'Sean Connery Cameo Was Considered'

Moore Than · November 2012

Sam Mendes has stated there was a definite discussion early on about offering the role of Kincade (played by Albert Finney) to Sean Connery. He decided against because he believed it would be too much of a distraction. But then it's very unlikely Connery would have accepted the role even if he was offered it.

Let's assume Connery was offered the role of Kincade and accepted it. A good idea or too much of a distraction? Personally, I agree with Mendes. What do you think?

'Skyfall' Sam Mendes: 'Sean Connery cameo was considered'
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a436141/skyfall-sam-mendes-sean-connery-cameo-was-considered.html

A7ce · November 2012

Not worth it. SC would have been bigger than Kincade, not fair on DC either.

Napoleon Plural · November 2012

I was rather boredly thinking, that would liven things up for sure and would save his last film being Ex League of Gentlemen. But if I loved the film it would be a distraction. It might even give way to the 'Is the DB5 Connery's car? Is Bond a codename?' type rubbish.

zaphod · November 2012

A7ce wrote:

Not worth it. SC would have been bigger than Kincade, not fair on DC either.

quite literally 'bigger' and would have made DC look like a Dwarf !

Thunderbird 2 · November 2012

I think its a terrible idea.

The idea of Sir Roger making a cameo appearance, say as a retired offical Bond consults in London might have been a nice touch - he can play subtle when required. As to Sir Sean? He's made his Bed with Bond and walked away from it a long time ago. To me the whole Skyfall Lodge sequence didn't add up on several levels. As Nap has pointed out, enough people have been thoroughly confused with the Aston's origins, which M is this M and "where are they based now?" elements already.

When a Bond actor leaves the stage, it is prob best he leaves his back catalogue as his legacy to the Film Library..

Napoleon Plural · November 2012

How bout having his home in Australia? Then you could have George Lazenby in the role, 'G'day! Welcome to Oz!!'

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Jarvio · November 2012

I'm glad this didn't happen. I agree with the director - it would have been WAY too distracting. Plus unfair on craig, as SF is craig's defining moment as bond IMO.

Napoleon Plural · November 2012

But all the Bonds playing backgammon in the floating casino background. That would have been cool.

Sir Miles · November 2012

Connery for the role of Kincade would have been a terrible idea and would have ended up being a major talking point and therefore would have detracted from the film....Finney is masterly in the role anyway....

Barbel · November 2012

Napoleon Plural wrote:

But all the Bonds playing backgammon in the floating casino background. That would have been cool.

Agreed, that would have been a moment to remember. It would have to have been very underplayed.

Shady Tree · November 2012

Re: Cameo as Kincade

I doubt that Connery would have come out of retirement, especially not for the Bond franchise, but IMHO it would have been great to see him play Kincade. Craig is well enough established as a successful Bond not to have been threatened; and actually, despite the iconographic significance which would have attached to Connery's cameo in the anniversary year, his performance would likely have recalled some of his post-Bond roles more than Bond itself, esp. Malone in 'The Untouchables' and Indiana Jones's father in 'The Last Crusade'. (And maybe a Connery Kincade would have had more espionage sense than to shine a torch and give away his whereabouts to Silva!)

Barbel wrote:

Napoleon Plural wrote:

But all the Bonds playing backgammon in the floating casino background. That would have been cool.

Agreed, that would have been a moment to remember. It would have to have been very underplayed.

It's the fact that all the Bond actors are still alive which would have made such a gag possible in theory but, to put it bluntly, this won't always be the case, so a fiftieth anniversary collective cameo was a missed trick. But again, I doubt Connery would have agreed. I also suspect that Brosnan would have been reluctant to participate, given his disappointment with his dismissal from the series after DAD.

minigeff · November 2012

Connery as Kincade? **** idea, glad Sam saw the light.

LOO7K OUT · November 2012

minigeff wrote:

Connery as Kincade? **** idea, glad Sam saw the light.

Agree 100% it would have been an awful fan w*nky idea. Maybe if all the bonds who would have agreed to it, had a slightly out of focus Casino table scene that only the fans would have known about might have been fun, but that's all. Even then, we don't need it. Daniel Craig is a superb Bond and needs no stunt casting to improve his films.

Glad we have at least 2 more DC films to look forward to. If the new 2 year cycle works out, hopefully we'll get 6 in total out of him.

zaphod · November 2012

LOO7K OUT wrote:

minigeff wrote:

Connery as Kincade? **** idea, glad Sam saw the light.

