Pros and Cons: You Only Live Twice

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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    I agree, Pleasance was a rather unique Blofeld -{

    Unique? Perhaps. But good? I don't think so.
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    I agree, Pleasance was a rather unique Blofeld -{

    Unique? Perhaps. But good? I don't think so.
    He was good, just too short.
    * cue "Short people" song*
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    I agree, Pleasance was a rather unique Blofeld -{

    Unique? Perhaps. But good? I don't think so.

    He still looks rather chilling, with the Scar and his Voice in YOLT.
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  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    Yeah. I wouldn't put this Blofeld in my top 10 now that I think about it, but I still think he was a very good villain. Iconic, perfect for the film.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    YOLT is probably the best movie from the entire series
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    no. license to kill and the living daylights are. ;)

    but yeah, you heard it from the man higgins himself.

    YOLT = best bond.

    time to close the thread barbel. we're done here hahaha
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    YOLT has some beautiful Scenery and Shots -{

    And Dalton was a great Bond ja? ;)
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    nein!
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff

    time to close the thread barbel. we're done here hahaha

    Oh, I don't think so! :))
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    YOLT is probably the best movie from the entire series
    I can understand your POV on this one, and at times I might even agree with you (just after a viewing of it). It is wonderful. -{
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  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    I've definitely warmed up to YOLT. I think this was one of the first Pros and Cons thread I've made, and I can see how my opinions have matured. YOLT has the personality, memorable moments and scenes that age well. It may not be in my top 10 yet, but YOLT knocking on it's door.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    I've definitely warmed up to YOLT.
    You absolutely MUST see it on Blu Ray! -{
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  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    I did. I own all the Bond films in Blu-Ray and, as I noted in the Pros, it looks fantastic.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    I did. I own all the Bond films in Blu-Ray and, as I noted in the Pros, it looks fantastic.

    Even without Bluray, YOLT is a beautiful looking Film.
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  • The Wicker ManThe Wicker Man EnglandPosts: 434MI6 Agent
    I love the epic feel to the whole film - the volcano base still fills me with awe and wonder as if I were watching it for the first time.
    The score is simply magical.
    It's just fantastic entertainment.
    I also find it one of the most rewatchable films of the series. -{
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    Me too -{

    Everything about the Film is pretty much near perfect.
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  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,644MI6 Agent
    Me too -{

    Everything about the Film is pretty much near perfect.

    Apart from its lack of fidelity to Ian Fleming in my book. :#
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    I've personally never let that Issue affect my Enjoyment of YOLT.
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  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,644MI6 Agent
    I've personally never let that Issue affect my Enjoyment of YOLT.

    Well, yes James Bond can be enjoyed on many different levels but YOLT was the first major breach from fidelity to the work of Ian Fleming in the Eon Bond film series.
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    It would have been nice too see the deadly Garden of course :)

    Roald Dahl disliked the original Story, which explains why his Screenplay was different.
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Me too -{

    Everything about the Film is pretty much near perfect.

    Apart from its lack of fidelity to Ian Fleming in my book. :#

    I'd hardly call it a lack of fidelity to Ian Fleming. A lack of fidelity would imply they made an attempt at adapting Fleming's story for the film. Roald Dahl took Blofeld and Japan from the novel, and he wrote a completely original story from those few elements. He also took Kissy from the novel, but only in how an original character in the film had the same name in the credits. Since the film is not at all a Fleming story, does that make it bad? It's not like they ruined a Fleming story (which is what I feel CR06 did). I don't think it is fair to judge the films based on how closely they follow Fleming's stories, since that's not the point of the films. If you think Fleming's stories are better than the other writers' stories, I think that's fair. But I don't think it's fair to judge a film for what it is not rather than what it is.
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    If TB had had a slightly faster pace & no problems with the speeded up film in the climax YOLT would have beat it at the box office.
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  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    So you're saying that sales of a film partly depend on the viewer's satisfaction of the film before it?
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    So you're saying that sales of a film partly depend on the viewer's satisfaction of the film before it?
    Back in them days, absolutely!
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  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    True. No doubt Thunderball broke records on it's own merit.
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    TB was largely successful becouse it rode on the Success of GF -{
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    TB was largely successful becouse it rode on the Success of GF -{
    That's certainly a large part of it IMO.
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  • Bondage007Bondage007 AustraliaPosts: 371MI6 Agent
    edited July 2015
    I'm half-viewing this at the moment (on 2nd monitor) to see if it really deserves 2nd bottom spot. No it doesn't, I might make bottom spot.

    Cons:
    - The villiains and henchmen/women are poor imitators of previous villains or done better in future movies
    - Really lazy script ("Ah so". "Stirred not shaken". Japanese fisherman was pointless and ridiculous, Kissy not named)
    - As if they did not name the main Bond girl. At least QoS gave us "Fields"
    - The fights are boring (Bond vs wrestler, vs Hans), not worse than some other films but hardly original.
    - You seriously expect me to believe Spectre 3 and 4 in this movie are Rosa Klebb and Kronsteen equivalents?? Pfft.
    - Kobe docks fight has grand music but nothing really happens
    - Blofeld reveal not as exciting as it was when I was young.
    - Magic monitors showing the helicopter and spaceships in flight

    Pros
    - Aki's death scene
    - Little Nellie
    - Volcano set
    - "Drop in the ocean"
    - Mr Henderson

    In summary there's little in this film I can't get from the rest of the series. The above scenes in pros were exciting to me as a kid...still ok now but not enough.

    I've noticed YOLT is one of the films that generally sits below average in rankings. Not super loved but rarely in the bottom few
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  • Gala BrandGala Brand Posts: 1,172MI6 Agent
    TB was largely successful becouse it rode on the Success of GF -{
    Thunderball was released at the peak of the spy craze, which had more or less run its course by the time YOLT was released.
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