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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,060Chief of Staff

    That's great that you managed to see it. It's a classic.

  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,239MI6 Agent

    It's never shown on telly - a good thing it seems, but just once in a while rubbish like this could be a diversion. They could have on Channel 5 'Christmas Turkeys' - Casino Royale 67, Ishtar, H Hawk and Howard the Duck - that last one had a John Barry score - how? Just how?

    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • JoshuaJoshua Posts: 1,138MI6 Agent

    I am in the position where many of these films are new to me. Today I am going to watch the western film 'Shane'. I have been told that this too is a classic and well worth watching. If it proves as good as 'Psycho' (in a different way of course) then I am in for a treat.

  • JoshuaJoshua Posts: 1,138MI6 Agent

    I found this site. It may be of interest to film lovers. It appears that it is a work in progress but it is still worth a look. I haven't looked for James Bond locations yet so do not know who detailed any information about them is.


    https://www.reelstreets.com

  • JoshuaJoshua Posts: 1,138MI6 Agent

    To add to my last post. Here is location details - then and now - from Goldfinger.


    https://www.reelstreets.com/films/goldfinger/

  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,060Chief of Staff

    I like those kind of sites. Have a look at JAMES BOND IN SWITZERLAND | film locations then & now | documentary - YouTube and more in that series, very enjoyable.

  • JoshuaJoshua Posts: 1,138MI6 Agent

    Thank you. I will.


    I wasn't quite sure if I was going to enjoy 'Shane' as Western films are not really my interest, but actually I found it to be a splendid watch. I think I missed most of its subtle meanings, so had to content myself with a straightforward film about good versus evil.

  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,709MI6 Agent

    Wonder Woman 1984

    I'll skip to the conclution - The sequel isn't as good as good as the first one. The basic theme ("careful what you wish for") is good, but somehow the plot doesn't work too well. I also think the villans are good, but the action scenes don't work for me, they feel too CGI and not physical and exiting enough.

  • GrindelwaldGrindelwald Posts: 1,294MI6 Agent

    Plastposen 3.5/6 , comedy about a man who just needed to throw his garbage out and by accident gets mixed up in a bank robbery case and other mishaps (incredibly dated synth music , hah)


    Batman DKR 5/6 , pretty good


    Burning 2......4/6 , comedy similar to Cannonball films , in this one they drive from Norway to Murmansk , Russia

  • GrindelwaldGrindelwald Posts: 1,294MI6 Agent

    I hear the new Kombat movie is as bad as MK2 , only difference better SFX

    Coming 2 America and Bill & Ted 3 isn't all that from what I've heard (maybe it's blessing they won't attempt new He-Man movie......)

  • GrindelwaldGrindelwald Posts: 1,294MI6 Agent

    Rigg prolly did those mini films because of $ (that was also main reason she did the failed sitcom in '73 : Hwood paid way more than UK)

  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 3,907MI6 Agent

    Grindelwald, are you referencing my post about Diana Rigg's MiniKillers super8 movies way back here on pg348. ?

    Have you seen them? Can't believe they paid her much! and this after two seasons of the Avengers and OHMSS!

    What was this sitcom she did? I don't know anything about that. Was she any good as a sitcom actress?

  • CoolHandBondCoolHandBond Mactan IslandPosts: 6,033MI6 Agent

    Joshua, Shane is a great movie. I love westerns, if you haven’t seen The Magnificent Seven (1960), not the recent remake, take a look, it’s my favourite film of all time, and has a pre-Man From UNCLE Robert Vaughn as a gunfighter who has lost his nerve.

    Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
  • Golrush007Golrush007 South AfricaPosts: 3,418Quartermasters

    I recently got my hands on the Masters of Cinema blu-rays of Shane and High Noon. Both are films that saw a number of years ago but am excited to revisit. I watched High Noon first and found it to be as thrilling as I did first time round. I enjoy the simplicity of its plot and the building of tension as noon approaches and the action draws near. Nice and short, well paced, beautiful to look at and some great performances. Also a memorable score by Dimitri Tiomkin. The 'Do Not Forsake Me o My Darling' has been firmly stuck in my mind since watching the film several days ago.

