Goldeneye gardening comment
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Hi peeps, I've been told this before but can't remember it now.
Was watching goldeneye today (personal fave) and was wondering what relevance the 'do any gardening?' comment had.
I did here something about it being more explained or apparent in the book.
Anyone able to explain it?
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Was watching goldeneye today (personal fave) and was wondering what relevance the 'do any gardening?' comment had.
I did here something about it being more explained or apparent in the book.
Anyone able to explain it?
Ta ,
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It takes place when Bond first meets Wade. Bond approaches Wade and says something and Wade is supposed to respond with a certain answer (I forgot Bonds question and Wades answer). Bond also has to check for a tattoo of a Rose on Wades butt cheek. After Wade shows Bond the flower tattoo, Wade asks Bond if he does any gardening.
Here's the exchange between Bond and Wade:
James Bond: In London, April's a spring month.
Jack Wade: Oh yeah? And what are you, the weatherman? I mean, for crying out loud... another stiff-ass Brit, with your secret codes and your passwords. One of these days you guys are gonna learn just to drop it.
Jack Wade: Come on, my car's over there.
James Bond: After you.
Jack Wade: Thank you.
[comes up after Jack Wade and traps him with the car door and draws his gun on him]
James Bond: Like you said, "Drop it".
Jack Wade: All right, in London April is a spring month, whereas in St. Petersburg we're freezing our butts off. Is that close enough for government work?
James Bond: No. Show me the rose.
Jack Wade: Please, no.
[Bonds shoves his gun into Wade]
Jack Wade: Alright, alright, alright.
[Wade unbuckles his pants and shows him his rose tattoo with the name "Muffy"]
James Bond: Muffy?
Jack Wade: Third wife.
Then Wade asks Bond if he does any gardening.
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Given the rose is connected with his third wife, maybe Muffy is the gardener and she has conscripted Wade into this pleasurable past time (so I'm told). Once a person gets the bug, all they can do is talk about it - hence Wade's line of questioning.
Alternatively, maybe gardening is an analogy for "tattoo", so Wade is in fact asking if Bond has a tattoo?
Who really knows...
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Hope this helps - anyone else read the novel and member this passage?
The only problem with this theory is that the book was first published two years after Goldeneye hit the big screen. While it's possible that the writers were aware of this other James Bond, he is a landscape archaeologist by profession, not a gardener...bit like comparing an architect with a decorator. I have to think that this connection is purely coincidental.
Hi guys,
I notice it is a bit too late for a reply, however I happened to refresh the movie just now and noticed that very line. Which, I believe, is a referrence to the movie THE LAWNMOWER MAN (1992, therefore 3-years prior to the 1995 GoldenEye), where Pierce Brosnan (aka Dr. Lawrence "Larry" Angelo) experiments on his gardener through series of experiments in order to increase his IQ.
Just wanted to make clear it is no attempt for a bad joke or 007 being "boring".
Wade was indeed into gardening - as someone mentioned up thread, he was holding a small magazine when Bond approaches. A few gardening magazines were made for the film, both in Russian and, naturally, showing heaps of images of flowers. One of the magazines translates as a '1994 annual'. This is the one he holds. There are photos of these props in one of the reference books. Another magazine has strawberries on the cover.
I think it is a reference that Pierce Brosnan was in the Lawn Mower Man
Thread resurrection! Quite apt for Halloween 😁
It’s a really weird and clumsy way to try and give Wade a quirk, but you can’t have a character just turn up and mention the flora around him (‘Banyan Trees’, ‘tobacco plants’ etc.) and hope that people will find it funny or charming, you need to write an actual gag. Wisely they ditched it for TND!
I had never noticed this before, but after reading this thread and watching GE last night, I have to scratch my head. WTF? So half-hearted an attempt at character forming. Was something edited out? A scene in Wade's greenhouse where he ponders the death of the Cold War over his decaying tomato plants or something? Very strange. Another reason for me to dislike Jake Wade, one of the most superfluous characters in Bond movie history.
Makes me wonder once again why the creative minds of the Brosnan era chose to create the Wade character (and once again recycle an EON veteran) instead of just bringing back a Felix with an artificial leg. It seems that at the end of LTK, he was still in active service.
Was it written for Joe Don Baker? He'd obviously done Edge of Darkness with Campbell, and Wade is pretty similar to his character Jedburgh from that, so I wonder if Campbell maybe pushed for a new character rather than Felix.
Maybe it was a sly reference to John Gardner who had written the GoldenEye novelisation and had been the Bond continuation author for 15 years by that point? The name Gardner derives from people who were actual gardeners. 😉
I agree though that it's more likely a clumsy follow-on by Jack Wade after the rose tattoo reveal had planted the seed of gardening in his mind. I suppose it's there to humorously show how badly Wade has misjudged the type of man Bond is. A man that had his meals fastidiously made for him by his housekeeper May doesn't do his own gardening either. If he has a garden at all then that's a job for the hired help.