Sanders & Sanders: Snuff or Chocolate?

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  • The Bond ExperienceThe Bond Experience Newtown, PAPosts: 5,490Quartermasters
    Sturdy but not heavy...wearing them today so will let you know after that...BTW, I wore my Sanders last week (second time wearing them)....and just when I thought they couldn't fall apart more:


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  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,318MI6 Agent
    Wow look terrible - second time lol??

    Yeah give us your thoughts on comfort and sizing after you have blasted them! Hopefully they look and last better then the Sanders!!

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  • BrackleyBondBrackleyBond Oundle, NorthamptonshirePosts: 87MI6 Agent
    It makes you think about all the other products that we buy as investment pieces, and if it is worth the money? 5 years on from Skyfall and my Billy Reid peacoat is still in good condition, my C&J Highbury I've had resoled, but thats because I wear them all the time.

    Maybe it's an idea for future vlogs, how these product last over time, which ones are sound investments, and which ones should we stay clear of?
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,318MI6 Agent
    It makes you think about all the other products that we buy as investment pieces, and if it is worth the money? 5 years on from Skyfall and my Billy Reid peacoat is still in good condition, my C&J Highbury I've had resoled, but thats because I wear them all the time.

    Maybe it's an idea for future vlogs, how these product last over time, which ones are sound investments, and which ones should we stay clear of?

    Thats an interesting topic and one I think of regularly - however not so much in terms of the money but longevity / lifespan.

    There are things that I do baby fair bit e.g. a Tom Ford Cardigan, however something like a leather jacket the more worn the better

    A lot of this stuff is no longer produced also hence once its gone, it really has gone!!
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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    It makes you think about all the other products that we buy as investment pieces, and if it is worth the money? 5 years on from Skyfall and my Billy Reid peacoat is still in good condition, my C&J Highbury I've had resoled, but thats because I wear them all the time.

    Maybe it's an idea for future vlogs, how these product last over time, which ones are sound investments, and which ones should we stay clear of?
    That's a good idea for a Vlog! Since Bond always aspires to wear the best its interesting when that's not always the case with some of his products like the Sanders.
  • sunny01sunny01 Posts: 525MI6 Agent
    I don't get all the bad feedback on the sanders - I have two pairs and have worn them plenty of times with no wear on them at all. I guess its down to whether you leave a heavy footprint or walk lopsided :))
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    sunny01 wrote:
    I don't get all the bad feedback on the sanders - I have two pairs and have worn them plenty of times with no wear on them at all. I guess its down to whether you leave a heavy footprint or walk lopsided :))
    Its just honest experience feedback I guess, mine wore very quickly at the heel but not at the front like David's, I put it down to wearing them in the wrong environment and I am heavy on heels anyway 6' 4" and a bit and nearly 16 stone but I was surprised to see David's worn so much.
    On the snuff versus chocolate, imho screen accurate and screen used can be different, we all know about the filters used in Spectre and this obviously affects clothing appearance on the sanders boots the chocolate looks more similar to what we see on screen I think, though snuff is as we've been told the screen used colour.
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  • sunny01sunny01 Posts: 525MI6 Agent
    It makes you think about all the other products that we buy as investment pieces, and if it is worth the money? 5 years on from Skyfall and my Billy Reid peacoat is still in good condition, my C&J Highbury I've had resoled, but thats because I wear them all the time.

    Maybe it's an idea for future vlogs, how these product last over time, which ones are sound investments, and which ones should we stay clear of?

