadcast far and wide. I mean, I even saw a video from one of the most popular Bond influencers where his guest starting off with COVID conspiracies and the host didn't call him out on it.

    This is important - we can agree to disagree on matter of opinion but not on matters of fact.

    What I would challenge everyone to do all over the world is, in addition to social distancing, wearing masks, and washing hands, add a fourth thing - challenge people on untruths. Ask them "Why do you believe that?" If they say it's just something they feel, ask them if that's a reasonable way to assess truth (how many times did they "feel" so sure that something was going to happen but it didn't?). If they say "Oh, I heard this..." ask them who did they hear it from? Why would they believe it? If they say "I've done my research" ask them to specifically list the resources they went to and what they found, and how they verified it (hint: watching a Youtube video is not "research").

    Sorry for the rant, but the reason that we haven't watch NTTD with our friends in theatres by now is because of those types of people. We had the opportunity to get the numbers down to a place where we could have seen movies, but...we didn't. As I said many months ago, "Want to see NTTD in November? Wear a mask today"
  • AugustWalkerAugustWalker Posts: 788MI6 Agent
    People are just dumb...when you boil it down.

    I see it daily in my own surroundings. Young people of my age (20 sth) that just cannot go without partying, drinking and going out.

    As all of the restaurants are closed now (dumb move, government), they all switched to „take-away“. As X-mas is right around the corner, they all put up „Glühwein“-stalls in front of their houses...for take-away only (hahaha, as if...). Naturally, when 20 people order take-away at the same time, they‘ll have to wait for it. And with the Glühwein-stalls in front of the house...you can guess where this is going... :)

    On another note, some kids even got really creative and each bought a daily ticket for public transportations only to ride the train the whole day where they „coincidentally“ met all their friends. In all the years prior to COVID, people used to go on summer vacation once a year....Boom, COVID comes around and they go three times in one summer...really bonkers.
    When the first lockdown hit Germany in the spring, people misused grocery shopping as an excursion for the whole family.

    The virus would still exist in any case today, but I dare say I‘d be a lot more controllable/ handleable if people stuck to the most prevalent rules.
    But no.

    Everyday, when I see the pictures from all of these people with their duck faces and fooling around, I am genuinely disappointed of how dumb the broad public actually is.


    No Time To Die:
    I think it’s more or less safe to say that this movie isn’t likely to come out in April. I don’t see it.
    It‘d be cool if EON would release sth in the meantime, there are lots of things overdue: deleted scenes, new making of‘s or maybe even some BTS stuff for NTTD.
    But as for fan service, they’re pretty lame. A simple post of „Happy Friday, Bond-fans“ with DC raising a martini ever two weeks just doesn’t do it for me. Zero Effort.


    Don‘t know who of you is on Instagram, but I‘m currently doing a virtual Bond advent calendar which a collectible behind a door every day. Don‘t wanna pad myself on the shoulder but I think it‘s still more creative than official sources have ever gotten. Also, there are quite some other fans who put out really great content and I‘m not talking about the Influencer-salesmen.
    The name is Walker by the way.

    IG: @thebondarchives
    Check it out, you won’t be disappointed :)
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,322MI6 Agent
    What Bond youtube influenced has been spreading Covid conspiracy theories?
  • thelordflasheartthelordflasheart Posts: 307MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    What Bond youtube influenced has been spreading Covid conspiracy theories?

    The reasons I didn't mention them by name are 1) I don't want to give anymore bandwidth to those comments and 2) "naming and shaming" isn't a good way of bringing people over to a more reasonable position.

    As well, when I saw the vid several people had already called out the host in the comments for not calling out his friend's bs. Of course, the problem is that not everyone who watched the video would read all the comments. That's why it's important to confront misinformation as soon as it's said.

    I'm not psychic so I don't know why this happened, but there are a couple of very human reasons that could have been at work. The first is that there's an implied impoliteness to contradicting a friend, and that's magnified if it's done "in public". (I personally think you can do this in a non-confrontational way though that shouldn't hurt any reasonable person's feelings).

    Another reason could be that in order to have and keep the largest numbers of viewers/subscribers possible you don't address certain topics. But if that topic DOES get brought up you don't then say anything that may turn off some of the viewers. Seeing how polarized people are in the US about coronavirus, and how passionate (or obstinate) people are in their beliefs, I can understand why someone may have concerns about expressing something that would not just turn off, but actually anger, viewers.

    But given the magnitude of this problem, and the effects to the economy and people's health, shouldn't truth matter?

    I'll be the first to admit that maybe I'm naïve. And I freely acknowledge that because of the way I choose to run my business I'm not as successful as some other people in my industry.

