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Re: Your views on John Gardner's Never Send Flowers (1993)?

That's an even handed review there, Barbel.....pretty much sums it up for me (although it is quite a few years ago that I last read this)....
Gardner was anything but subtle around this period in his Bond books, and he did love to tinker with the framework of Bond's world as set by Fleming....
NSF IS a pretty dire novel - and you place it higher in his Bond work than I do - although most of his latter Bond books are all pretty poor....the best thing about NSF..?...the first edition hardback is worth a few bob  ajb007/lol

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Sir Miles wrote:

the first edition hardback is worth a few bob  ajb007/lol

Glad to hear that- though it's my kids who'll reap the benefit since I ain't selling!

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SILHOUETTE MAN wrote:

Any interest?

I'm planning a review series called The Year of the Flower on The Bondologist Blog looking at the unnoticed role of flowers in the phenomenally wide universe of James Bond.

Would really love to hear AJB members' views on this one!

I'm re-reading NSFlowers currently with the Orion books paperback published recently.
I bought several of the Gardner books with the new graphic design covers.
It's more like a detective novel, but I like Flicka von Grusse.

I should say originally I've bought at the time all the continuation Bond novels of
Garner, Benson, Faulks and Deaver.

Bleuville.

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Bleuville wrote:
SILHOUETTE MAN wrote:

Any interest?

I'm planning a review series called The Year of the Flower on The Bondologist Blog looking at the unnoticed role of flowers in the phenomenally wide universe of James Bond.

Would really love to hear AJB members' views on this one!

I'm re-reading NSFlowers currently with the Orion books paperback published recently.
I bought several of the Gardner books with the new graphic design covers.
It's more like a detective novel, but I like Flicka von Grusse.

I should say originally I've bought at the time all the continuation Bond novels of
Garner, Benson, Faulks and Deaver.


Bleuville.


Thanks for your review, Barbel.

I look forward to your views also, Bleuville!

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Barbel wrote:

I read this when it was published, then again a few years ago. It's not my favourite Gardner (that came earlier) but it's not the worst (that came later). Flicka I liked, and Our Man was a shade less cardboard here than in other continuation novels.
I wouldn't mind giving it another read then commenting here, but that would be after I finish The Hobbit... again. (Can't escape Tolkien here, SM!)

Yes I've read all the Flemings and the continuation authors books.
So had read NSFlowers when it came out in paperback, and recently bought the new cover Gardner paperbacks.
So I just finished reading it (2nd time in 20 years) and it's a good way of absorbing the story again.
I also liked Flicka von Grusse who reminds me of the actress Elke Sommer (mit Sherman accent ! )
Because it involves a serial killer, it inevitably gets classed as a detective story.
There are some interesting characters amongst the law officers, apart from the deceptive villain David Dragonpol.

While it mentions a Princess and her sons as targets, they don't spell out Lady Diana-but it's heavily implied.
When they're moving around the castle, there are good descriptions of Dragonpol's construction of a History of Theatre with automatons in famous scenes. You can picture this in your mind.

I think the end fight stopping Dragonpol was a bit "short and sweet", over before it started!
I enjoyed it and would give it 7 out of 10.   
but I'm moving on to Dr. No book now, and Quarrel's word pronounciation!  hex trod nary Cap'n !

Bleuville.

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Bleuville wrote:
Barbel wrote:

I read this when it was published, then again a few years ago. It's not my favourite Gardner (that came earlier) but it's not the worst (that came later). Flicka I liked, and Our Man was a shade less cardboard here than in other continuation novels.
I wouldn't mind giving it another read then commenting here, but that would be after I finish The Hobbit... again. (Can't escape Tolkien here, SM!)

Yes I've read all the Flemings and the continuation authors books.
So had read NSFlowers when it came out in paperback, and recently bought the new cover Gardner paperbacks.
So I just finished reading it (2nd time in 20 years) and it's a good way of absorbing the story again.
I also liked Flicka von Grusse who reminds me of the actress Elke Sommer (mit Sherman accent ! )
Because it involves a serial killer, it inevitably gets classed as a detective story.
There are some interesting characters amongst the law officers, apart from the deceptive villain David Dragonpol.

