IMO, I think if all goes well with the vaccine, EON will go back to the traditional mid to late November release date for NTTD.
It's probably the likeliest outcome but I can't help thinking Craig's swan song as Bond will feel like very old news by that point, mostly because of the two prior marketing pushes — but also because of everything else young and exciting (The Batman, Black Panther 2, etc) on the horizon.
As long as things are close to being back to normal, and by normal I mean going to the movies is safe, I think if NTTD is good, people will come out to see it. Bond is a tradition and I believe people will have a hunger to get back to the traditional things of the past that they enjoy. The other thing is we are talking about the general public, not the sampling of Bond fanatics who frequent the AJB and have been obsessing about this film for a multitude of reasons for what seems like years (actually it has been years ) ).
IMO, I think if all goes well with the vaccine, EON will go back to the traditional mid to late November release date for NTTD.
It's probably the likeliest outcome but I can't help thinking Craig's swan song as Bond will feel like very old news by that point, mostly because of the two prior marketing pushes — but also because of everything else young and exciting (The Batman, Black Panther 2, etc) on the horizon.
As long as things are close to being back to normal, and by normal I mean going to the movies is safe, I think if NTTD is good, people will come out to see it. Bond is a tradition and I believe people will have a hunger to get back to the traditional things of the past that they enjoy. The other thing is we are talking about the general public, not the sampling of Bond fanatics who frequent the AJB and have been obsessing about this film for a multitude of reasons for what seems like years (actually it has been years ) ).
I agree with all of this.
I also would like to add, if the film is good then people will see it. This is kind of a simple, "no s***, Sherlock" thing to say, but I think it's important. Post-COVID, if there is a good film in a theater that is fun and everyone enjoys, it'll make bank because people will be talking about it.
I went and saw Tenet during the height on the pandemic here in Toronto and it was no problem - we all were spaced out, we all had masks on ...is it the same as when times were 'normal'? No...but it was pretty darn close to feeling like it was normal once the movie started.
I went and saw Tenet during the height on the pandemic here in Toronto and it was no problem - we all were spaced out, we all had masks on ...is it the same as when times were 'normal'? No...but it was pretty darn close to feeling like it was normal once the movie started.
Maybe, but Tenet did not perform as well as expected / hoped. Too many people will avoid the theaters as long as Covid-19 is a threat.
A part of Tenet's problem was that it got mediocre reviews. At 71% on Rotten Tomatoes, it's the lowest rated Nolan-directed film ever.
That’s part of it. But not the big part. I’m posting on a James Bond forum, so obviously not just a “casual Bond fan”, and I would not see NTTD in a theater during the pandemic. They’ve waited this long. Might as well just ride it out and make their money.
MGM appears to be getting closer to formally exploring a sale.
Hollywood giant has enlisted Morgan Stanley and LionTree LCC to serve as advisors in the process, The Wall Street Journal reported, citing unnamed sources. A studio spokesperson declined to comment on the article.
MGM's 25th installment in the Bond series, No Time to Die, was delayed from its Nov. 12 release date to April 2, 2021 as the pandemic has kept many theaters shuttered domestically. The studio had held talks with Apple about picking up the title, with the tech giant said to have considered an offer in the $350 million to $400 million range for the 007 film, sources told The Hollywood Reporter for an Oct. 27 story.
50 million died and they had books and reccord players.
Your point about streaming is a good one. But the Spanish Flu was much worse than Covid-19 is likely to get. While books and reccord players did not offer an experience as close to theatre as streaming does to the cinema, I think it's close enough considering how horrible the pandemic a century ago was.
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Really wish that MGM was not having financial issues again, No Time To Die has already had to deal with enough issues delaying its release.
Depending on who MGM is sold to it could be better for EON in the long run. MGM and their financial problems have been a thorn in the side of EON on too many occasions.
As far as a further delay in release for NTTD, I think that is more effected by COVID than what's going on with MGM.
For those who have postulated that if Apple were to purchase MGM that would automatically mean that NTTD will automatically go to streaming, think again. Just because another entity purchases MGM, I do not believe that would automatically render any contractual/legal agreement that EON had with MGM null and void.
If EON has final say over how Bond films are released it would remain that way.
Any changes would need to be negotiated or at worst, hammered out in court.
Depending on who MGM is sold to it could be better for EON in the long run. MGM and their financial problems have been a thorn in the side of EON on too many occasions.
As far as a further delay in release for NTTD, I think that is more effected by COVID than what's going on with MGM.
For those who have postulated that if Apple were to purchase MGM that would automatically mean that NTTD will automatically go to streaming, think again. Just because another entity purchases MGM, I do not believe that would automatically render any contractual/legal agreement that EON had with MGM null and void.
If EON has final say over how Bond films are released it would remain that way.
Any changes would need to be negotiated or at worst, hammered out in court.
Yeah, I don't think this will change much in short-term. Have seen speculation that Apple could, in fact, want a theatrical release to signal to filmmakers/industry they aren't going to pull an AT&T.
) ) ) There's no mention of Bond on that website but, hilariously, its contact address is a hotel in Manchester which is getting the worst reviews ever on TripAdvisor ) ) )
I don’t understand why EoN/MGM, etc. are still holding onto the April release. In any case, it won’t work: either cinemas are still closed bc we obviously won’t have vaccinated enough people or if they’re open, people will still hold back with going out.