    But I was just really sad that someone I really like didn't choose to stand up to misinformation. What would have really made me respect them is if they had come out afterward and said "This is important, I made a mistake and I want to correct it".

    But it's not my choice to make.

    Now, was this video (there may have been more, I've stopped watching after that one) the straw that broke the camel's back in terms of COVID spread? Of course not. But we all have our part to do in helping create and keep the type of society we live in. And with clients and family and friends who work in health care and pharma, I can easily get enraged about the promulgation of misinformation. To paraphrase a famous quote, all it takes for misinformation to spread is for people who know better to do nothing.

    Okay, I'm done ranting for today. Now I just feel depressed.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,322MI6 Agent
    I hear you. In some ways we live in a "post-fact society". Proof and fact is easily available, but anyone with a computer with a camera can spread their ideas. Some power-center have spread the idea that traditional media are full of lies, so many listen to these armchair warriors and don't want to listen to any real journalists or experts.
    Let's be depressed together. :)
  • HalfMonk HalfHitmanHalfMonk HalfHitman USAPosts: 1,995MI6 Agent
    No vaccine is 100% effective. The efficacy rate for the most promising vaccine is around 95% in ideal conditions (and less for others). That means that someone who receives the vaccine still has the possibility of contracting COVID.

    But, the more people that get the vaccine means that there are fewer people to spread it (although even that is in question, and can be different depending on the type of vaccine used). If vaccine uptake was, say, 75% of a population then I would feel much more comfortable seeing a movie than if it was, say, 40% of the population.

    Like anything, there is more nuance to this:

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-immunity-analysis/analysis-can-first-covid-19-vaccines-bring-herd-immunity-experts-have-doubts-idUSKBN27Y124

    The idea is that the more people that are immunized means that it's another tool in slowing the spread. BUT - and this is important - we still need to social distance, wear masks, and wash hands frequently.

    What has been amazingly frustrating to me is the anti-maskers or conspiracy theorists who claim that their biggest priority is to open up the economy. If they would do those three things I listed, then we could have opened up almost all of the economy already.

    Not being American I'm astonished at the prevalence of the conspiracy theories that are broadcast far and wide. I mean, I even saw a video from one of the most popular Bond influencers where his guest starting off with COVID conspiracies and the host didn't call him out on it.

    This is important - we can agree to disagree on matter of opinion but not on matters of fact.

    What I would challenge everyone to do all over the world is, in addition to social distancing, wearing masks, and washing hands, add a fourth thing - challenge people on untruths. Ask them "Why do you believe that?" If they say it's just something they feel, ask them if that's a reasonable way to assess truth (how many times did they "feel" so sure that something was going to happen but it didn't?). If they say "Oh, I heard this..." ask them who did they hear it from? Why would they believe it? If they say "I've done my research" ask them to specifically list the resources they went to and what they found, and how they verified it (hint: watching a Youtube video is not "research").

    Sorry for the rant, but the reason that we haven't watch NTTD with our friends in theatres by now is because of those types of people. We had the opportunity to get the numbers down to a place where we could have seen movies, but...we didn't. As I said many months ago, "Want to see NTTD in November? Wear a mask today"

    Well said!
  • CheverianCheverian Posts: 1,207MI6 Agent
    No vaccine is 100% effective. The efficacy rate for the most promising vaccine is around 95% in ideal conditions (and less for others). That means that someone who receives the vaccine still has the possibility of contracting COVID.

    But, the more people that get the vaccine means that there are fewer people to spread it (although even that is in question, and can be different depending on the type of vaccine used). If vaccine uptake was, say, 75% of a population then I would feel much more comfortable seeing a movie than if it was, say, 40% of the population.

    Like anything, there is more nuance to this:

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-immunity-analysis/analysis-can-first-covid-19-vaccines-bring-herd-immunity-experts-have-doubts-idUSKBN27Y124

    The idea is that the more people that are immunized means that it's another tool in slowing the spread. BUT - and this is important - we still need to social distance, wear masks, and wash hands frequently.

    What has been amazingly frustrating to me is the anti-maskers or conspiracy theorists who claim that their biggest priority is to open up the economy. If they would do those three things I listed, then we could have opened up almost all of the economy already.

    Not being American I'm astonished at the prevalence of the conspiracy theories that are broadcast far and wide. I mean, I even saw a video from one of the most popular Bond influencers where his guest starting off with COVID conspiracies and the host didn't call him out on it.

    This is important - we can agree to disagree on matter of opinion but not on matters of fact.

    What I would challenge everyone to do all over the world is, in addition to social distancing, wearing masks, and washing hands, add a fourth thing - challenge people on untruths. Ask them "Why do you believe that?" If they say it's just something they feel, ask them if that's a reasonable way to assess truth (how many times did they "feel" so sure that something was going to happen but it didn't?). If they say "Oh, I heard this..." ask them who did they hear it from? Why would they believe it? If they say "I've done my research" ask them to specifically list the resources they went to and what they found, and how they verified it (hint: watching a Youtube video is not "research").