    I agree its a good idea for a Vlog - what pieces have been the best investment - clearly there are different factors to consider though as it will mean different things to each individual although there will be some common grounds i.e whether its wearability of the product, value for money for the item, or value retained as an investment piece. I have purchased loads of bond jackets and told my wife they are an investment for the future for my boys to wear!!! :D
  • The Bond ExperienceThe Bond Experience Newtown, PAPosts: 5,490Quartermasters
    DONE....I think it's a great topic for an upcoming vlog....
  • The Bond ExperienceThe Bond Experience Newtown, PAPosts: 5,490Quartermasters
    Ok, have to see these are damn comfortable. Have been wearing and walking all day and because the toe is more rounded my wide feet feel like they are wearing slippers. The soles have amazing bounce and insole cushion feels like my best Born shoes. Ordered my usual size and I am glad I did because the fit is dead on. Best of all, no wear and tear on the rubber. Well made quality.
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  • Enjoying DeathEnjoying Death Toronto, ON CANADAPosts: 1,248MI6 Agent
    The Mantis wrote:
    Ok, have to see these are damn comfortable. Have been wearing and walking all day and because the toe is more rounded my wide feet feel like they are wearing slippers. The soles have amazing bounce and insole cushion feels like my best Born shoes. Ordered my usual size and I am glad I did because the fit is dead on. Best of all, no wear and tear on the rubber. Well made quality.
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    Glad to hear you like yours too. I love mine. Still going strong with very little wear on the sole.
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  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,318MI6 Agent
    For UK people http://www.footway.co.uk/ (UK section of Swedish site / company) have the Dark Brown Playboys for a bargain of £124 pounds including UK delivery in the Sale

    Just ordered a pair and sent to UK family (UK delivery only)

    Not many sizes left

    Here is the direct link

    http://www.footway.co.uk/original-dk-brown-03-06.html

    WARNING: the UK sizing conversion is too generous. Use Lesterstore EU to UK sizing guide instead

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  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,318MI6 Agent
    Also 10% off at lesterstore.com for the Steve McQueen Playboy Chukkas

    Code FRIDAY

    Looks like it wont work until tomorrow

    VAT off if outside EU also -{
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  • Westward_DriftWestward_Drift Posts: 3,112MI6 Agent
    edited December 2017
    My Original Playboys in Cognac arrived today.

    First impressions are that this is a very solidly built boot. Even with what everyone was saying, I was surprised at how heavy these boots are compared to other crepe soled boots I have tried.

    I went with my normal size of UK11. They are snug but not too tight on my very wide foot along the vamp and in the toe box. They are a bit tight in the heel, so I will use a shoe tree to stretch them out before putting the boot though its paces.

    Edited to add: I've worn them a bit around the house and they are starting to loosen up already. They are feeling very nice for out of the box. I will still use the shoe trees to stretch them as it's still a little tight on my left foot, but so far things look good.
  • Dirty PunkerDirty Punker ...Your Eyes Only, darling."Posts: 2,587MI6 Agent
    I have been pondering getting a nicer pair of Chukkas and the Playboys looks nice, IMO.
    Two questions; I'm a European size 42/US size 9/UK size 8. If I were to get this should I get my usual size do I need to do any adjustments?
    Secondly, how does the crepe sole hold up?
    a reasonable rate of return
  • DB6DB6 EnglandPosts: 1,196MI6 Agent
    I got the UK7.5/EU41 after speaking to Lesterstore. I’ve had to return them (not cheap
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  • Dirty PunkerDirty Punker ...Your Eyes Only, darling."Posts: 2,587MI6 Agent
    Dufus wrote:
    I got the UK7.5/EU41 after speaking to Lesterstore. I’ve had to return them (not cheap
    Too small, I trust?
    a reasonable rate of return
  • DB6DB6 EnglandPosts: 1,196MI6 Agent
    Nope, too long in the toe; felt like flippers.
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  • Westward_DriftWestward_Drift Posts: 3,112MI6 Agent
    Following up from my previous post, the Original Playboys stretched out nicely and are quite comfortable to wear. They've held up very well after a couple miles walking.

    Dufus, I'm a little surprised it was that big on you. I wear an 11.5US in New Balance trainers and the 11UK OP boots are the same length.
  • DB6DB6 EnglandPosts: 1,196MI6 Agent
    I'm really disappointed they were too long; the return cost wasn't cheap and communication from Lesterstore was slow and patchy. I may order the size down if they get them back in stock.
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  • DUBL_OHDUBL_OH Posts: 88MI6 Agent
    Anyone find a retailer that ships to the US?
  • Westward_DriftWestward_Drift Posts: 3,112MI6 Agent
    edited January 2018
    DUBL_OH wrote:
    Anyone find a retailer that ships to the US?

    Are you referring to the Sanders or the Original Playboy chukkas?

    The Sanders are available from Mason and Sons, from Stuart's of London (most colors) and from Herring Shoes rebranded as the Herring Mustang desert boot.