Agree 100% it would have been an awful fan w*nky idea. Maybe if all the bonds who would have agreed to it, had a slightly out of focus Casino table scene that only the fans would have known about might have been fun, but that's all. Even then, we don't need it. Daniel Craig is a superb Bond and needs no stunt casting to improve his films.

Glad we have at least 2 more DC films to look forward to. If the new 2 year cycle works out, hopefully we'll get 6 in total out of him.

If we do it will make Roger in AVTAK look young by comparison

Agent82 · November 2012

Finney did great at the role, so the film is lacking nothing with regard to him. I don't know that I like the idea of Connery re-emerging in this way, but I would like to have some I dunno, closure, to the Connery involvement in the series. I don't mean film wise. It just seems like SC is very bitter about the role, and perhaps rightly so. But, I'd like to see him reconcile (for lack of a better term) with us - the fans - in some perhaps selfish way. Maybe grant an exclusive final tell-all to MI6HQ or one of the other big fan sites. Just an idle thought, I suppose.

Thunderpussy · November 2012

Agent82 wrote :

It just seems like SC is very bitter about the role, and perhaps rightly so. But, I'd like to see him reconcile (for lack of a better term) with us - the fans - in some perhaps selfish way. Maybe grant an exclusive final tell-all to MI6HQ

What about the #1 Bond fan site AJB -{
I didn't know there where any other Bond sites.

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But it would be nice to get a great interview from him. B-)

thegoldengunguy · November 2012

Personally I don't think SC would have been TOO much of a distraction. For the first few minutes perhaps it would be but once they started getting down to business I don't think it would have been so distracting that the quality of the film would have been affected. I would have LOVED to have seen Connery there! It was a perfect role for him and would have made a FLAWLESS swan song for his role in Bond and in cinema altogether.

A7ce · November 2012

thegoldengunguy wrote:

Personally I don't think SC would have been TOO much of a distraction. For the first few minutes perhaps it would be but once they started getting down to business I don't think it would have been so distracting that the quality of the film would have been affected. I would have LOVED to have seen Connery there! It was a perfect role for him and would have made a FLAWLESS swan song for his role in Bond and in cinema altogether.

In which case i'd see SC play the same role as he did for Indy's dad - not sold on it.

I think there should be that time travel science rule that no two Bonds can be in the same scene at the same time, or film.

Virgil37 · November 2012

The writers had Connery in mind when they wrote the part of Kincade, IMHO...come on, the old scottish guard in the Bond house, white hair, beard...It would have been just perfect. The Aston Martin there, the graves...However, it´ll forever be one of those "what could have been if"...If Connery could ever return for once to the Bond series, that was it.
However, Albert Finney is also a great actor, and he´s also perfect for the part.

Gassy Man · November 2012

I'd have been fine with it, but I would have preferred if they were to work in a Connery cameo a more obvious choice as one of Bond's relatives. If Connery did not want to act, it could have been as simple as a series of photos that M thumbs through in a book while trying to steady her nerves for the confrontation with Silva. She could have stopped, looked at the photo of Connery as an elder Bond, did a bit of an amused reaction, and then moved on. That's all it would have taken. A flashback might even have been better, especially if it would have given insight to something that Craig's Bond does later in the film. Imagine Bond as a boy, reflecting on some painful lesson that Connery, his great grandfather taught him, and then seeing an element of that come out in the confrontation with Silva.

Albert Finney was wonderful as Kincade, so I would have wanted him to remain in that role.

Thunderbird 2 · November 2012

Gassy Man wrote:

I'd have been fine with it, but I would have preferred if they were to work in a Connery cameo a more obvious choice as one of Bond's relatives. If Connery did not want to act, it could have been as simple as a series of photos that M thumbs through in a book while trying to steady her nerves for the confrontation with Silva. She could have stopped, looked at the photo of Connery as an elder Bond, did a bit of an amused reaction, and then moved on. That's all it would have taken. A flashback might even have been better, especially if it would have given insight to something that Craig's Bond does later in the film. Imagine Bond as a boy, reflecting on some painful lesson that Connery, his great grandfather taught him, and then seeing an element of that come out in the confrontation with Silva.

Albert Finney was wonderful as Kincade, so I would have wanted him to remain in that role.

