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Ive got a feeling he will.  He doesn't seem to be the type to mince his words and also likes to be left in peace etc hence would have confirmed he has quit by now.

I reckon still negotiating

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The consensus is pretty strong that Craig will come back. I wonder what this poll would have looked like a year ago? I know that I've changed from a "no" to a "yes."

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Isn't he contracted for 5 films? In 'Bond on Bond' Sir Roger states that DC is contracted for 5.

Not that that is any form of guarantee of course!!

Just hoping for a more coherent storyline myself.....

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Wilson stated last year "there is no contract" if I remember after SPECTRE

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I think it's an option for a fifth like brosnan with DAD

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No. There's no contract. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/s … aig-837655

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Ah well........who knows then!

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Craig said that he's contracted for one more after Spectre:

'I’m contracted for one more – but I’m not going to make predictions.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/event/a … r-ego.html

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That same article says "It’s six years since he took on the role. He’s signed for one more Bond film after Spectre, but how long can he keep going?"

The Daily Mail is a mess. I'd go with the producer stating, on video, "we don't have a contract." (40 seconds in): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zJlLeD6UfQ

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He had an option on a fifth.  That was in his contract.  So when he said he was contracted for one more, he wasn't lying.  The contract is with him though, not EON.  The ball was in his court, then he handed his cards in.

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Thats makes perfect sense then to Wilsons "we have no contract" comment

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That does tie together. Interesting months ahead then (let's hope it's not years....)

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Asp9mm wrote:

The contract is with him though, not EON.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by this? Are you stating that Craig had the option for a fifth and EON was obligated make the film with Craig so long as he exercised his option?

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Miles Messervy wrote:
Asp9mm wrote:

The contract is with him though, not EON.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by this? Are you stating that Craig had the option for a fifth and EON was obligated make the film with Craig so long as he exercised his option?

Yes and no.  It's a little more complicated than that, time constraints and numerous things come in to play, like box office returns from the previous film etc. 

If Craig was contracted to do 3 films, he has to make them, whether he likes it or not, at the fee agreed upon at the time, with maybe an option for increasing fees dependent on the subsequent films success.  EON can drop him at any time.  He can't drop EON and resign without getting sued and paying a 'get out' fee.  This would be Huuuge!!

With an 'option' for a 4th and 5th, Craig has control over whether he does those films,  EON can still drop him, but also, he can drop them without worry of being sued.  But the terms of Craig's contract regarding status and fee are already set in Craig's favour with this option, and if EON want him back, he can re-negotiate his fee from a much stronger position.  That's why you see his input and elevated Executive Producer (never seen before with a Bond actor, and utterly unheard of) status in SPECTRE as the contract was re-negotiated after the success of SKYFALL.  If Craig resigns from the role, all previous contracts are now void.

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Asp9mm wrote:
Miles Messervy wrote:
Asp9mm wrote:

The contract is with him though, not EON.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by this? Are you stating that Craig had the option for a fifth and EON was obligated make the film with Craig so long as he exercised his option?

Yes and no.  It's a little more complicated than that, time constraints and numerous things come in to play, like box office returns from the previous film etc. 

If Craig was contracted to do 3 films, he has to make them, whether he likes it or not, at the fee agreed upon at the time, with maybe an option for increasing fees dependent on the subsequent films success.  EON can drop him at any time.  He can't drop EON and resign without getting sued and paying a 'get out' fee.  This would be Huuuge!!

With an 'option' for a 4th and 5th, Craig has control over whether he does those films,  EON can still drop him, but also, he can drop them without worry of being sued.  But the terms of Craig's contract regarding status and fee are already set in Craig's favour with this option, and if EON want him back, he can re-negotiate his fee from a much stronger position.  That's why you see his input and elevated Executive Producer (never seen before with a Bond actor, and utterly unheard of) status in SPECTRE as the contract was re-negotiated after the success of SKYFALL.  If Craig resigns from the role, all previous contracts are now void.

That all makes sense to me. Thank you for that explanation.  ajb007/martini

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Matt S wrote:

Craig said that he's contracted for one more after Spectre:

'I’m contracted for one more – but I’m not going to make predictions.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/event/a … r-ego.html


Wilson comes across really well, very relaxed, charming and seemingly open. No sense of Eon in panic/crisis mode. He should do more of the press in my view.

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Ultimately, I suppose it all comes down to what's in Craig's mind, which nobody else can know unless and until he tells them. He's not getting any younger, though, and it seems the longer he waits to make an announcement that he's returning, the more likely he'll just move on.

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Loeffelholz wrote:

Ultimately, I suppose it all comes down to what's in Craig's mind, which nobody else can know unless and until he tells them. He's not getting any younger, though, and it seems the longer he waits to make an announcement that he's returning, the more likely he'll just move on.

Or EON will move on. As much as they want Craig to return, I can't imagine they'll wait on him indefinitely.

