No Time to Die delayed until October 8th, 2021

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  • Royale-les-EauxRoyale-les-Eaux LondonPosts: 354MI6 Agent
    Maybe Omega have 6 or 7 limited editions lined up for 2022...
  • AugustWalkerAugustWalker Posts: 779MI6 Agent
    emtiem wrote:

    You kind of just did though. Where did ‘key scenes’ come from? And they’re able to do this stuff digitally anyway.

    It states „key scenes“ right in the headline of the posted link. I was just quoting that.

    But anyway, I‘m not taking this serious. The sets probably aren’t around anymore,etc...all these logistics for just putting a new phone in XYZ‘s hand? Nah.

    In 2012 in Skyfall they had to use CG to remove the glove from Bond's hand so he could use his gun with the palm print reader. It would be relatively easy to change a phone in post production.

    That’s what I think they‘ll do if at all.
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  • HalfMonk HalfHitmanHalfMonk HalfHitman USAPosts: 1,987MI6 Agent
    emtiem wrote:
    I see in the news today they are using this latest delay to reshoot some scenes...
    No, not the Brofeld content, but the cel-phone content!
    They are re-shooting scenes involving product placement to show off the sponsors' latest models!

    Personally I think CraigBond already fiddles with his cel-phone too damn much, and should just put the infernal contraption down for a few minutes and watch where he's going. And if they're bored and looking for something to do with this extra time Covid has blessed them with, they oughta start casting the next James Bond actor and preparing the script for Bond26 so there isn't another five year break.

    But maybe I'm the weirdo: does anybody refuse to watch Dr No because the products used in that film are no longer available on store shelves?

    Which scenes are you thinking of that he’s constantly looking at his phone?

    This story in the Sun appears to be more of a guess than anything, and adding in a couple of close-ups of a phone is hardly going to take much effort, I can’t understand why anyone would get hysterical about this. It’s not about anyone refusing to watch Dr No (?) it’s about the phone company possibly asking to have their latest product in the movie in return for promoting the film in their own advertising. Why is that such an upsetting idea?
    You seem to think they can shoot massive multi million dollar movies across continents but would be incapable of shooting some phone closeups and thinking about a script for the next film simultaneously...? Just have a think about this potential situation calmly, it’s really nothing to get excited about.

    Sir you continue to be an oasis of logic and reason -{
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 4,228MI6 Agent
    emtiem wrote:
    Having reshoots of key scenes well over a year after principal photography has wrapped because by the time the movie eventually comes out all tech products from product placement deals will be out of date....

    You couldn’t make this stuff up :)) :)) :))

    You kind of just did though. Where did ‘key scenes’ come from? And they’re able to do this stuff digitally anyway.

    It states „key scenes“ right in the headline of the posted link. I was just quoting that.

    Which would be made up! :) Sorry, I didn't click on the link as it goes to the Mail.
    But anyway, I‘m not taking this serious. The sets probably aren’t around anymore,etc...all these logistics for just putting a new phone in XYZ‘s hand? Nah.

    Yes, they'd just do it digitally if it's even obvious in a mid shot.
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,685MI6 Agent
    Were the rumors of the "gloves" bit from Skyfall ever confirmed, as well as the cost of nearly a million dollars to CGI Craig's hands over the gloves he reputedly wore in the Komodo Dragon scene? If such is correct, then a "simple CGI" may not be so simple after all, nor cheap.

    https://screenrant.com/skyfall-daniel-craig-gloves/
  • JTMJTM Posts: 2,977MI6 Agent
    Gassy Man wrote:
    Were the rumors of the "gloves" bit from Skyfall ever confirmed, as well as the cost of nearly a million dollars to CGI Craig's hands over the gloves he reputedly wore in the Komodo Dragon scene? If such is correct, then a "simple CGI" may not be so simple after all, nor cheap.

    https://screenrant.com/skyfall-daniel-craig-gloves/

    Replacing a device, say a phone, with CGI would be A LOT simpler than CGI’ing someone’s moving hands. Hands and faces are two of the most difficult things for animators to create due to the incredibly large number of minute movements both can do. CGI hands can be made up of hundreds of elements to portray realistic movement. CGI’ing a solid block (phone) would be a walk in the park compared to moving hands.
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 4,228MI6 Agent
    edited January 28
    Gassy Man wrote:
    Were the rumors of the "gloves" bit from Skyfall ever confirmed, as well as the cost of nearly a million dollars to CGI Craig's hands over the gloves he reputedly wore in the Komodo Dragon scene? If such is correct, then a "simple CGI" may not be so simple after all, nor cheap.