While it mentions a Princess and her sons as targets, they don't spell out Lady Diana-but it's heavily implied.
When they're moving around the castle, there are good descriptions of Dragonpol's construction of a History of Theatre with automatons in famous scenes. You can picture this in your mind.

I think the end fight stopping Dragonpol was a bit "short and sweet", over before it started!
I enjoyed it and would give it 7 out of 10.   
but I'm moving on to Dr. No book now, and Quarrel's word pronounciation!  hex trod nary Cap'n !

Bleuville.

Thank you for your great review, Bleuville. On the princess point, my UK edition specifically mentions Princess Diana and her two sons Princes William and Harry. Perhaps you just mkissed these details or has the Diana reference been removed for the Orion reprint. Please get back to me on this, as a big NSF fan.  ajb007/smile I've also got the Orion edition, but have yet to read it!

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Is there an element of the early influence of The X Files on John Gardner's Never Send Flowers? NSF was published in the UK on 15 July 1993. The X Files aired in September 1993 (I vaguely remember it airing on UK TV around this time). The novel by John Gardner with its serial killer plot is very prescient - like the David March serial killer who keep the severed heads of the blonde women he kills in jars in his refrigerator as an offering to the Egyptian God Oriris (I think). That's where our member osris got his name!

What do we think - I need to do some more research to see if John Gardner was in fact an X Files fan at all. The literary James Bond continuation is a subject area that never ceases to fascinate me. ajb007/smile

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I would be nice to revive this topic if anyone here is interested in giving their views on this?  ajb007/smile  ajb007/martini

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I like NSF, the Villain of David Dragonpol was one that broke the Mold when it came to traditional Bond Villains. Even though I still think that Gardner should of left the Bond Series before this Point  ajb007/martini

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Silhouette Man wrote:

I would be nice to revive this topic if anyone here is interested in giving their views on this?  ajb007/smile  ajb007/martini

It's bloody awful  ajb007/mad

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AlphaOmegaSin wrote:

I like NSF, the Villain of David Dragonpol was one that broke the Mold when it came to traditional Bond Villains. Even though I still think that Gardner should of left the Bond Series before this Point  ajb007/martini

Glade to hear you like it - it's always been one of my favourites from Gardner.  ajb007/smile  ajb007/martini

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Sir Miles wrote:
Silhouette Man wrote:

I would be nice to revive this topic if anyone here is interested in giving their views on this?  ajb007/smile  ajb007/martini

It's bloody awful  ajb007/mad

ajb007/lol

Can you elaborate on why?  ajb007/lol  ajb007/martini

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Re: Your views on John Gardner's Never Send Flowers (1993)?

He has, post 26 above.

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Barbel wrote:

He has, post 26 above.

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Barbel wrote:

He has, post 26 above.

Sorry, yes.  ajb007/smile  ajb007/martini

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What do we make of this blog review of John Gardner's Never Send Flowers (1993)?:

https://triumphofthenow.com/2015/12/24/ … n-gardner/

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Re: Your views on John Gardner's Never Send Flowers (1993)?

Sounds like he didn't like it much. Very detailed, and he backs up his thoughts.

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Yes, it's an interesting read.

Does anyone know off hand when John Gardner wrote Never Send Flowers? I know that it has to have been in 1992 some time, but I'm interested in the exact month.

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Re: Your views on John Gardner's Never Send Flowers (1993)?

If anyone except you had asked that, I would have advised them to ask you!

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Barbel wrote:

If anyone except you had asked that, I would have advised them to ask you!

Ha ha, I quite understand, Barbel!  ajb007/smile

I will ask around some literary/continuation Bond experts and see if I can come up with an answer. Failing that, I will try IFP.

I know that NSF was published on 15 July 1993 in the UK but sadly not much more than that!

I really regret not asking John Gardner about this in email correspondence though I did ask him about plenty of other stuff. Oh well.

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