    The Original Playboys are available from https://www.lesterstore.com/our-brands/playboy
  • DB6DB6 EnglandPosts: 1,196MI6 Agent
    I've been in contact with Playboy Footwear and it seems there has been some confusion over construction. I asked them whether any of the models were Goodyear Welted and the reply has come back: "None of them are Goodyear Welted today"

    So it appears that whilst they were originally goodyear welted, the 'original playboy' chukka boots differ from the 'original' in a significant construction area; not Goodyear welted and so once the crepe sole wears they're done.
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  • Westward_DriftWestward_Drift Posts: 3,112MI6 Agent
    Dufus wrote:
    I've been in contact with Playboy Footwear and it seems there has been some confusion over construction. I asked them whether any of the models were Goodyear Welted and the reply has come back: "None of them are Goodyear Welted today"

    So it appears that whilst they were originally goodyear welted, the 'original playboy' chukka boots differ from the 'original' in a significant construction area; not Goodyear welted and so once the crepe sole wears they're done.

    That is definitely not good news in the long run.

    However, they seem to be much tougher wearing than the Sanders, so it won't be an issue with me for quite some time. After miles of scraping the bottom of the soles on concrete my right shoe has a little wear on the toe. It can't be seen without careful examination.

    Does anyone make Goodyear welted desert boots anymore? Chances are the original patents on the soles have expired long ago.
  • MikeG77MikeG77 Posts: 1,776MI6 Agent
    Dufus wrote:
    I've been in contact with Playboy Footwear and it seems there has been some confusion over construction. I asked them whether any of the models were Goodyear Welted and the reply has come back: "None of them are Goodyear Welted today"

    So it appears that whilst they were originally goodyear welted, the 'original playboy' chukka boots differ from the 'original' in a significant construction area; not Goodyear welted and so once the crepe sole wears they're done.

    That is definitely not good news in the long run.

    However, they seem to be much tougher wearing than the Sanders, so it won't be an issue with me for quite some time. After miles of scraping the bottom of the soles on concrete my right shoe has a little wear on the toe. It can't be seen without careful examination.

    Does anyone make Goodyear welted desert boots anymore? Chances are the original patents on the soles have expired long ago.

    I did a quick internet search and found these.....

    http://www.clarksusa.com/us/originals/originals-mens-boots/desert-welt-sand-suede/p/26127855
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  • Westward_DriftWestward_Drift Posts: 3,112MI6 Agent
    Not bad, but not a crepe sole, so more a desert boot look only.

    Even if the Playboys were Goodyear welted it would be almost impossible to get replacement thick crepe soles in the US. I'm also sure in the days of the old Hutton, the welt wasn't standard so they were probably the only ones with the necessary machines.
  • MikeG77MikeG77 Posts: 1,776MI6 Agent
    Not bad, but not a crepe sole, so more a desert boot look only.

    Even if the Playboys were Goodyear welted it would be almost impossible to get replacement thick crepe soles in the US. I'm also sure in the days of the old Hutton, the welt wasn't standard so they were probably the only ones with the necessary machines.

    So you were looking for a Goodyear welted crepe sole? I didn't even know that that type of sole could be replaced.
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  • Westward_DriftWestward_Drift Posts: 3,112MI6 Agent
    MikeG77 wrote:
    Not bad, but not a crepe sole, so more a desert boot look only.

    Even if the Playboys were Goodyear welted it would be almost impossible to get replacement thick crepe soles in the US. I'm also sure in the days of the old Hutton, the welt wasn't standard so they were probably the only ones with the necessary machines.

    So you were looking for a Goodyear welted crepe sole? I didn't even know that that type of sole could be replaced.

    Apparently that's what Hutton did back in the Steve McQueen days. Someone would have to find a 45-50 year old pair to see if it was indeed Goodyear welted.
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,318MI6 Agent
    New arrival.

    Nicer then the web pics


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  • canoe2canoe2 Posts: 2,007MI6 Agent
    Just updated the post on IA for the Sanders Playboys.

    http://www.iconicalternatives.com/2016/09/30/spectre-sanders-and-sanders-playboy-chukkas/

    One pair I found interesting is the George Cox Pop Boys. Has anyone tried them? George Cox claims they've also been making this style for over 50 yrs.

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    They're 215 GBP on the George Cox site. But British Boot Company has them for 200GBP

    https://www.britboot.co.uk/george-cox-pop-boy-brown-suede-chukka-boot-13341-c2x22655933
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