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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,699MI6 Agent
    What, did you skip the bullet time/Matrix course? I thought that was mandatory in the commandos! :))
  • JoshuaJoshua Posts: 1,138MI6 Agent
    edited January 2021
    I think the course must have only been only for the best soldiers and also secret. I never heard of it and neither did my friend!

    I've looked at the article. It said that the robber was wearing a balaclava and had a cloth covering his mouth?!

    I am not sure why the robber would need to cover his face with a cloth when he was wearing a balaclava?!

    Perhaps he had the balaclava on upside down?!

    Or even back to front?
  • crazycanuckcrazycanuck Posts: 15MI6 Agent
    Hey I'm a younger guy. Current Canadian Forces. Just completed my trades training this summer so still brand spanking new :)
  • JoshuaJoshua Posts: 1,138MI6 Agent
    Good luck with your new career crazycanuck.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,699MI6 Agent
    Yes, good luck with your military career.
    What "trade", or should that be service branch and specialisation, are you in/doing?
  • crazycanuckcrazycanuck Posts: 15MI6 Agent
    Joshua wrote:
    Good luck with your new career crazycanuck.

    Thank you !
  • crazycanuckcrazycanuck Posts: 15MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    Yes, good luck with your military career.
    What "trade", or should that be service branch and specialisation, are you in/doing?

    I'm a combat engineer :)
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,699MI6 Agent
    Really? I was a combat engineer back in the day when I did my national service.
  • 00730073 COPPosts: 977MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    Really? I was a combat engineer back in the day when I did my national service.

    We called combat engineers "apes" or "orangutans", because hauling all those antitank mines stretch their arms. :)) :)) :))
    "I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
    -Mr Arlington Beech
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,699MI6 Agent
    :))
  • crazycanuckcrazycanuck Posts: 15MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    Really? I was a combat engineer back in the day when I did my national service.

    Ey CHIMO! (not sure if engineers outside of Canada say this lol)
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,699MI6 Agent
    I don't even know what that means....

    Do ingeneers still use Bailey bridges?
    A few days before new years there was a horrible mud slide in the south-east that destroyed some houses and twelve people were lost. Combat engineer helped the rescue effort by supplying a Leguan bridge. Those were new when I was serving. In all the sadness it was nice to see my old service on the news.
  • JoshuaJoshua Posts: 1,138MI6 Agent
    I don't know much about the engineers.

    They were never seen.

    They were too busy smoking dagga!


    (I'm joking!) :))
  • crazycanuckcrazycanuck Posts: 15MI6 Agent
    Chimo is an Inuit greeting meaning "I am friendly". It sorta is the unofficial motto for Canadian engineers. I'm guessing it's just a Canadian thing :))

    I think we got rid of Bailey bridges in the 90s (way before my time lol). Primarily medium girder birdge as well as a bit of acrow now

    I had to google leguan bridge. I've seen videos of mechanized bridge layers but never seen one in action in real life. All the bridges builds I was involved in were built with 100% Sapper power
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,699MI6 Agent
    I worked in Bailey bridges in the early 90's, but it makes sense that they are no longer in use since the type of bridge is from WWII. I did see Leguan bridge in use once. It's quite sight, especially for some who had worked for days building Bailey bridges! Just one guy pressing button and a truck places a bride in front of itself....
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    Number24 wrote:
    a truck places a bride in front of itself....

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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,699MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    Number24 wrote:
    a truck places a bride in front of itself....

    C-71-article-1408754-long-teaser-group-long-teaser-image.jpg

    I have a love/hate relationship with Autocorrect :))
    And with brides and bridges, but I'll cross them when I get that far :D
  • superadosuperado Regent's Park West (CaliforniaPosts: 2,651MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    Number24 wrote:
    a truck places a bride in front of itself....

    C-71-article-1408754-long-teaser-group-long-teaser-image.jpg

    They are pretty strong willed!
    "...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,699MI6 Agent
    edited December 2021

    I found an image I liked. It's from a bit before my time, probably between 1869 and 1905 (but most likely earlier). It's an advert for meat extract and the German text says: "Special troops. Norwegian jaegers on skiis".




