Pros and Cons: Dr. No

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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    Bondage007 wrote:
    stag wrote:
    It's a great film.

    Here's something I thought may be of interest:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcILuuZxIag

    I saw that recently. He doesn't play it very well, or with much emotion.


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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    Good for ol' Monty that he doesn't have to earn his living as a pianoplayer :D
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I love a bit of " Pub Piano", all it needs is " Ave' a Banana " :))
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  • stagstag Posts: 2,083MI6 Agent
    I agree it's a bit 'piano for beginners'

    Here's another example of the tune:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeuhXwvb3V8

    Another piano version this time with a bit more oomph;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s87G1srhyLc

    & lastly for all George Formby fans:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IrQHUM-Pxs
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    stag wrote:
    It's a great film.

    Here's something I thought may be of interest:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcILuuZxIag

    Maybe this is exactly how he imagined the James Bond Theme. :D

    I'm assuming the parts of the tune he doesn't play were John Barry's contributions. Or Norman just wasn't able to play those parts.
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    Matt S wrote:

    Maybe this is exactly how he imagined the James Bond Theme. :D

    I'm assuming the parts of the tune he doesn't play were John Barry's contributions. Or Norman just wasn't able to play those parts.

    Sadly:
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:

    Maybe this is exactly how he imagined the James Bond Theme. :D

    .

    Really?
    The way he plays it, it sounds a bit like this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwrm8UK1VIk
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    IMHO Dr. No is THE perfect Bond movie.
    It's small, it's colourful, it's true to Fleming, and it has Barry's theme.
    FRWL was a bit tame, GF a bit OTT, and from there it just kept growing....
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  • Bondage007Bondage007 AustraliaPosts: 371MI6 Agent
    The attention to detail in DN is amazing and bond is the centre of the movie that's why I've ranked it high this tine, but there's others I enjoy more for the action etc
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    Just watched the first half last night on BD (I started it late & didn't want to finish it sleepy), and the film just gets better with each viewing. The so-so incidental score no longer grates on me, and the plot is just perfect (A touch over the top, but just a touch- no 'save the world' nonsense in the first three). And Wiseman is easily my favourite villain.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    Finished it last night. Just an A+ experience. -{
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    You got the A, just the T, to go. :D
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    Silly silly British man.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    Pros:

    -Possibly the greatest use of the "Bond, James Bond" line. A fantastic kickoff for the series.
    -The scene where Bond kills Dent is classic.
    -Joseph Wiseman plays Dr. No well.
    -We get to see Bond "roughing it", so to speak, like when he hides with Quarrel and Honey in the water (not sure if that was a river or pond).
    -Great chemistry between Bond and Leiter.
    -The dialogue is quite well-written.

    Cons:

    -Not too big on Honey Rider. Yeah, she was the first main Bond girl (Sylvia Trench was technically the first Bond girl in the series), but Ursula doesn't really do much with her character (imo). Let's be frank: she's been topped by at least several others.
    -Feels more like something out of a detective novel than a spy movie.
    -We see Dr. No late in the movie, which limits his impact.

    I quite like Dr. No, and for now give it an 8/10, might give it a 9 with another viewing.
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    We see Dr. No late in the movie, which limits his impact.

    I don't find that a Con, in fact I think it increases his impact since he's been built up and discussed before his entrance which causes anticipation. If the actor, writer and director don't pay off when the character finally appears then this technique falls flat- here, though, IMHO it works just fine.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    It's very little!e Jaws, building up the villain in your imagination
    until the big reveal. :)
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  • blame_thatcherblame_thatcher Posts: 199MI6 Agent
    Pros:
    Most of it.

    Cons:
    Monty Norman's score, especially for ripping off the theme from News at Ten for the tarantula-beating.
  • Smiert-SpionamSmiert-Spionam Posts: 318MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Just watched the first half last night on BD (I started it late & didn't want to finish it sleepy), and the film just gets better with each viewing. The so-so incidental score no longer grates on me, and the plot is just perfect (A touch over the top, but just a touch- no 'save the world' nonsense in the first three). And Wiseman is easily my favourite villain.

    Wiseman is your favourite villain? No mean feat in a series of films renowned for such a great list of bad guys. What makes him stand out for you?

    Another big plus in the film for me is Anthony Dawson as Professor Dent. He's a strangely eerie character and his death at the hands of Bond is one of the best in the series.
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    Wiseman is your favourite villain? No mean feat in a series of films renowned for such a great list of bad guys. What makes him stand out for you?
    Wiseman had no pattern to follow- he created the character cold.
    His sophisticated demeanour somehow successfully blended with his thuggish behaviour modification methods. Now I love Goldfinger, Scaramanga, Sanchez & Carver, but Dr. No just so singular to me...
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    Guys, is there a thread comparing the debut performances of each of the Bonds?
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  • HatThrowingHenchmanHatThrowingHenchman Russia With LovePosts: 1,834MI6 Agent
    I quite like Calvin Dyson's review of Dr.No:
    he says DN is the film that got it all going and is good btw, but all the others that follows have everything DN has PLUS some more elements
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,988Quartermasters
    chrisisall wrote:
    Wiseman is your favourite villain? No mean feat in a series of films renowned for such a great list of bad guys. What makes him stand out for you?
    Wiseman had no pattern to follow- he created the character cold.
    His sophisticated demeanour somehow successfully blended with his thuggish behaviour modification methods. Now I love Goldfinger, Scaramanga, Sanchez & Carver, but Dr. No just so singular to me...

    Agree here. Wiseman had an additional weight of disbelief to suspend, being an Anglo portraying a former Chinese Tong ;) He remains the prototypical Bond supervillain to my mind. Your other choices there are also some of my favorites.
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  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    I quite like Calvin Dyson's review of Dr.No:
    he says DN is the film that got it all going and is good btw, but all the others that follows have everything DN has PLUS some more elements

    I think he put it at #20, just above DAD, on his 2012 ranking. I doubt he'll put it higher when he updates it.
    "Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
    New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
    1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
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  • hehadlotsofgutshehadlotsofguts Durham England Posts: 2,107MI6 Agent
    I've always liked the way that No would walk with his hands behind his back. Not sure why though.
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  • Smiert-SpionamSmiert-Spionam Posts: 318MI6 Agent
    I quite like Calvin Dyson's review of Dr.No:
    he says DN is the film that got it all going and is good btw, but all the others that follows have everything DN has PLUS some more elements

    I think he put it at #20, just above DAD, on his 2012 ranking. I doubt he'll put it higher when he updates it.

    Bit harsh. Definitely deserves a higher rating than that in my view.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I love how Dr No moves, everthing is so precise, even how
    he dabs him mouth with his napkin. All very delicate but
    almost machine like.
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    I love how Dr No moves, everthing is so precise, even how
    he dabs him mouth with his napkin. All very delicate but
    almost machine like.
    Yep. Then the 'soften him up a bit' thing. So incongruous that it rocked. :o
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    "I might as well tell you, since you won't live to use the information. I'm working for.." *tries to fire empty gun*

    "That's a Smith & Wesson. And you had your six." *shoots Dent*
    "Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
    New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
    1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
    Bond actors to be re-ranked later
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Yes a great scene and one added by the film makers as it's not in the Book. I
    Guess they wanted one scene to show how cold Bond could be.
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  • always shakenalways shaken LondonPosts: 6,287MI6 Agent
    I've always liked the way that No would walk with his hands behind his back. Not sure why though.

    perhaps he had been watching the Matrix (Morpheus)?? :)
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