What DIDN'T you like? (Spoilers duh!)
Blood_Stone
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- Loved the theme song, but it would've more fitting to use for Craig's last Bond movie.
- I know there's the traditional sacrificial lamb for a Bond movie, but it broke my heart that Sévérine was killed off since there was no other "Bond" girl" in the movie due to the twist at the end.
- Silva was such an interesting character. I wish he had more screentime.
- I don't have a problem with gay people, but seeing Bond get fondled against his will was uncomfortable to watch and actually made me cringe in my seat. Before I get called out for this, I'm not one of those conservative fanatics or a hater if you will. I'm totally support gay marriage. They can do whatever they want, but myself being a heterosexual male, I was imagining myself in Bond's position.
- The "villain gets intentionally captured only to escape" cliche is really tiresome.
- I wish they had cut the scene with Mallory visiting Q to help him. It ruined the surprise that he was going to be his new boss IMO.
- Quantum should've been in this. It would've been only logical Silva had ties to them.
- Felix Leiter also should've been in this. At least a cameo appearance. It was odd to watch without him there.
- He wouldn't have done it, but how cool would it have been for Sean Connery to play Kincaid?!!
- It felt like I was watching the sequel to Defiance near the end.
- Hated to see M die. It was understandable, but I would've preferred that she stepped down like Q did back in 1999.
- I know there's the traditional sacrificial lamb for a Bond movie, but it broke my heart that Sévérine was killed off since there was no other "Bond" girl" in the movie due to the twist at the end.
- Silva was such an interesting character. I wish he had more screentime.
- I don't have a problem with gay people, but seeing Bond get fondled against his will was uncomfortable to watch and actually made me cringe in my seat. Before I get called out for this, I'm not one of those conservative fanatics or a hater if you will. I'm totally support gay marriage. They can do whatever they want, but myself being a heterosexual male, I was imagining myself in Bond's position.
- The "villain gets intentionally captured only to escape" cliche is really tiresome.
- I wish they had cut the scene with Mallory visiting Q to help him. It ruined the surprise that he was going to be his new boss IMO.
- Quantum should've been in this. It would've been only logical Silva had ties to them.
- Felix Leiter also should've been in this. At least a cameo appearance. It was odd to watch without him there.
- He wouldn't have done it, but how cool would it have been for Sean Connery to play Kincaid?!!
- It felt like I was watching the sequel to Defiance near the end.
- Hated to see M die. It was understandable, but I would've preferred that she stepped down like Q did back in 1999.
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Otherwise the movie was full of positives so I have little to complain about .
Product placement does not bother me at all but the Omega PO shot in the digger seemed to linger forever!
I don't see much difference between this scene and the scene in TWINE where Elektra has Bond tied up and makes avances to him, but because this is between 2 males this is suddenly a 'problem' for you. To me this feels like 'I don't mind gay people as long as I don't see it.'
I'm with you on this one. The bit where Tanner was supping on his beer also looked somewhat out of place (bearing in mind the drama of what had just happened in the Court Room).
Even though it was just over 2 & a half hours long (and I really did enjoy the film), I actually felt that it should have been an extra 30 mins or so longer! Can't truly put my finger on why though. Maybe it would have potentially enabled further development of the Silva character & a better understanding of what drove him? The build up to his arrival was great, however I think he needed more on-screen time to deliver greater 'menace'.
Can't agree with Blood_Stone about Connery making an appearance though. I think that it would have completely detracted from the film as a whole & Albert Finney did a superb job anyway. There seems little reason to me to have Connery in a Bond film again (controversial perhaps?!?).
DG
"People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." Richard Grenier after George Orwell, Washington Times 1993.
The premise that Bond is allowed to take on Silva without any back up apart from "breadcrumbs" left by Q. It's too removed from reality.
The scene where Bond is stopped in his tracks on the ice by Silva and a henchman between the Lodge and Chapel. Never has the adage "Don't talk, shoot" been more appropriate. Silva has M in his sights, he wouldn't waste any time with Bond. Especially after he saw what Bond was capable of at his Island lair. As Silva himself said on the Island, "When something is redundant it is eliminated." Bond at that moment was redundant.
The torch. Kincade knew the land like the back of his hand and he wouldn't need the torch, especially with the light given off by the explosion and fire at the Lodge. The torch would have made more sense if Kincade had died at the Lodge and M was left on her own. That would have added more drama. Kincade added nothing by being with M in the chapel as he just stood there.