    Sorry for the rant, but the reason that we haven't watch NTTD with our friends in theatres by now is because of those types of people. We had the opportunity to get the numbers down to a place where we could have seen movies, but...we didn't. As I said many months ago, "Want to see NTTD in November? Wear a mask today"

    Well said!

    +1
  • LuciusNightmareLuciusNightmare Posts: 99MI6 Agent
    In light of the Warner Bros news, it looks as though many studios are moving towards a hybrid model. Whereby you release in theatres and have a shortened window before going to streaming.

    Now Disney and Warner Bros have that capacity as they have their own streaming service. In lieu of MGM having a similar service, they could go down the PVOd path after a short release in cinemas. Alternatively, they could broker a deal with a streamer like Apple and release on their service after 3-4 weeks in cinemas.

    If they don't go with a hybrid model and stick purely to a theatrical release, then sadly, it'll probably move. I think the best move would be to skip summer. Then date NTTD for October 1, 2021. By then the vaccine would have been widely distributed. Plus, that date has bought a lot of luck to both Venom and Joker.

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  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,600MI6 Agent
    IMO, I think if all goes well with the vaccine, EON will go back to the traditional mid to late November release date for NTTD.
  • CheverianCheverian Posts: 1,207MI6 Agent
    HowardB wrote:
    IMO, I think if all goes well with the vaccine, EON will go back to the traditional mid to late November release date for NTTD.

    It's probably the likeliest outcome but I can't help thinking Craig's swan song as Bond will feel like very old news by that point, mostly because of the two prior marketing pushes — but also because of everything else young and exciting (The Batman, Black Panther 2, etc) on the horizon.
  • HalfMonk HalfHitmanHalfMonk HalfHitman USAPosts: 1,995MI6 Agent
    Those movies will be months later or more (IF they stick their respective dates; they've each had their own problems lately). Not sure hype for an upcoming movie trumps an actual movie you can watch.
  • BlindManBaldwinBlindManBaldwin Posts: 105MI6 Agent
    Cheverian wrote:
    HowardB wrote:
    IMO, I think if all goes well with the vaccine, EON will go back to the traditional mid to late November release date for NTTD.

    It's probably the likeliest outcome but I can't help thinking Craig's swan song as Bond will feel like very old news by that point, mostly because of the two prior marketing pushes — but also because of everything else young and exciting (The Batman, Black Panther 2, etc) on the horizon.

    What prior two marketing pushes?

    The first one, I'll spot you. But the second one never really began — there was a trailer and a TV appearance. But they hadn't started the mass advertisements yet at all.

    To the vast majority of people who aren't dorks like us, they may not even know the film is coming out. It won't be "old news" if it never existed in their mind!
  • CheverianCheverian Posts: 1,207MI6 Agent
    Cheverian wrote:
    HowardB wrote:
    IMO, I think if all goes well with the vaccine, EON will go back to the traditional mid to late November release date for NTTD.

    It's probably the likeliest outcome but I can't help thinking Craig's swan song as Bond will feel like very old news by that point, mostly because of the two prior marketing pushes — but also because of everything else young and exciting (The Batman, Black Panther 2, etc) on the horizon.

    What prior two marketing pushes?

    The first one, I'll spot you. But the second one never really began — there was a trailer and a TV appearance. But they hadn't started the mass advertisements yet at all.

    To the vast majority of people who aren't dorks like us, they may not even know the film is coming out. It won't be "old news" if it never existed in their mind!

    I can't speak to what people did or didn't see, but I saw the TV commercials this fall. And magazines were using the stars on their autumn covers as if in preparation for the November premiere. (It was Total Film's second NTTD cover!) Plus all the cheesy tabloid stories about Bond "bankrupting" MGM, etc.

    This strikes me as one of those questions that can't be resolved until the movie comes out and either fulfills expectations or fizzles.

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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 6,844MI6 Agent
    There’s been loads of marketing and tie-ins for both cancelled releases. Omega, NPeal, C&J etc. Heineken and Bollinger both have standees and product in the shops now as do Omega Magazines, souvenir items, the list goes on. If you’re not aware of prior marketing pushes you must have been living in a cave as they’ve been and still are happening.
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  • Gala BrandGala Brand Posts: 1,147MI6 Agent
    EON should push the US release date off to mid-June. By then the US should be approaching herd immunity (assuming 20 million immunizations a month, and, sadly, 6 million reported cases a month) and theatres should be open.
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 6,844MI6 Agent
    I’d be astounded if they release it before August now.
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