  • 00730073 COPPosts: 977MI6 Agent

    Yup, ski troops! They are "special" 😉

    I started my career in one of our Jäger battalions, our "Memorial Battle" was the the Battle of Kivinebb 11th. of March 1555, in which Jöns Månsson Ulfsparre and his 500 strong ski troops defeated Ivan Grigoryevich Bibikov and his 13 000 militiamen sent on an punitive expedition cross the border.

    Oh, Ulfsparre did have some 60 cavalry, but that's just something you had to have in army those days, not much use in the forest and snow.

    "I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
    -Mr Arlington Beech
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,699MI6 Agent
    edited December 2021

    I think the term "special troops" carried a different meaning in the past. More "non-standard" than "elite". Railroad building troops and messenger pigeon maintainance troops were also special troops I believe.

    But back in the 19th century ski jaegers were sort of "elite", having better recruits and they were the first to be issued rifles and "camouflage" uniforms.

  • 00730073 COPPosts: 977MI6 Agent

    I hope you're right, I'd hate to think that they were/are thought as "special" in the connotation of Special Olympics... 🙃

    "I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
    -Mr Arlington Beech
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,699MI6 Agent

    Only some of them after the battles ....😟

  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,699MI6 Agent
    edited January 2022

    The new US camouflage uniforms have been criticized for not fitting in with any surroundings. This is clearly wrong:



    I dare you to find surroundings where the new Belgian unform works as well as the American ACU does in that couch! 😁


  • OrnithologistOrnithologist BerlinPosts: 583MI6 Agent

    Did not know that jaeger is used as a loan word to describe a certain class of troops. Or is it only used specifically when referring to those German units?

    As for soldiers on skis, I was never in the military myself, but am pretty sure that our German Gebirgsjäger are considered an elite troop. They are known for accepting only the fittest soldiers, and of course for providing alternatives for the Sölden stirrup trousers in Spectre.

    "I'm afraid I'm a complicated woman. "
    "- That is something to be afraid of."
  • 00730073 COPPosts: 977MI6 Agent
    edited January 2022

    I can only speak for Finland: Here Jääkäri refers originally to activists who escaped to Germany to receive military training in the Lockstedt camp during the Russian occupation. After basic, the Finnish contingent was formed into Königlich Preussisches Jägerbataillon Nr. 27. Here more information of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A4ger_Movement

    Following is over simplification.

    After a couple of wars and such Jääkäri started to refer to light infantry tasked with attack and rearguard operations in combat as opposed to regular infantry.

    For quite a while (both Dragoons and) Jägers were held in higher esteem, they had sort of elite status, than regular infantry. This was mainly because they were thought as more trust worthy during the wars and were used as spear point in attacks, consequently these units suffered heavy casualties.

    Back in the early 90's when I started my career, so called independent Jäger Battalions had strong esprit de corps, and we didn't think much of the regular infantry. Jäger battalions were smaller, but better equipped than infantry battalions.

    Currently every army soldier is referred to as Jääkäri (and wears a beret), which is sort of a homage to the original Jäger Movement, but as an alumni of the last independent Jäger Battalion, I see it as a dilution of the Jääkäri Spirit, and what it really means to be a Jääkäri (Jaeger, Jäger). But what can you do; everybody wants to be special....

    "I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
    -Mr Arlington Beech
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,699MI6 Agent
    edited January 2022

    Jeger means light infantry, reccon or SF. In Norway it's usually not used for light infantry in modern times because we had very little mechanized infantry, making most infantry more or less light. but internationally most jegers are light infantry. Jager in German speaking countries, chasseur in France etc. was used about mountain troops, airborne troops and other light infantry.

  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,699MI6 Agent
    edited February 2022

    There's a special feature on Norwegian fighter jets. Our runways are on the short side, so our f-16s and f-35s have drag chute fairings.



  • 00730073 COPPosts: 977MI6 Agent


    Currently in Finland we have the army, where everybody and their cousin are Jaegers and then we the Special Jaegers in Utti Jaeger Regiment, who are the main special forces component of the army. So not only do have Jaegers, we have Special Jaegers... 🙄 . More about it here: https://puolustusvoimat.fi/en/-/finnish-special-operations-forces-to-be-consolidated-under-utti-jaeger-regiment

    "I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
    -Mr Arlington Beech
  • 00730073 COPPosts: 977MI6 Agent
    "I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
    -Mr Arlington Beech
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