    I hope to also get round to rewatching Shane soon. I do have a massive list of films to watch so it's always a struggle to prioritise. Shane was a film that didn't make much impact on me first time around. I recognised that it was a classic, but it also didn't particularly get me excited. I hope that a rewatch with fresh eyes will hit the spot.

    @Joshua, like you I never used to be into the western genre, but once I really started watching them I got totally hooked and I would now say its possibly my favourite genre.

  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,709MI6 Agent

    If you haven't seen it yet, Joshua, I highly reccomend "Once upon a time in the West" by Sergio Leone. His Dollars trillogy is also very good, perhaps especially "The good, the bad and the ugly".

  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 3,907MI6 Agent

    Shane features another great supporting performance from character actor Elisha Cook, what I figured were the best scenes in the film.

    Alan Ladd always seems to get upstaged by character actors in his films, William Bendix stole the film in both the Glass Key and the Blue Daliah

  • JoshuaJoshua Posts: 1,138MI6 Agent

    Thank you all for the recommendations. I have written them all down and will definitely add them to my list. I have already got the 'Spaghetti Western' collection. I bought it from a charity shop for £5 but have not had time to watch any of the films yet. I was told they were good and that recommendation plus the price meant I could not leave them on the shelf of the shop! Without checking, I'm not sure if 'Once Upon A Time In The West' is one of the films.

    One of the best scenes from a film which is full of them is that where Tory goes into town. Here it is:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWnDVW07_1c

  • Golrush007Golrush007 South AfricaPosts: 3,418Quartermasters
    edited May 2021

    I reiterate the other members' recommendations for the Leone films. It sounds to me like the Spaghetti Western collection you have would just include the Dollars trilogy, and possibly the later Duck You Sucker (aka Fistful of Dynamite). Once Upon a Time in the West (my favourite western by the way) is usually not packaged with those films as it is owned by a different studio to the others.

  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,709MI6 Agent
    edited May 2021

    Of the more recent westerns you should watch "Dances with wolves" (1990), "Unforgiven" (1992) and "True grit" (2010). 🤠

  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 3,907MI6 Agent
    edited May 2021

    awesome Gymkata! that makes your list of essential Marvel Cinematic universe films look concise in comparison

    but you don't include Who Shot Liberty Vallance, which advances the rather heady argument that democracy is dependent on literacy.

    That transition between the lawless settler period and the rise of a more formal civilization (usually heralded by the arrival of the railway) is the backdrop to more than a few. Beyond the trappings of the hats and the horses and the sixguns, there's a sort of Origin mythology going on.

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    btw, what was the name of the actor who played the Gary Cooper character in Outland? names right on the tip of my tongue but cant quite seem to remember...

  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 3,907MI6 Agent

    your lists are positively encyclopedic, and that's a good thing.

    I counted 63 films in your recommended Western list, enough to keep a filmbuff busy for a year!

    bonus points if you make such lists off the top of your head without having to look anything up.

  • The Red KindThe Red Kind EnglandPosts: 3,119MI6 Agent

    That is a comprehensive list G. ! No BTTF3 though..?😉

    "Any of the opposition around..?"
  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 3,907MI6 Agent
    edited May 2021

    I admire your the way you use your braincells @Gymkata , reminds me of how whenever anybody asks me something work related I have to look it up, but if its the correct wording of a Monty Python quote I got it safely stored away in a priority braincell.

    for the record, that list of essential Marvel Cinematic Universe films I recall ended up including 22 out of 24 films released up til that point, and makes a good standard reference for where the various characters and ongoing plot threads first appeared, also encyclopedic.

    EDIT: just went looking for it, here it is

  • JoshuaJoshua Posts: 1,138MI6 Agent

    @Gymkata I am sure I have seen a few of the films you have listed for sale in the charity shops. This was recently so they are possibly still there. They only cost £1 each on DVD. What I do is buy a few films watch them and - if I don't care for them, I gift back to the charity shop. TV here show western films every day. There was one on this afternoon (which I missed) called 'The Guns of Fort Petticoat'. I don't know if I should make a note of watching that one the next time it is on?