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Miles Messervy wrote:
Loeffelholz wrote:

Ultimately, I suppose it all comes down to what's in Craig's mind, which nobody else can know unless and until he tells them. He's not getting any younger, though, and it seems the longer he waits to make an announcement that he's returning, the more likely he'll just move on.

Or EON will move on. As much as they want Craig to return, I can't imagine they'll wait on him indefinitely.

I think at the moment it's a no risk option, as with no script or distributor it probably suits them for DC to still notionally in play. If he decides to do one more fine, he's highly bankable in the role. If the hiatus drags on too long he might be a bit old for it, however even that could work as a last hurrah before a reboot/recast/rethink. If he really is 'done' they will have to recast and they'll get on with that. If he made a definitive thanks but no thanks statement it would look worse.

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Some of us believe that Eon has prepared for the non-Craig contingency, and has a man ready to go  ajb007/bond  ...and I'm sure there's at least a semi-polished draft of a script on their desk. I personally think the distribution thing will take care of itself. Bond (even with a new lead in the role) is one of the better bets in an unsure business.

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Loeffelholz wrote:

Some of us believe that Eon has prepared for the non-Craig contingency, and has a man ready to go  ajb007/bond  ...and I'm sure there's at least a semi-polished draft of a script on their desk. I personally think the distribution thing will take care of itself. Bond (even with a new lead in the role) is one of the better bets in an unsure business.

I was thinking the same thing. Just because we are not aware of a script doesn't mean there isn't a draft being worked on. James Bond films are not a lark or hobby for EON and MGM. For EON, it is their business and for MGM, it's the only thing that keeps that company afloat. Barbara Broccoli and Michael Wilson are not just a couple kids who inherited the family business and ran it into the ground. They have been great stewards of the Bond film legacy and have had enough boldness and foresight to reinvigorate the franchise when needed.
There seems to be an undercurrent amongst some that EON is flying by the seat of their pants with Bond 25. I don't think so. There is too much at stake here. I believe there is a back up plan with another actor on deck if Craig does not return. That being said, I do believe that MGM's negotiations with a new partner have been effected by whether Craig returns or not. My guess is there are different deals on the table that are based upon that outcome. A deal being consumated means it is known whether Craig is returning or there is a new Bond actor. It wouldn't surprise me if an official announcement of the next Bond film and who will play Bond will come in concert with or shortly after that announcement is made. I also have a feeling that it's coming in the next 90 days. ajb007/martini

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HowardB wrote:
Loeffelholz wrote:

Some of us believe that Eon has prepared for the non-Craig contingency, and has a man ready to go  ajb007/bond  ...and I'm sure there's at least a semi-polished draft of a script on their desk. I personally think the distribution thing will take care of itself. Bond (even with a new lead in the role) is one of the better bets in an unsure business.

I was thinking the same thing. Just because we are not aware of a script doesn't mean there isn't a draft being worked on. James Bond films are not a lark or hobby for EON and MGM. For EON, it is their business and for MGM, it's the only thing that keeps that company afloat. Barbara Broccoli and Michael Wilson are not just a couple kids who inherited the family business and ran it into the ground. They have been great stewards of the Bond film legacy and have had enough boldness and foresight to reinvigorate the franchise when needed.
There seems to be an undercurrent amongst some that EON is flying by the seat of their pants with Bond 25. I don't think so. There is too much at stake here. I believe there is a back up plan with another actor on deck if Craig does not return. That being said, I do believe that MGM's negotiations with a new partner have been effected by whether Craig returns or not. My guess is there are different deals on the table that are based upon that outcome. A deal being consumated means it is known whether Craig is returning or there is a new Bond actor. It wouldn't surprise me if an official announcement of the next Bond film and who will play Bond will come in concert with or shortly after that announcement is made. I also have a feeling that it's coming in the next 90 days. ajb007/martini

I hope that you are right. What is driving the 90 days for you?

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While I think it's likely that someone is working on a script, I doubt there is an actor EON has decided on for James Bond just in case Craig doesn't return.  We haven't heard anything about screentests or any active casting,  and such a prosess would be too large for us not to hear about it.  I guess some belive EON just decided Tom Hiddleston is so fantastic they don't need to test anyone else. But as mentioned above,  James Bond is simply too important to them not to cover their bases and Hiddleston is too much in demand to keep a large part of next year open just in case Craig drops Bond.
I'm guessing EON is doing pretty much what we are doing now: keeping their eyes open for possible candidates and discussing them among themselves. At the most they might have talked to a few and asked if they might be interesting if the position opens up and how they see Bond.

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Yes...some of us believe Hiddleston was offered the part last May...if true, they must have thought he was sufficiently fantastic. Whether this turns out to be another John Gavin gambit remains to be seen...but if Eon has someone locked down, it would also explain the lack of news with respect to screentests, etc. Eon would have a production start date scheduled regardless, and Hiddleston (or whomever) would likely be compensated to be available for principal photography when it begins, even if that is still a year from now.

IMHO, Hiddleston is either the next Bond...or the biggest 'nearly was Bond' ever  ajb007/smile It's up to Craig.

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