Sorry, but I am seeing an unfortunate parallel to the Batman films with all this. (All of them.) I also doubt we will see Kincade again, its hard to imagine how they could squeeze him into a future story with credibility. - It was dancing through hoops a little as it was here!

Lexi · November 2012

minigeff wrote:

Connery as Kincade? **** idea, glad Sam saw the light.

Indeed.... it would be like a slap in the face to Craig... and like other's have said, too much of a distraction/talking point.

Thought Finney was fantastic... and best left that NO past Bond's make any cameo's.

Moore Than · November 2012

Minor quibble on my part, Kincade's (Albert Finney) lack of Scots accent. Being as he's been the gamekeeper at the Lodge for so many years. Anyone really bothered by this?

Lexi · November 2012

Moore Than wrote:

Minor quibble on my part, Kincade's (Albert Finney) lack of Scots accent. Being as he's been the gamekeeper at the Lodge for so many years. Anyone really bothered by this?

Not really... I emigrated to Canada when I was 18 and lived there for 10 years (since moved back) but I don't have a Canadian accent... quite the reverse.

We don't know the backstory of Kincade... he could have moved to Skyfall when he was in his late 20's for all we know... and he wouldn't suddenly pick up the accent.

Moore Than · November 2012

Lexi wrote:

Moore Than wrote:

Minor quibble on my part, Kincade's (Albert Finney) lack of Scots accent. Being as he's been the gamekeeper at the Lodge for so many years. Anyone really bothered by this?

Not really... I emigrated to Canada when I was 18 and lived there for 10 years (since moved back) but I don't have a Canadian accent... quite the reverse.

We don't know the backstory of Kincade... he could have moved to Skyfall when he was in his late 20's for all we know... and he wouldn't suddenly pick up the accent.

Indeed, we don't know Kincade's backstory. And I wouldn't expect him to have suddenly picked up the accent and talk like "Och aye the noo"

But given he's lived there so long I would expect something of a Scots accent. But as I said it's a minor quibble.

As for Canada. I hope it was a great experience for you, Lexi. I had the very good fortune to visit Niagara Falls and the Toronto area a few years ago. Lovely part of the world and the people were nice and friendly.

Vampfox · November 2012

I'm glad it didn't happen cause it would have people talking about the code-name theory again.

bailorg · November 2012

I'd either offer a cameo to all the former Bond actors or none of them.

Not really fair to the other actors to just offer a role to Connery.

Thunderpussy · November 2012

I have to say that I'm glad Sean Connery didn't play Kincade. Much as I
love Connery as an Actor. It would of been terribly Unfair ( Insulting even ? )
On Daniel Craig to have an Icon Like Connery pop up in the last thirty minutes
or so of His Movie.
I'd love if there was a computer screen In Q's office which if you pause the dvd
or something like that you'd see a list of Previous OO's and listing the Previous
actors.

Thunderbird 2 · November 2012

Moore Than wrote:

Lexi wrote:

Moore Than wrote:

Minor quibble on my part, Kincade's (Albert Finney) lack of Scots accent. Being as he's been the gamekeeper at the Lodge for so many years. Anyone really bothered by this?

Not really... I emigrated to Canada when I was 18 and lived there for 10 years (since moved back) but I don't have a Canadian accent... quite the reverse.

We don't know the backstory of Kincade... he could have moved to Skyfall when he was in his late 20's for all we know... and he wouldn't suddenly pick up the accent.

Indeed, we don't know Kincade's backstory. And I wouldn't expect him to have suddenly picked up the accent and talk like "Och aye the noo" But given he's lived there so long I would expect something of a Scots accent. But as I said it's a minor quibble.

As for Canada. I hope it was a great experience for you, Lexi. I had the very good fortune to visit Niagara Falls and the Toronto area a few years ago. Lovely part of the world and the people were nice and friendly.

I can second Lexi's point. I'm from the North East of Scotland, (Dundee area, lived in Pitlochry too) and I have a softer Scottish accent, native to that area. I lived in London for 18 months, and the beautiful city of Bristol is my home. Has been for over a decade now. - I still sound as much like me now, as the day I moved South! Accents are often set by family and upbringing.

I thought Mr Finney did very well. Thankfully the Highland aspects were nicely underplayed, we didn't get the "McTarry sound and style" from CR-67!

'Sean Connery Cameo Was Considered'

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