    I have looked and yes the Spaghetti western set is 'A Fistful of Dollars' 'A Few Dollars More' and 'The Good The Bad And The Ugly'.

  • JoshuaJoshua Posts: 1,138MI6 Agent

    Bond Films are shown almost all the Time on TV also in the UK. Although they show some a lot more than others.

  • Golrush007Golrush007 South AfricaPosts: 3,418Quartermasters
    edited May 2021

    Gymkata has provided an excellent list of Westerns that any film fan should check out. I'm not sure I'm giving anything new here, but this is my persnoal list of top 20 favourite films of the genre.

    • ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST
    • THE SEARCHERS
    • THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY
    • THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE
    • WINCHESTER '73
    • TRUE GRIT (2010)
    • UNFORGIVEN
    • RED RIVER
    • THE GUNFIGHTER
    • BEND OF THE RIVER
    • HIGH NOON
    • RIO BRAVO
    • THE OUTLAW JOSEY WALES
    • MCCABE & MRS MILLER
    • JOHNNY GUITAR
    • FORT APACHE
    • STAGECOACH
    • FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE
    • THE BIG COUNTRY
    • THE WILD BUNCH


  • Golrush007Golrush007 South AfricaPosts: 3,418Quartermasters


    I would agree with your comment regarding For a Few Dollars More Gymkata, but I would also add that to me it is the quintessential example of a spaghetti western. Leone undoubtedly improved with his next two films, however, they venture more into epic territory, which basically all other spaghetti westerns don't do. Therefore, I regard For a Few Dollars More as the 'typical' spaghetti western at its very best. In my opinion, another couple of top contenders for best spaghetti western are Sergio Corbucci's The Great Silence and The Mercenary.

    It was the spaghetti westerns that first pulled me into the western genre, although as time has gone by I've developed a greater affection for the American originals...ie the films of Ford, Hawks, Mann etc.

  • chrisno1chrisno1 LondonPosts: 3,182MI6 Agent
    edited May 2021

    @Gymkata

    @Golrush007

    Two great lists guys. I could debate endlessly with you the merits / demerits of some of those movies.

    Among many other films you don't list, I'd only like to mention DJANGO (1966) which is fabulous, John Wayne's glorious swansong THE SHOOTIST (1976) and Michael Winner's bleak CHATO'S LAND (1972).

    CARRY ON COWBOY (1965) anybody ?

  • CoolHandBondCoolHandBond Mactan IslandPosts: 6,033MI6 Agent

    Loving these lists. I always like to refer my lists as favourites rather than best because I know that technically some movies are better made than others but sometimes less enjoyable.

    My top 20 (in no particular order) would be: (omitting modern day westerns)

    The Magnificent Seven (1960)

    Butch Cassidy And The Sundance Kid

    Pat Garrett And Billy The Kid

    The Shootist

    Big Deal At Dodge City aka A Big Hand For A Little Lady

    A Fistful Of Dynamite aka Duck, You Sucker

    True Grit (1969)

    The Man Who Shot Liberty Vallance

    3.10 To Yuma (1957)

    The Wild Bunch

    Shane

    Once Upon A Time In The West

    EL Dorado

    A Fistful Of Dollars

    The Man From Laramie

    The Searchers

    My Darling Clementine

    Rio Bravo

    High Noon

    The Good The Bad And The Ugly

    Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
  • JoshuaJoshua Posts: 1,138MI6 Agent
    edited May 2021

    @Barbel. I pressed the 'New Discussion' button again by mistake again! Could you please put my message here? Thank you.


    EDIT. I tried to post my comment but even thoogh I pressed 'post comment' the message said I had to wait for it to be approved?!


    I will try once more. You will know why the same message keeps appearing for approval if it doesn't work!

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