I wholeheartedly agree! NIMBY??
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Also, I seemed to find many of the homages/call backs/tributes far more awkward and clunkier than most here. In the museum scene, it felt like the writers were more making fun of Desmond Llewellyn's Q rather than paying tribute to him, which I found rather cringeworthy.
I'm also in the camp that sees absolutely no reason to attempt to return to "the formula". Therefore, the ending caused me to roll my eyes more than most here, I would suspect.
I had a problem with the type of scope magnification on such a short barreled rifle that Eve used. That sort of rifle would have a red dot scope its built for CQB, not sniper work.
Why did Silva have to be captured? With how well his plans seem to go why not just hit M at home since its easy to gain entrance. If he wants it public he could have set up any situation he wanted.
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Still as with "The Hills have eyes " Just keep telling yourself "It's Only a Movie "
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Not true! You may be a LEO, but I suspect you are State, local or perhaps, if federal, an OIG or some such other badge hunter.
Isosceles is used, as stated before by your more elite military and law enforcement agencies. That includes Delta, SEALs, SAS, GSG9, FBI, DEA etc. Read this:
http://www.realfighting.com/content.php?id=143
DG
"People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." Richard Grenier after George Orwell, Washington Times 1993.
The train has 'Out of Service' on the front of it, now you've got nothing to complain about!
One of my major gripes was that I wish severine had lasted a bit longer. She was well played I thought, and wasn't half bad on the eyes either.
The Olympic arms rifle does leave me a bit confused with it being used as a sniping rifle but only having a 6.5" barrel. Ok, so I understand the 'you use whatever you have to hand' but surely it should have been a red dot sight on it, not a scope?
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You're assuming that I don't have personal knowledge of what I'm talking about. I have been trained too for over a decade now. Just because you were trained does not mean you were trained correctly. Are you saying elite units don't use Isosceles? I'm a little confused.
DG
"People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." Richard Grenier after George Orwell, Washington Times 1993.
One thing I do not think I have seen mentioned yet that kind of bothered me was the fact that Mallory clearly did not care for Bond and wanted him to leave. Then he becomes M and seems to have no problem with sending Bond on another mission. WHAT!?
Did Bond somehow gain Mallory's trust between the part where he said "you should retire" and Bond's plan to save M failed and got her killed instead?
I understand what you are saying. However, Bond proved up to the task. Not only that, but Mallory got to witness Bond under fire. Likewise Bond got to witness Mallory under fire. I think they now have a mutual respect for one another born out of combat.
DG
"People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." Richard Grenier after George Orwell, Washington Times 1993.
1. Bond's supposed to be old, tired, worn out. He fails all his tests but basically he does all the Bond stuff when needed. Defeats Patrice in hand-to-hand combat. Takes out five of Silva's bodyguards. Fends off a couple of dozen of Silva's henchmen almost single-handed. It would have been amusing if his aim stayed wonky and it would've increased the suspense.
2. The stolen hard drive as a MacGuffin made no sense. Therre was no solution to the problem except to get the embedded agents unembedded immediately. Even if the hard drive is located, the infrmation may have been downloaded a hundred times. But then Silva's threat would make no sense. And the whole hard drive problem is forgotten half way through the film.
I agree - this is one thing that irked me a lot. Also, I really didn't care for the CGI Kimono dragons - both how they looked and how they behaved. They just seemed terribly out place in a movie that was otherwise firmly grounded in reality (as much as a Bond film could be, that is!). But I think highly of the movie overall, and my complaints are few and minor.
But yes, they were terrible. Jurassic Park was 20 years ago, but the dinosaurs were better than the Komodos. And the scene did remind me too much of the Rancor Monster from Star Wars Return of the Jedi.
I asked several people I know who are shooters and one is in the personal protection business and they all said that they never use the same stance in every situation. Each has it's benefits or drawbacks, including the Modern Weaver and the modern Tactical Stance. The Isoscles does provide the range of motion, but due to being more upright it also more easily exposes the shooter to being hit, and also doesn't absorb recoil as well.
It's not like that. But you did challenge what I personally know to be true. So you certainly can dare, and I hope you do it often. After all, I have been known to "**** things up" from time to time. How I do the "cocking" is another story.
DG
"People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." Richard Grenier after George Orwell, Washington Times 1993.