    https://screenrant.com/skyfall-daniel-craig-gloves/

    The Komodo dragon scene is, I think, someone getting mixed up- the chances of them having Bond wear gloves with a dinner suit in a casino seem pretty low. The scene it makes sense for it to have happened in is the Jellyfish stalking-of-Patrice-in-the-darkened-skyscraper bit, and I expect it was only in one shot or something like that.
    In fact when you watch that skyscraper fight, Bond is wearing gloves in the car, takes them off to check the gun, then goes inside and hangs onto the lift (no gloves), creeps through the darkened offices to Patrice (no gloves) and puts his gun away, and then when he's standing behind Patrice and fighting him/dangling him out of the window he has gloves on again. We don't see him put them back on. If there was going to be a gloves continuity issue it would be here.

    The person who made that video of the Komodo dragon scene says Craig's hands look weird and big, but they really don't: he's seeing what he wants to see. They look like hands.
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 6,774MI6 Agent
    Gassy Man wrote:
    Were the rumors of the "gloves" bit from Skyfall ever confirmed, as well as the cost of nearly a million dollars to CGI Craig's hands over the gloves he reputedly wore in the Komodo Dragon scene? If such is correct, then a "simple CGI" may not be so simple after all, nor cheap.

    https://screenrant.com/skyfall-daniel-craig-gloves/

    No. It didn’t happen. If it did they would have CGI,d them out of every scene. But you see them quite blatantly. They were certainly never used in the Komodo dragon scenes.
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  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 4,228MI6 Agent
    edited January 28
    Asp9mm wrote:
    Gassy Man wrote:
    Were the rumors of the "gloves" bit from Skyfall ever confirmed, as well as the cost of nearly a million dollars to CGI Craig's hands over the gloves he reputedly wore in the Komodo Dragon scene? If such is correct, then a "simple CGI" may not be so simple after all, nor cheap.

    https://screenrant.com/skyfall-daniel-craig-gloves/

    No. It didn’t happen. If it did they would have CGI,d them out of every scene.

    I wouldn't be so sure, it might have happened in the skyscraper scene, it's hard to be certain. That we don't see Bond putting them back on before he fights Patrice may suggest that they made an error and didn't film that happening and really did lose track of when he was wearing them and when not, equally it could mean the editor chopped that out because they felt we didn't need to see it. Either way they do suddenly appear.

    This photo suggests they may have replaced his hands as he doesn't hold the gun with gloved hands in the finished movie, or it might be a posed publicity shot not actually from when they were shooting a take or an alternate take, it's hard to know.

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    If they did CG his hands in they did an amazing job. Just matching the constantly-changing lighting can't have been easy.
  • HalfMonk HalfHitmanHalfMonk HalfHitman USAPosts: 1,987MI6 Agent
    emtiem wrote:
    If they did CG his hands in they did an amazing job. Just matching the constantly-changing lighting can't have been easy.

    It's just a couple of shots - there's also, as you say, a continuity jump in which his gloves are back on more quickly than he could have possibly put them back on.

    https://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/07/01/daniel-craigs-007-digital-hand-scandal-the-untold-story
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 4,228MI6 Agent
    emtiem wrote:
    If they did CG his hands in they did an amazing job. Just matching the constantly-changing lighting can't have been easy.

    It's just a couple of shots - there's also, as you say, a continuity jump in which his gloves are back on more quickly than he could have possibly put them back on.

    https://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/07/01/daniel-craigs-007-digital-hand-scandal-the-untold-story

    Ah cool; we've come to the same conclusion! :)
    I wouldn't say there's a split second gap and he couldn't possibly have put them on in that time though- there's quite a few seconds where Bond is offscreen after he pockets his gun and we're watching Patrice assemble his rifle. Bond could easily have put them on in that time, it's just a bit strange that we don't get a hint of him doing it. And in your article you say they may have added a shot in the car where he removes his gloves, but I don't think they would have needed to do that as we'd not seen the gloves before that.