I‘ve said it before: they should just delay it indefinitely and not stick a new label on it every couple of months just to call it all off again just a few weeks prior whilst being in full swing marketing...again.
I don’t understand why EoN/MGM, etc. are still holding onto the April release. In any case, it won’t work: either cinemas are still closed bc we obviously won’t have vaccinated enough people or if they’re open, people will still hold back with going out.
I‘ve said it before: they should just delay it indefinitely and not stick a new label on it every couple of months just to call it all off again just a few weeks prior whilst being in full swing marketing...again.
I guess there's no real reason to postpone until they absolutely, definitely have to- it's not like they're losing any money by holding the April date. The only incentive is to bag another release date before another big film does, but I'm sure there's space.
Nice to see you post by the way August, I feel like I haven't seen you in a while.
I don’t understand why EoN/MGM, etc. are still holding onto the April release. In any case, it won’t work: either cinemas are still closed bc we obviously won’t have vaccinated enough people or if they’re open, people will still hold back with going out.
I‘ve said it before: they should just delay it indefinitely and not stick a new label on it every couple of months just to call it all off again just a few weeks prior whilst being in full swing marketing...again.
I guess there's no real reason to postpone until they absolutely, definitely have to- it's not like they're losing any money by holding the April date. The only incentive is to bag another release date before another big film does, but I'm sure there's space.
Nice to see you post by the way August, I feel like I haven't seen you in a while.
I just think it would be for the best to „call it off“ in time and not when they already are in the middle of a new marketing campaign with lots of new stuff. Because we‘ve seen so much already.
Yes, back at a more frequent posting on here. My Instagram-page I set up in April was really time consuming the last weeks. Had a virtual advent calendar going on with a new collectible behind every day‘s door....Taking a break now from that, probably till the end of the month :007)
) ) ) There's no mention of Bond on that website but, hilariously, its contact address is a hotel in Manchester which is getting the worst reviews ever on TripAdvisor ) ) )
As a manc, I'm curious what hotel was mentioned. Dare I ask?
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As long as things are close to being back to normal, and by normal I mean going to the movies is safe, I think if NTTD is good, people will come out to see it. Bond is a tradition and I believe people will have a hunger to get back to the traditional things of the past that they enjoy. The other thing is we are talking about the general public, not the sampling of Bond fanatics who frequent the AJB and have been obsessing about this film for a multitude of reasons for what seems like years (actually it has been years
I agree with all of this.
I also would like to add, if the film is good then people will see it. This is kind of a simple, "no s***, Sherlock" thing to say, but I think it's important. Post-COVID, if there is a good film in a theater that is fun and everyone enjoys, it'll make bank because people will be talking about it.
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That’s part of it. But not the big part. I’m posting on a James Bond forum, so obviously not just a “casual Bond fan”, and I would not see NTTD in a theater during the pandemic. They’ve waited this long. Might as well just ride it out and make their money.
...not sure if I will ever see the new Bond in theaters...
I'm 100% sure we will, it's only a question of when. Theatre survived the Spanish Flu and that pandemic killed more people than world war one.
As the Joker says: "And here we go"
Was there some other way to watch films back in those days? Was streaming around 100 years ago?
Your point about streaming is a good one. But the Spanish Flu was much worse than Covid-19 is likely to get. While books and reccord players did not offer an experience as close to theatre as streaming does to the cinema, I think it's close enough considering how horrible the pandemic a century ago was.
As far as a further delay in release for NTTD, I think that is more effected by COVID than what's going on with MGM.
For those who have postulated that if Apple were to purchase MGM that would automatically mean that NTTD will automatically go to streaming, think again. Just because another entity purchases MGM, I do not believe that would automatically render any contractual/legal agreement that EON had with MGM null and void.
If EON has final say over how Bond films are released it would remain that way.
Any changes would need to be negotiated or at worst, hammered out in court.
Yeah, I don't think this will change much in short-term. Have seen speculation that Apple could, in fact, want a theatrical release to signal to filmmakers/industry they aren't going to pull an AT&T.
Significant vaccine rollout won’t take place until at least feb, at least and this current lockdown is lasting until then anyway.
I’m prepping myself for a November release.
I‘ve said it before: they should just delay it indefinitely and not stick a new label on it every couple of months just to call it all off again just a few weeks prior whilst being in full swing marketing...again.
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I guess there's no real reason to postpone until they absolutely, definitely have to- it's not like they're losing any money by holding the April date. The only incentive is to bag another release date before another big film does, but I'm sure there's space.
Nice to see you post by the way August, I feel like I haven't seen you in a while.
I just think it would be for the best to „call it off“ in time and not when they already are in the middle of a new marketing campaign with lots of new stuff. Because we‘ve seen so much already.
Yes, back at a more frequent posting on here. My Instagram-page I set up in April was really time consuming the last weeks. Had a virtual advent calendar going on with a new collectible behind every day‘s door....Taking a break now from that, probably till the end of the month :007)
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Check it out, you won’t be disappointed
New still. If only this movie came out...
As a manc, I'm curious what hotel was mentioned. Dare I ask?
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