    I guess it's possible the shot in the lobby might have had his hands replaced- you could certainly imagine the stuntman doing the jump onto the lift might have preferred to have been wearing gloves!
  • HalfMonk HalfHitmanHalfMonk HalfHitman USAPosts: 1,987MI6 Agent
    emtiem wrote:
    there's quite a few seconds where Bond is offscreen after he pockets his gun and we're watching Patrice assemble his rifle. Bond could easily have put them on in that time

    I own those gloves and I'll have to respectfully disagree on this point :))
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 4,228MI6 Agent
    emtiem wrote:
    there's quite a few seconds where Bond is offscreen after he pockets his gun and we're watching Patrice assemble his rifle. Bond could easily have put them on in that time

    I own those gloves and I'll have to respectfully disagree on this point :))

    Ha! Really, are they silly? Well he is a superspy, maybe coping with bad fashion design is one of his skills :)
  • HalfMonk HalfHitmanHalfMonk HalfHitman USAPosts: 1,987MI6 Agent
    They just take a minute to pull on...
  • GymkataGymkata Minnesota, USAPosts: 3,358MI6 Agent
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    :)) :#
  • Red IndianRed Indian BostonPosts: 412MI6 Agent
    Spectre came out in 2015. If the production company had their act together we should have seen NTTD at least by November of 2019. FOUR years after the previous film...
  • NoiNoi Posts: 535MI6 Agent
    One analyst believes the No Time To Die delays could help the box office, saying there may be "a boom in demand for the cinematic experience — particularly for iconic franchises such as James Bond."

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    https://metro.co.uk/2021/02/16/no-time-to-die-delays-could-be-a-good-thing-for-james-bond-14090984/?ito=article.amp.share.top.twitter
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,133MI6 Agent
    Well, the British PM just said the country can gradually start opening up. The vaccinations are going well in the US too.
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,529MI6 Agent
    Might this just be the usual earlier release in the UK thing?
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  • CheverianCheverian Posts: 1,172MI6 Agent
    Meanwhile Cinemagic just permanently closed all of its locations in the rural (US) state where I live. Regal Cinemas is temporary closed. And other chains are also on standby. When the pandemic eases, there might not be a lot of outlets for all these projected blockbusters currently waiting in cans.
  • GymkataGymkata Minnesota, USAPosts: 3,358MI6 Agent
    yeah, it sounds like AMC will be able to weather the storm for a while but I really wonder on some of these others that are on the cusp of permanently closing (and AMC is still at risk as well). When it's all over with, will people still even want to go to the movies? Will business ever be what it once was? How has the business model permanently changed? Scary stuff.
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  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 2,413MI6 Agent
    and Canada's months behind on the whole vaccine rollout thing.
    If it does come out in the UK in September, I'm going to have to quit hanging out round here until one day next year or after when I finally get the chance to see the movie.
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,685MI6 Agent
    Bear in mind that even with widespread vaccine distribution, the U.S. will likely continue to observe mask wearing and social distancing in some form. The vaccine will offer some protection but not for everyone and it is unclear for how long. So even if life returns to some semblance of normal, it won't be like what it was before for a while.
  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,218MI6 Agent

    Looks like it's now officially opening on 30th September here in the uk.

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  • Gala BrandGala Brand Posts: 1,147MI6 Agent

    Kong doing big business. I said a few months ago that EON should release NTTD in mid-to-late June.

  • Mr MartiniMr Martini That nice house in the sky.Posts: 2,681MI6 Agent

    I do hope No Time To Die opens here in October also. I'm here in California. If everything goes well, we could be fully reopened by June 15th. Lets hope this happens. Then the rest of the United States can follow. I'm so anxious to hopefully get to see this.

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  • LuciusNightmareLuciusNightmare Posts: 99MI6 Agent

    Isn't the issue that a third wave is likely coming to the USA and UK? I know Chile have had a successful vaccination campaign but are still seeing a surge, this is likely due to vaccine resistant variants. If the UK reopens from April-June then numbers will spike by August. Then September gets bad and we hit 1000 deaths a day and are forced into another 'circuit break' lockdown.

    I think Eon need to move up. They know the film isn't going to be as big a hit as normal. The smart thing may be to set a summer release to get ahead of the third wave. However, we are already in April and NTTD's October date is closer than you think. If I was Eon than striking a deal with a streamer is looking appealing. It doesn't need to go exclusively to the service, but could have a hybrid release.

    A good example of this is Top Gun 2. That is scheduled for July 2. It probably won't move as Paramount know it goes to Paramount+ in 45 days. Eon need to get that Apple money asap (at least then the film will be in the green) and have a shorter theatrical window with a summer release.

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    "If I was Eon than striking a deal with a streamer is looking appealing. It doesn't need to go exclusively to the service, but could have a hybrid release."

    We're talking in circles at this point, but why would that appeal to them? They're not out of money, have no shareholders to report to, and have no reason to not sit on this movie until they can wring maximum profits from it. Every single person on this forum could refuse to go see the movie and it wouldn't make a dent in the bottom line.

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